Jakpro1

So I really wanna increase air intake......what snorkel do I have to buy again. I think it 's the S55 that fits perfect. Anyone that actually has it on their car that can tell me what model snorkel I need and if it's right and left or just one side.

Also, is their any other things I can do to increase air intake.....any mods. I found some sites with carbon fiber intake mods for BMW's, but no Merc.

Thanks for any info.

ekaz

snorkel tube p/n# A 1130942182
K&N filters (p/n# 33-2859)

I just replaced the driver's side.

BoBcanada

do they really help?

Jakpro1

Thanks EKAZ

I guess no aftermarket intake mods huh? (Carbon Fiber etc..)

Bob, I hear it doesn't make a big big difference, but as they say in Brooklyn...couldnt hoit?

Jakpro1

Hey EKAZ...you sure you got the right part..I called local Benz and they say that the part number you gave is the stock snorkel for the E and CLS.

You sure that's right. I asked them for the S55 snokel drivers side and they started busting my chops about what VIN I had etc....as I have said 1 million times....if there was a competition for worst dealer in USA, mine would Three Peat!!

ekaz

I told my dealer I had an S55. If you want, I'll get one for you and ship it. I haven't heard anything about carbon fiber and such. Just mostly wrapping in thermotec (which I still need to do). I'll check the part number later.
As for feeling a difference...I changed it within a week of getting the car, so couldn't really tell you. The stock tube is almost half the diameter of the S55 tube at the same point in the bend.

ima55r2

A1130942182 is the same passenger side intake part number for the s and the e, and now as your dealer says for the cls.

Jakpro1

Thanks so much for the offer EKAZ..might take you up on that...lemme take one more crack at these S O B's.

Sheesh, you think I was asking parts dept for a kidney.

ekaz

You should've heard my dealer when I mentioned Kleemann.....I know the feeling

onesixeight

I had the snorkle mod on for a few months. It was driving alright at the beginning, but after a 1000 mi I noticed that my car on initial throttle tip-in was really jerky. It was like it was gasping for air. Similar to when the car does that stutter when the supercharger engages.

Went back to the stock snorkle and my initial throttle tip-in is a lot smoother now. It seems like the large snorkle isn't a good fit. It fits on, but the square attachement seems to loose enough to where air can leak out.

I say give it a try to cure your curiosity...It's cheap...like $8 bucks. But I didn't notice any performance gains on my butt dyno..

M5KILLR

no performance mod but i should be getting my engine and filter cf covers friday. ill post a pic then.

Jspeed

Hasn't anyone here tried Gruppe M carbon air intake?? I thought this brand would be pretty well known, especially to those who have owned M3s or Ferraris:

http://www.gruppemeurope.com/frc_mercedes.html

Jakpro1

What are your thoughts on sucking air directly from the engine compartment. I have always wondered about just doing that, but wonder what the effect of sucking hotter air would do to hp.....more air flow, but much hotter air.

Any thoughts....

vrus

They make beautiful looking pieces, but, would you spend $5,000 US for an intake that would probably generate at BEST 20hp ?

Jakpro1

Holy crap...5000?!!? Well, back to the ole drawing board.

Renntech has some type of intake mod (different throttle body etc) ....calling them now.

vrus

Jakpro1,

Not a very good idea at all... Sucking hot air into the intake will take all kinds of power away.

The optimum air intake should scoop cold, high-pressure outside air. Studying aerodynamics has shown that the highest pressure air is available near the bottom front of the car (On the E55, picture this as being where our fog lights are).

If we could create a set of air scoops and put them behind the mesh screens next to the fog lights on each side of the car, that would be the best place to collect high velocity cold air.

I've looked at this and even attempted to make something, but, it is just too tight to fit any tubes down there. But, even if it could work, on our cars with the throttle body being at the back of the engine, this wouldn't be a good solution because the length of the pipes would be too long and it would slow down the air travelling through those pipes.

Mercedes put the air scoops in the front grille. This was a better location for our cars because of the location and orientation of our air boxes. It creates a shorter path to the throttle body and therefore keeps the velocity in the tubes higher.

I think for stock and lightly modified cars, the stock airboxes are fine. They will probably become a restriction once you get up in the 650hp range. The best thing is to find a way to improve on what Mercedes has already done. GruppeM has the right idea but the cost is just too high in my opinion. (They have 2 models of it $3,600 US and $5,000US).

Jspeed

Considering that dropping in a K&N filter makes quite an improvement already, imagine what difference it might make with a full system like that. It would be a good complement to aftermarket headers and together give a significant improvement in airflow. By itself maybe the performance increase would be no more than 20BHP, but when done together with other things like pulley and ECU, this figure might be much more. Also when you reach a stage in tuning (like Stage 3) where the next step is likely to cost more than $3600 doing engine work anyway, it might be an option to consider.

vrus

I sent an email to GruppeM to find out exactly what is the deal on the intake system.. Here is the info:

GruppeM Filter Ram Chargers are composed of a custom made intake duct and shaped to meet the specifications of individual cars. They produce an increase of 12 to 18 horse power (depending on the engine conditions).

Please find the following prices and model of the Filter Ram Charger for Mecedes:

FRC Mercedes W210 AMG - E55 = GBP £1,606 + £130.00 delivery charge
FRC Mercedes W211 AMG - E55(2004) = GBP £1,786.00 + 130 delivery charge

I was close about the HP increase.. I guessed 20hp maximum and they said 18hp on the high side. It works out to $3,600US. The $5,000 price tag is not for our car.