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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Another true VIDEO M5 test versus P Turbo,997s.

http://media.putfile.com/997CS-vs-M5
This video is from about 60km/h to 220km/h, M5 start at 1st gear.

http://media.putfile.com/996TT-vs-M5
This video is from about 60km/h to 210km/h.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...layable%3Atrue

We both start at 1st gear, Im in the M5, it spin at 1st gear and ESP it on until 2nd gear. You can see the 997 jump ahead for 2 cars lenght. Then catch the 997 at about 200km/h and walk away then. The M5 top at 264km/h



http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...layable%3Atrue

forgot to turn on P500 mode at this video. You can see big different in P400 and P500.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=37856

intresting discussion too.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
http://media.putfile.com/997CS-vs-M5
This video is from about 60km/h to 220km/h, M5 start at 1st gear.

http://media.putfile.com/996TT-vs-M5
This video is from about 60km/h to 210km/h.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...layable%3Atrue

We both start at 1st gear, Im in the M5, it spin at 1st gear and ESP it on until 2nd gear. You can see the 997 jump ahead for 2 cars lenght. Then catch the 997 at about 200km/h and walk away then. The M5 top at 264km/h



http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...layable%3Atrue

forgot to turn on P500 mode at this video. You can see big different in P400 and P500.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=37856

intresting discussion too.
In two days we will have some close up daytime video of the E60 M5 running against 996TT, E55 (stock), C6 Z06, CL600, SL65 and many more.....
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
In two days we will have some close up daytime video of the E60 M5 running against 996TT, E55 (stock), C6 Z06, CL600, SL65 and many more.....
Cant wait!
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Nice, be sure take really really good video.

Gustav is trying to come up with every single excuse that he could to defend his beloved M5. I still think the tester M5 that BMW gave him has been tweaked. You can see in the vids, the C2S is dead even with the M5. I don't think it really matters how you break in your car. If you claim your car to have 500bhp, you should have walked all over the C2S that has 355bhp and comparable torque....... I think Gustav is still full of *****...... Some M5 owners have too large an ego to accept the fact their car is not the fastest car in the world......
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Where are you shooting this video? I am in the DC area and would love to watch.

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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From what I saw the 996 walked away from the M like it was a fat chick with acne and bad breath.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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comon guys dont hate on the m5 it handles much better than the e class. these cars are meant for different situations, trust me ive had a e 55 for 2 years and a m5 for 1 week. if someone with a cam in la want to do some runs lmk.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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From what I saw the 996 walked away from the M like it was a fat chick with acne and bad breath.
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Originally Posted by yayoE55amg
comon guys dont hate on the m5 it handles much better than the e class. these cars are meant for different situations, trust me ive had a e 55 for 2 years and a m5 for 1 week. if someone with a cam in la want to do some runs lmk.
Did you read the posts? Did anyone state that they hate the M5?

No.... so please stop flaming. No one's talking about the handling department here. We know that in twisties the M5 will shine. However, we're not questioning that.

People are just questioning whether the video posted by Gustav is valid or not. No one so far has been able to replicate the results and Gustav always dismisses it as inapprorpiate break-in, poor shifting, etc. This just doesn't cut it for me.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev04C320
Did you read the posts? Did anyone state that they hate the M5?

No.... so please stop flaming. No one's talking about the handling department here. We know that in twisties the M5 will shine. However, we're not questioning that.

People are just questioning whether the video posted by Gustav is valid or not. No one so far has been able to replicate the results and Gustav always dismisses it as inapprorpiate break-in, poor shifting, etc. This just doesn't cut it for me.
heres one that had nothing to do with gustav and was a production m5
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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downloaded the file but it wouldn't open, says I don't have the right codec
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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downloaded the file but it wouldn't open, says I don't have the right codec
I had the same problem,it took me a while and found a program called vlc media player that plays them
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Okay, so we just saw a 997TT pretty much walk the M5.

Now, here is Super Gus video of the M5 versus a X50 WITH Techart pushing 510 hp....it absolutely can not pull an inch (well perhaps it pulls a foot) on the M5.

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We are talking about a car that pulls high 11's all day long stock (dragtimes).....THIS one is Techart at 510 and the Gustav M5 stays even.

Sorry, that is pretty much Check and Mate......the Gus vids are either staged or he got a juiced car for publicity.

I am NOT hating the M5 or flaming, but when you throw up staged vids on the net, or post fake times on dragtimes.com, you have to be called out.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Okay, so we just saw a 997TT pretty much walk the M5.

Now, here is Super Gus video of the M5 versus a X50 WITH Techart pushing 510 hp....it absolutely can not pull an inch (well perhaps it pulls a foot) on the M5.

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We are talking about a car that pulls high 11's all day long stock (dragtimes).....THIS one is Techart at 510 and the Gustav M5 stays even.

Sorry, that is pretty much Check and Mate......the Gus vids are either staged or he got a juiced car for publicity.

