W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by M5_914
the black m5 doesnt have the whole kit he only has the front lip and the rims
while the blue 1 has the whole widebody kit , the pic was taken in dubai motorshow

Doesn't look like the same front, the blue one isn't flared at the bottom. The black one is kinda cool, the blue is about as Rice as you can make a bimmer.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M5_914
i never said i can take an e55 in a quarter mile
all i said is that ive raced an e55 and i after gear 2 he was behind me, so don't put words in my mouth.
the e55 is one very fast car and iam not trying to disrespect the car but i just wanted to say my reslut after racing the e55
thats it
oh okay, you say you were ahead by the end of 2nd, but you're not saying you'd win in the 1/4?!? he was going to comback from 60 to 120 and pass you, is that how you think the E55's are beating the M5's?

Yeah, that makes sense......
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
Doesn't look like the same front, the blue one isn't flared at the bottom. The black one is kinda cool, the blue is about as Rice as you can make a bimmer.
hamman has 2 diffrent bodykits for the m5
the blue one is called hamman widebody
while the black is the normal hamman body kit for the m5
the blue 1 really sucks though
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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i dont really undertsand this part
he was going to comback from 60 to 120 and pass you, is that how you think the E55's are beating the
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by M5_914
i never said i can take an e55 in a quarter mile
all i said is that ive raced an e55 and i after gear 2 he was behind me, so don't put words in my mouth.
the e55 is one very fast car and iam not trying to disrespect the car but i just wanted to say my reslut after racing the e55
thats it
Maybe you did beat an E55. The cars vary in terms of speed. I spoke with a Renntech tuner today and he told me that the E55's vary greatly in terms of horsepower, so they don't like quoting how much horsepower a chip and pulley will give you, but instead will quote how much horsepower you will have after the chip and pulley. Maybe the one you raced was barely putting out 469hp, whereas I think others might be pushing closer to 500hp.
BTW, congrats on your new car.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
Maybe you did beat an E55. The cars vary in terms of speed. I spoke with a Renntech tuner today and he told me that the E55's vary greatly in terms of horsepower, so they don't like quoting how much horsepower a chip and pulley will give you, but instead will quote how much horsepower you will have after the chip and pulley. Maybe the one you raced was barely putting out 469hp, whereas I think others might be pushing closer to 500hp.
BTW, congrats on your new car.
yah thats what i thought maybe the car didnt produce its full power anyways
they are both fast cars!!
thank you
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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He was being sarcastic.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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He was being sarcastic.
lol he was
i read posts here and many people complaing that the e55 didnt give them complete power sometimes
i remember a thread saying my e55 is powerless again
so i really dont know
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
....the blue is about as Rice as you can make a bimmer.
Or What!
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by M5_914
lol he was
i read posts here and many people complaing that the e55 didnt give them complete power sometimes
i remember a thread saying my e55 is powerless again
so i really dont know
The only time E55's are powerless is when they get too hot because the stock I/C pumps aren't that good. Seriously, you can't remeber whether or not the race started from a dead stop or you were rolling. Hmm!!
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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heh... you can't remember if you raced from a complete stop or from a roll??

no credibiltiy here....

Originally Posted by M5_914
i can't really remember but its either from a complete stop or rolling from 10 km/h
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
The only time E55's are powerless is when they get too hot because the stock I/C pumps aren't that good. Seriously, you can't remeber whether or not the race started from a dead stop or you were rolling. Hmm!!
it was long time ago
and i think it was rolling from 10 km/h
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by M5_914
it was long time ago
and i think it was rolling from 10 km/h
Dude! Please quit while you are ahead. How could it been a long time ago when the E60 hasn't been out that long.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Hey can we please change this thread to the ugly looking car thread = M5 :p
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Here we go again!
Same thing i was thinkin...LOL

I really like those Hamann wheels on the black and blue M5's...real nice.

On the other hand the widebody on the IB M5 reminds me of the CLK DTM...

