W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Well looks like our high horsepower reign is slowly coming to an end.

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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Well looks like our high horsepower reign is slowly coming to an end.

Guess it was silly to think it would last forever.

Just about every car maker will be pumping out a model near 500hp by years end or early next year. Pretty much a done deal the new N/A will be around 500hp...maybe a few hp over and much less torque.

Latest is Buick....new GNX! What's next, Hyundai?

Just wish Benz would have given us the twin turbs earlier....if it ever friggin happens at all.

Gonna suck to go from near "Kings of the Sedan Street" to "just one of the boys"

Course we are driving a Benz so that always helps....but still.

Here is the info on the new Buick....0-60 in 4.2

New GNX
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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That is sick performance for only $38k. If it goes production there will be a lot of American muscle on the street running with us. My headers and pulley go on next week. I better enjoy it while I can and then be ready to upgrade in '07.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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How lame can GM get? Gee, lets take a Holden Monaro and rebadge it as a Pontiac GTO. Now lets take the same POS and badge it as a Buick GNX. Where is their creativity? With the history of the GNX, they should have put a little more effort into it! Bunch of morons over there.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Old May 6, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VelocitE55
How lame can GM get? Gee, lets take a Holden Monaro and rebadge it as a Pontiac GTO. Now lets take the same POS and badge it as a Buick GNX. Where is their creativity? With the history of the GNX, they should have put a little more effort into it! Bunch of morons over there.
i agree w/ you 100%. it looks like a gto w/ buick badging. i still don't think this car will beat an E55--- and definately not a modded E55. that buick will get spanked!!!
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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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I LOVE IT!!! chip those tt's and 550hp in a 3600lb car, SWEET!!! imagine the guy in an m5 getting pulled on by a buick!
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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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I LOVE IT!!! chip those tt's and 550hp in a 3600lb car, SWEET!!! imagine the guy in an m5 getting pulled on by a buick!

..............and just as he starts to pull the M5, the trans and rear diff both grenade at the same time.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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I LOVE IT!!! chip those tt's and 550hp in a 3600lb car, SWEET!!! imagine the guy in an m5 getting pulled on by a buick!

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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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good one. or pull the chip out and take back to dealer.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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good one. or pull the chip out and take back to dealer.
.............or get it towed back to the dealer !
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I hope no one bought their E55 thinking it would always be fastest There's lots of reasons I bought the car, speed certainly being near the top of the list. I have no idea why some people here are so freaked out about what the new M5 can do, or what people say it can do. Who cares! The funniest part is that no one (or very few) will ever drive either car at or near it's limits. So, a magazine tested one .03 faster on a race track. Gee, I gotta sell the car! The M5 will be much faster while i'm sitting in traffic LOL. Back on topic. The Chrysler 300 SRT (or whatever the hell it's called) is also said to do 0-60 in about 4.3-4.5. It's still a Chrysler. And this is still a Buick.
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Speaking of Chrysler cars...I was at the Dallas Auto Show last month and looked at a very amazing car called the ME4-12. Chrysler's 12 cylinder, 4 turbo prototype (not concept). 0-60 in something crazy like 2.9 seconds.

The car looked sweet! Then I heard the Germans killed the project and will not let it move from prototype to the next stage so it can be produced to protect their SLR investment. Don't know how true this is, just something I heard.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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See what the German's rekindled . It took a war between AMG and M works

at BMW to get the American Muscle started again. I love it. I lived thru the

Deloreon Era when I was in high school in the 60's and all I can say is enjoy it

while it lasts. It can dissappear in a flash like it did in 72. Compression ratios

dropped like a rock along with HP. I might have to update and get new C7

900HP Vette roadster when it comes out in 2010 if the HP wars are still going

on then.

Sweet! :p
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Old May 6, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by VelocitE55
How lame can GM get? Gee, lets take a Holden Monaro and rebadge it as a Pontiac GTO. Now lets take the same POS and badge it as a Buick GNX. Where is their creativity? With the history of the GNX, they should have put a little more effort into it! Bunch of morons over there.
and actually its a bunch of moron consumers! that buy that american crap!
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Old May 6, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Oh Man, You guys have just brought me back to the 1980's when I owned a Buick GN and spent all my Friday Nights at the Drag strip. You can say all you want. Those were fast cars of their time and cheap. My GN brand new was just 17K out the door. The GNX was around 30K(limited only 500 built). My GN with just a few mods ran low 12's to high 11's. On the juice it ran an 11 flat. That was it's best ever time. Those weren't bad times back in the mid 80's. If GM decides to make a new twin turbo GNX it should be an all out killer with just a few mods. Personally I think it's a long shot from what I heard this week GM my can Buick since the brand is doing so poorly.

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I hope no one bought their E55 thinking it would always be fastest There's lots of reasons I bought the car, speed certainly being near the top of the list. I have no idea why some people here are so freaked out about what the new M5 can do, or what people say it can do. Who cares! The funniest part is that no one (or very few) will ever drive either car at or near it's limits. So, a magazine tested one .03 faster on a race track. Gee, I gotta sell the car! The M5 will be much faster while i'm sitting in traffic LOL. Back on topic. The Chrysler 300 SRT (or whatever the hell it's called) is also said to do 0-60 in about 4.3-4.5. It's still a Chrysler. And this is still a Buick.
Chris,

Great perspective & I couldn't agree more.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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No no....certainly not the fastest....just higher hp.

That is what I really liked about owning a 55. Benz is usually on the forefront of automotive trends and technology and having a car with 500hp when almost NONE of the others did was something special.

Imagine if Rolex all the sudden brought the price down to under 500bucks.....soon everyone would be wearing one and special feeling of pulling up your sleeve in public would not be the same.

In 12 months, there will be over a dozen cheap cars out there pushing the 500hp envelope and as I said on my thread title.....our high hp near solo reign will be over.

I still hold out hopes of a twin turb 600hp model that can be chipped and Kleemann/EVO'd to 650 to 700, but til then, just have to hope.
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Speaking of Chrysler cars...I was at the Dallas Auto Show last month and looked at a very amazing car called the ME4-12. Chrysler's 12 cylinder, 4 turbo prototype (not concept). 0-60 in something crazy like 2.9 seconds.

The car looked sweet! Then I heard the Germans killed the project and will not let it move from prototype to the next stage so it can be produced to protect their SLR investment. Don't know how true this is, just something I heard.
unfortunately its dead!
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Old May 6, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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The ME4-12 reminds me of the Cadillac Cien... I loved that car. Wish they would of produced it, I would of been the 1st customer.
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I hope no one bought their E55 thinking it would always be fastest There's lots of reasons I bought the car, speed certainly being near the top of the list. I have no idea why some people here are so freaked out about what the new M5 can do, or what people say it can do. Who cares! The funniest part is that no one (or very few) will ever drive either car at or near it's limits. So, a magazine tested one .03 faster on a race track. Gee, I gotta sell the car! The M5 will be much faster while i'm sitting in traffic LOL. Back on topic. The Chrysler 300 SRT (or whatever the hell it's called) is also said to do 0-60 in about 4.3-4.5. It's still a Chrysler. And this is still a Buick.

I think it is sad simply seeing the E55 is put up in comparsion against American muscle cars. Although I am not a fan of the AMG's approach (I am more a M guy) of performance, I insist that Germen still make the best cars in the world.
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