I am NOT hating the M5 or flaming, but when you throw up staged vids on the net, or post fake times on dragtimes.com, you have to be called out.
My 996 would absolutely destroy that M5 or the M6, I don't care if it's juiced or not. The more I read about Gustav, the more I realize he's full of *****
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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I must say...I drive the M5 daily, I drove my buddy's 996TT X50 Tiptronic mind you (I'll explain why Tip and no manual) and the X50 is noticeably Stronger. I know it's not a good comparison using my butt dyno but man, it is what it is. I just can't see a M5 pulling a 996TT, an 997CS, sure, but a TT I just can't see it.

Despite what I run on the track on Friday it won't change my mind.

Now, my buddy has a Tip because he's losing strength in his legs, thus the reason he got a Gallardo E-Gear and SLR instead of the CGT. This guy has too many cars, ala RenntechV12 I think their stables are about the same. He has a 996TT X50, CLS55, Gallardo, SLR, and Cherokee for the snow (he lives in Chicago). My hats off to both my buddy and RenntechV12 for the FINE stable of whips.

I may be buying the 996TT X50 (tip ) off my buddy at a "steal".
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Okay, so we just saw a 997TT pretty much walk the M5.

Now, here is Super Gus video of the M5 versus a X50 WITH Techart pushing 510 hp....it absolutely can not pull an inch (well perhaps it pulls a foot) on the M5.

Video

We are talking about a car that pulls high 11's all day long stock (dragtimes).....THIS one is Techart at 510 and the Gustav M5 stays even.

Sorry, that is pretty much Check and Mate......the Gus vids are either staged or he got a juiced car for publicity.

I am NOT hating the M5 or flaming, but when you throw up staged vids on the net, or post fake times on dragtimes.com, you have to be called out.

No biggie, but the 997TT is not out until next summer. Will be a beast and should run neck and neck with the new F430.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mez456
Where are you shooting this video? I am in the DC area and would love to watch.

Mez

Will be out at Capitol Raceway in Crofton. MD. You shoud come out and run your C55, it will be a blast and you will have a better feel for the car.

Cost should be not more then $100 pp since we are rented the track for the day.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev04C320
Nice, be sure take really really good video.

Gustav is trying to come up with every single excuse that he could to defend his beloved M5. I still think the tester M5 that BMW gave him has been tweaked. You can see in the vids, the C2S is dead even with the M5. I don't think it really matters how you break in your car. If you claim your car to have 500bhp, you should have walked all over the C2S that has 355bhp and comparable torque....... I think Gustav is still full of *****...... Some M5 owners have too large an ego to accept the fact their car is not the fastest car in the world......

Kev - you may have the videos confused. In the first video with the C2S, it looked like the M5 beat it pretty soundly. Just being fair.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Will be out at Capitol Raceway in Crofton. MD. You shoud come out and run your C55, it will be a blast and you will have a better feel for the car.

Cost should be not more then $100 pp since we are rented the track for the day.
I almost bought a 997S today and only reason I didn't was because I didn't want to drive it back fom Chicago.

Spero, no worries I arrive tomorrow in Dulles at 9AMish. I'll be there tomorrow.

My trip here was unplanned, something came up and I had to take off.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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I almost bought a 997S today and only reason I didn't was because I didn't want to drive it back fom Chicago.

Spero, no worries I arrive tomorrow in Dulles at 9AMish. I'll be there tomorrow.

My trip here was unplanned, something came up and I had to take off.

Safe trip back from the windy city. As you know, John has the seal grey 997S. Just wait for the 997TT next summer and enjoy the M5 until then
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Kev - you may have the videos confused. In the first video with the C2S, it looked like the M5 beat it pretty soundly. Just being fair.
Not so sure about that, as fas as I can see, the C2S hung in there with the M5 until the last couple seconds of the vid.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by yayoE55amg
comon guys dont hate on the m5 it handles much better than the e class. these cars are meant for different situations, trust me ive had a e 55 for 2 years and a m5 for 1 week. if someone with a cam in la want to do some runs lmk.
Sorry a little off-topic, but I also live in the Santa Clarita area and I have seen an M5 here twice but it was the same car. What color is your M5? Didnt know there was a M5 owner in Santa Clarita on these boards. Hope I see you around...

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Sorry a little off-topic, but I also live in the Santa Clarita area and I have seen an M5 here twice but it was the same car. What color is your M5? Didnt know there was a M5 owner in Santa Clarita on these boards. Hope I see you around...

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That makes 3 of us.... we should do some M5 vs E55 runs
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The one against 996TT, the M5 seems to start with kind of low rpm?
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After 2000 miles service the M5 is not even broken in...BMW does not advice to Full RPM the car until 5000 km....

I think we need to compare equal millaged cars or give M5 some more time to be broken inn properly...

I'd say after 10.000 miles it would run faster...and the it would fair to compare...

With M5... when you use launch control, you need to switch off Traction control, but this guy does not...

A lot depends on the driver!!!

Cant wait to see E55 vs M5...I hope E55 will be new or as low millaged as M5...So there would be not excuses...

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