[VIDEO] (STOCK) SL55 AMG vs. (STOCK) M5
Sorry to play devils advocate all the time, but I think it's good to have plenty of factual evidence in anything (which is why I also mention that the M5 and 55s are like apples and oranges
)I'm not prepared to reveal how I know he's the same guy, but he's the same guy.
Look to the post up there, that says sweetie! (nice wording
)and you will see the fake time slip.
Second,
do you even have a single clue what video I am talking about and what lie I am talking about?
I think you have no clue, as clueless you are don't jump the gun.
I am talking about a video where mr m5 rocks gustav posted on rs6.com forum, and I have single handedly caught him lying. And as of up to this date he still does not accept that he lied, he just tries to wash off slide away silently and tries to be funny as well. Well I would have had some respect after I caught him lying and proved it and he came and said "well yes I lied, and now i am busted" and as an expected behavior he did not do that.
As I have single handedly caught him lying, and proved it I will not believe a single video he posts, or a single video that was posted by someone else but he defends.
End of story.
BTW I love the new M5, and I still am considering ordering one, just waiting a tad more to see if it will have the same kind of problems that the m3 had in its initial launch. But I do not think it is the king of the road as many m5 lovers try to prove to be.
Last edited by zumbalak; Dec 2, 2005 at 10:22 PM.
You basically implied that the people here who claimed that an M5 enthusiast had posted a p-chopped timeslip were full of it. So fine...but if you start off on the wrong foot, don't be surprised if you get a frosty reception.
Sorry to play devils advocate all the time, but I think it's good to have plenty of factual evidence in anything (which is why I also mention that the M5 and 55s are like apples and oranges
)I'm sorry if I came off as accusatory, but you guys seem real quick to jump the gun and assume the worst, and abuse the living daylights out of anyone else who disagrees.
Zumbalak, sorry I didn't know you were referring to a different video, perhaps if I'd been here longer I might have realised that, but I've only been reading this site for a matter of hours, so could you perhaps cut me some slack there?
And yes, I'm dissapointed that Gustav would close that thread on the M5 board - after reading it again, it wasn't turning into a sludge fest, nor a massive argument.
My apologies to all that were offended by my posts, in no way did I mean to offend anyone, merely stating my opinions as I could see things at the time, and trying to ascertain facts for myself. Not all of us were born with an uncanny ability to put 2 and 2 together before being told what they were. But this place is somewhere where I doubt I'll be welcome again, despite the fact that I never bashed people, or cars, but merely wanted facts.
And I won't be back.
So I hope you have a lovely day beating up on eachother instead.
I'm sorry if I came off as accusatory, but you guys seem real quick to jump the gun and assume the worst, and abuse the living daylights out of anyone else who disagrees.
Zumbalak, sorry I didn't know you were referring to a different video, perhaps if I'd been here longer I might have realised that, but I've only been reading this site for a matter of hours, so could you perhaps cut me some slack there?
And yes, I'm dissapointed that Gustav would close that thread on the M5 board - after reading it again, it wasn't turning into a sludge fest, nor a massive argument.
My apologies to all that were offended by my posts, in no way did I mean to offend anyone, merely stating my opinions as I could see things at the time, and trying to ascertain facts for myself. Not all of us were born with an uncanny ability to put 2 and 2 together before being told what they were. But this place is somewhere where I doubt I'll be welcome again, despite the fact that I never bashed people, or cars, but merely wanted facts.
And I won't be back.
So I hope you have a lovely day beating up on eachother instead.Having spent over 4 hours at the track today I can tell you that the new M5 has no chance in beating a stock E55 in the 1/4 mile PERIOD! Having said that, the M5 which is owned by a good buddy of mine is a AWESOME car that is designed for other things.
M5 RUS, true you win some, you lose some, but this video is just hideous. I can't even believe some folks can actually believe this is "an honest effort" video.
I know that the LC outside the US is 4000RPM, let me tell you that if that M5 launched at 4K RPM it would not have taken off like it did as it would have sat there burning rubber.
I swear most of these folks talking about this and that, and have never actually "really" driven either cars.
KK is a big fan of the M5, even he will tell you the M5 will not win a standing start race against any 55K cars.
Can we PLEASE stop this madness and talk about cars and how we can improve them. I ran 12.5 today in my M5, I'm not saying that all M5's are gonna run 12.5 best, but **** C&D and I got the same exact times...hmmmmm
I'm not even remotely saying that the E55 is better because it runs a better 1/4 mile, Chris (CTE430) said it best today after having driven my car today "you can't even compare the two cars". But I was surprised that he said the interior looked pretty good - Chris buddy, c'mon now, minus the dash where the full leather is and the I-Drive screen, everything below looks like crap
M5 RUS, true you win some, you lose some, but this video is just hideous. I can't even believe some folks can actually believe this is "an honest effort" video.
I know that the LC outside the US is 4000RPM, let me tell you that if that M5 launched at 4K RPM it would not have taken off like it did as it would have sat there burning rubber.
I swear most of these folks talking about this and that, and have never actually "really" driven either cars.
KK is a big fan of the M5, even he will tell you the M5 will not win a standing start race against any 55K cars.
