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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Okay got the Green Filters.....so just pop um in??

Also got the recharge kit....didn't know if I needed to pre oil prior to install or something.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Also got the recharge kit....didn't know if I needed to pre oil prior to install or something.

Thanks for the info.
The package will usually say if the filter was pre-oiled.. If it WAS:

If you can visibly see the oil on the filters and they are oily to the touch, I would leave them unwrapped on a table overnight to let them air dry a bit before you put them in.

If it WASN'T:

Add a uniform amount of oil to each line in the filter.. Just enough that it soaks evenly. Don't over oil it!
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Wow, so basically these are like cotton K&N's? No offense to either side that is.....just thought these were super thin cotton filters without oil....weird.

Interested to see if I feel any difference.....I would imagine not as K&N are pretty free flowing (to the motors detriment some say) .....gonna try to dyno and see soon.....if I could just get the friggin time.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Wow, so basically these are like cotton K&N's? No offense to either side that is.....just thought these were super thin cotton filters without oil....weird.

Interested to see if I feel any difference.....I would imagine not as K&N are pretty free flowing (to the motors detriment some say) .....gonna try to dyno and see soon.....if I could just get the friggin time.
Yikes.. I better retract my comment above.. I am ASSUMING these are the same as K&N's but just more porous to allow more air through.

I also ASSUMED they were basically the same material and required the same care. I've personally not used them, but that is what I thought they were.

Better let someone with first hand experience chime in here...

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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I would be careful running these filters. Being that our cars are supercharged, the oil from the filter can actually come off the filter and get lodged on the Mass Air Flow sensor. If this happens, the MAF will go bad, which is not a good thing. The MAF is the primary load calculation for fueling and transmission shift points. All it takes is a MAF that has drifted out of calibration and a high-speed run to toast your engine.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
I would be careful running these filters. Being that our cars are supercharged, the oil from the filter can actually come off the filter and get lodged on the Mass Air Flow sensor. If this happens, the MAF will go bad, which is not a good thing. The MAF is the primary load calculation for fueling and transmission shift points. All it takes is a MAF that has drifted out of calibration and a high-speed run to toast your engine.
2003 and up E55's are speed density they don't have a MAF.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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No biggee V...you are mod MASTER.

Thanks for the input.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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2003 and up E55's are speed density they don't have a MAF.
Lucky for you... I guess I'm the only one that has to worry about that problem.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Also got the recharge kit....didn't know if I needed to pre oil prior to install or something.

Thanks for the info.
The filters do not need to be oiled unelss your clean them which should be at about 50k miles.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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How do these filters compare to K&N's?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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K&N are much much more porous, therefore, allowing more air to pass through them, as a result more dirt and dust passes through them.

The Green filters are made with a synthetic cotton fiber that filter just as well as stock filter, yet allow the air to flow more freely than a K&n filter. I should be getting mine sometime this week as well. I have been running stock filters this whole time and just changed them a few months back. I cant wait to see what the Green filters do.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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I felt more of a response when I changed to green filters. You do not need to oil them, they come pre-oiled. They have ALOT less oil than K&N's which is why you can barely even tell they are oiled.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Someone do me a favour and post a pic of what these things look like. 1 shot which shows the whole filter and 1 shot which is a close up of the filter material as close as you can get it.

Please and thanks.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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vrus, I would take a pic of it but its in my car and I dont even have a camera with me. Looks exactly like K&N but less oil and of course, GREEN
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Here V...bout as close as I can get with this friggin 500$ piece of junk digital....grrrrrr.

My kids kodak gets closer.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Here V...bout as close as I can get with this friggin 500$ piece of junk digital....grrrrrr.

My kids kodak gets closer.
Thanks for the pic!

Now, who was saying that the K&N was much more porous??? NO WAY!

I can see right through the filter and can make out the sidewalk in the first pic. You can't see through a K&N. Hell, I can't see through my BMC race filters either.

I think these green ones will give you more flow, but they are DEFINITELY more porous than a K&N filter. You can't see through the K&N when you hold it up to the light.

There is no way this thing will filter any better than a K&N. If anything I think it will make MORE POWER than the K&N BUT IT WILL FILTER LESS.

That's my $0.02....
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Thats where you're wrong vrus, they have magical GREEN powers and they can filter better and flow better than K&N
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looks like who ever makes the K&N's make those too?
I just inspected my K&N's and found the wire mesh comming apart so i had to pull them and put the stockers back in. everyone check your K&N's extremely close, I could barely see the little wire pieces comming off.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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looks like who ever makes the K&N's make those too?
I just inspected my K&N's and found the wire mesh comming apart so i had to pull them and put the stockers back in. everyone check your K&N's extremely close, I could barely see the little wire pieces comming off.
The QC on K&N's has apparently gone to hell in a basket. I'm a long-time user with numerous cars - never have had any probs until the E55 filters. I inspected mine carefully upon receipt and found a number of loose wire particles, which I removed piece by piece. I checked them again after a couple thousand miles and everything appeared to be okay.

I'm getting paranoid now - go back to stockers or switch to the green filters? I've never heard any negative feedback about the green filters performance. Any first-hand user input out there?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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thank god, i thought it was something i did w/ them that made them come apart! I'm sure glad i filled out the warranty paper work (didn't do it) $60 bucks down the drain!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Vrus, the Green's are not more porous than the K&N. What you are seeing is the sun reflecting off the filters cause of the slight oil. I just got mine today and I can assure you there are no holes in the cotton material. I will be installing them tonight, so I will let you all know how they feel on a stock E55.
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Originally Posted by BMWEATR
thank god, i thought it was something i did w/ them that made them come apart! I'm sure glad i filled out the warranty paper work (didn't do it) $60 bucks down the drain!
This is beginning to worry me guys!
I've used K&N for 12 years and never had any problems! My MBZ dealer installed these filters in the E55 and I told them to check carefully for any loose metal bits, but did they?
I just ordered the Green Filters from Neal, just in case! Fear is great for new business... remember the Y2K ?

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Here are a few pictures i took before for anyone wanting to see what the Green Filters look like.

I took one up to the light with a flash, yes u can see threw it a bit, but thats is simply because they are a thin cotten. Just like if you hold a cotten t-shirt up to a light you see threw it. Thats the oils job to keep small particals out.

I also took a picture of the backside of the box showing it states the filters are pre-oiled.





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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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Maybe I'm a little suspicious but they sure do look like green K and N's The construction is identical. I think I'm from Missouri on this one.
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Blitz filters?

What's up guys!

Any one here that have heard or used the Blitz air filters for the 2002 C32 AMG. Which one is better K & N, Green filters or Blitz? And how much are the green filters for 02 C32 AMG?

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