Can we PLEASE stop this madness and talk about cars and how we can improve them. I ran 12.5 today in my M5, I'm not saying that all M5's are gonna run 12.5 best, but **** C&D and I got the same exact times...hmmmmm
I'm not even remotely saying that the E55 is better because it runs a better 1/4 mile, Chris (CTE430) said it best today after having driven my car today "you can't even compare the two cars". But I was surprised that he said the interior looked pretty good - Chris buddy, c'mon now, minus the dash where the full leather is and the I-Drive screen, everything below looks like crap

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More times than not the e55 may win but saying it has no chance is a big call especially since most euro tests say otherwise.
More times than not the e55 may win but saying it has no chance is a big call especially since most euro tests say otherwise.I have seen over 10 E55's (stock) at our 1/4 track days over the past year that have run better then 12.6. Most of them run better then 12.4
Based on what I saw yesterday from the new M5 (I drove it several times) and from its owner, I would say that "No Chance" is a fair assessment. The M5 is a wonderful car but its strength is not 0-60 or 1/4 mile. The car handles like a Porsche (have owned both a Boxster S an 911 TT).
More times than not the e55 may win but saying it has no chance is a big call especially since most euro tests say otherwise.
More times than not the e55 may win but saying it has no chance is a big call especially since most euro tests say otherwise.Because I've seen five tests now: four from overseas, one from here. And all have been in the mid to high 12's.
I don't understand what it is about the M5 that makes people turn into blind sheep believing it is the ultimate car on the face of the planet.
Because I've seen five tests now: four from overseas, one from here. And all have been in the mid to high 12's.
But if the car can spin its 285 wide wheels from a standstill it must be making decent rwtq from the extra revs. The e55 can easily spin its wheels so to properly launch it must get the most traction. If both are traction limited from the launch then i would expect the M5 to also post low 12s at some stage in the next couple of years especially with a 6sp, but maybe not as frequently.
Based on what I saw yesterday from the new M5 (I drove it several times) and from its owner, I would say that "No Chance" is a fair assessment. The M5 is a wonderful car but its strength is not 0-60 or 1/4 mile. The car handles like a Porsche (have owned both a Boxster S an 911 TT).
Because what I was responding to was this:
More times than not the e55 may win but saying it has no chance is a big call especially since most euro tests say otherwise.But if the car can spin its 285 wide wheels from a standstill it must be making decent rwtq from the extra revs. The e55 can easily spin its wheels so to properly launch it must get the most traction. If both are traction limited from the launch then i would expect the M5 to also post low 12s at some stage in the next couple of years especially with a 6sp, but maybe not as frequently.
But on the other hand, if the M5's with launch control at 4,000 rpm can't beat a 12.5 (per the Euro tests I've seen), then we may not even see many running 12.5 with the lower US launch control....Car & Driver failed to note in their latest test whether the vehicle they ran was equipped with Euro or US LC; in fact, they didn't discuss LC at all in the article.
Because what I was responding to was this:
What I was asking is, what Euro tests have you seen wherein the M5 was tested faster in the 1/4?? I've only seen four, and none were in E55-beating territory....only place where the M turns consistently better numbers is well into triple digit territory, from around 110-120 mph and up.
Well, the M3s did seem to get better times w/manuals, so you may well be right. At least BMW provides a limited slip differential, unlike Mercedes...grrr...but I digress...
But on the other hand, if the M5's with launch control at 4,000 rpm can't beat a 12.5 (per the Euro tests I've seen), then we may not even see many running 12.5 with the lower US launch control....Car & Driver failed to note in their latest test whether the vehicle they ran was equipped with Euro or US LC; in fact, they didn't discuss LC at all in the article.

Yes the beauty of a manual is you have complete control of the rpms and clutch slippage which is handy potentially allowing you to launch fractionally better.
Maybe someone will figure out how to modify the US LC but i guess it won't be considered stock anymore.
Last edited by reggid; Dec 4, 2005 at 03:52 AM.
That is the most pathetic video i have ever seen, anyone can see BS written all over it.
Yes the beauty of a manual is you have complete control of the rpms and clutch slippage which is handy potentially allowing you to launch fractionally better.
Maybe someone will figure out how to modify the US LC but i guess it won't be considered stock anymore.
We did have a young man out the track the other day who had never been to the strip in his life and had no clue what to do. He went up did a burn out and we had to give him play by play what the lights are and how far to go and he did a 12.6 something.
Impro, the M5 with LC at 4K RPM at the track, I really believe will be in the low 12s based on the trap speeds I was getting along with Wayne and Spero.
Guys, this is getting pretty old. I have a M5 and have run at the track and if anyone wants info or input you can PM me. I'm not going to participate in anymore of these M5 vs. E55, SL55 - which is faster - 1/4 times BS.
Have fun everyone and stay safe...
Spero man I REALLY REALLY REALLY like the 997. Not sure which one it is but I saw one at the mall with what appeared to be front ground effects, but it looked like factory.
Impro, the M5 with LC at 4K RPM at the track, I really believe will be in the low 12s based on the trap speeds I was getting along with Wayne and Spero.
Guys, this is getting pretty old. I have a M5 and have run at the track and if anyone wants info or input you can PM me. I'm not going to participate in anymore of these M5 vs. E55, SL55 - which is faster - 1/4 times BS.
Have fun everyone and stay safe...
Spero man I REALLY REALLY REALLY like the 997. Not sure which one it is but I saw one at the mall with what appeared to be front ground effects, but it looked like factory.
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