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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The guy with the posted M5 1/4 mile time has NEVER dragged before. This was his first visit to a drag strip and admitted that he had tons of problems with wheel spin. He also said for the majority of the night he had his tire pressure set at 40psi until someone finally rold him he would get better times if he lowered his tire pressure. He lowered it to 29psi and voila, he got a sub 13 sec time. I think a seasoned driver can easily do mid 12s all day long
Maybe, if he remembers to push all of the right buttons, have the SMG in the right mode, get a perfect launch despite no launch control....otoh, here's a forum member's report of his first time at the track in his new E55:

Originally Posted by slamar1
Good morning Gentlemen! I purchased my E55 about 6 weeks ago and I absolutely love this car. I have owned a few sports cars, and a few lux sedans. By far this is the best car I have owned.

I took the car to the track last night. 1st past bone stock...

12.3
114 mph
RT- .553
60ft - 1.9

Simply amazing... especially for "the Strip" here in Las Vegas. The track here in Vegas does not really allow good track numbers. What's even funnier is that is was pretty cold last night, so the wife stayed in the car with me to stay warm during the run.

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Maybe, if he remembers to push all of the right buttons, have the SMG in the right mode, get a perfect launch despite no launch control....otoh, here's a forum member's report of his first time at the track in his new E55:
In all fairness, it looks like Slamar has drag raced before, just never with his E55. The guy with the M5 never saw a strip.

Nevertheless, the M5 on US soil is not going to be a consistent low 12-second (and I mean 12.1 to 12.3) car. Just not going to happen. Regardless of the car's settings. There have been enough guys at the track in their M5's to know that it is not a low 12 second car. Maybe in the spring, guys will pull the "average" great run down to 12.5. We'll see.

BMW made a very fast, agile car that excels on the highway and the twisties. But its motor and tranny were not made for standing start acceleration runs. Still 12.5 to 12.8 for a 4,000 lbs car isn't too shabby. If the E wasn't tripping the lights in 12.0 and 12.1, we'd be really amazed at a 12.5.

I hope we can get a track rental going at e-town or Atco this spring with a bunch of M5's and E55's. Would be nice to hang out and see how drivers get the most out of the M5.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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I'm probably going to be getting rid of my M5 over the next two weeks. Not because I don't like it, I love the car, but the 750i just serves a better purpose for me and my 2 kids and I don't really get to enjoy the M5's potential where I live and I don't want to risk going to jail because I was flying around doing 120MPH.

The M5 doesn't require "all of the right buttons, have the SMG in the right mode", you can program the M Mode button. Quite frankly, it's faster than pushing the S button on the E55 since you have to reach down for the E, but that's besides the point.

Having owned both cars and raced the E55 off the line, for the 1000th time, the M5 just will not beat the E55 off the line, the torque disadvantage of the M is just too much to overcome. From a roll, the M5 is the clear winner, especially from a 60MPH roll it really starts to distance from the E (to my surprise). As for Chip and Pulley E55 (I'm basing this on my E55's time vs stock E55 at the strip), I think above 120 the M5 still would win, but a K2 I don't know, that should be interesting if someone wanted to risk going to jail I guess. As for handling, no brainer there but I've read somewhere that AMG is going to "up the ante" on either the E or CLS or both in that department. The 7 Speed 6.3 should be a BLAST to drive and should make things more interesting.

The M5's 60 Foot time, best I could get was 2.07 I believe, that was with the wack *** US LC. If the M5 could get into 1.8 60 foot time, then I believe the car can achieve really low 12's, but reality is that it probably can't achive 1.8 the way the car is today.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
The M5 doesn't require "all of the right buttons, have the SMG in the right mode", you can program the M Mode button. Quite frankly, it's faster than pushing the S button on the E55 since you have to reach down for the E, but that's besides the point.
Well, I was basing my comments on the Lambo-vs-M5 videos that were posted here, and the results of the third and final set of videos posted when, after numerous disparaging comments by my dear friend gustav and others, the M5 owner finally put his SMG into S6 mode and repeated his runs.

Result: the M5 was clearly faster than in the earlier videos. So, unless one runs around in S6 mode all the time, one would seem to need to enter into this mode to get the best possible acceleration. And the 500 hp button would need to be pressed, although perhaps it's possible to leave the car in this mode permanently...oh, and then there's launch control, which also requires some button pushing and/or switching, yes?

So, I wasn't making it up, simply (albeit sarcastically) referring to past comments from M5 owners. Point was that there is certainly some setup involved to obtain max acceleration, and that, therefore, unless one goes around with all of this stuff on all of the time, he/she will have difficulty in imprompteu street runs.

Anyway, enjoy that 7 Series; I actually like the looks of it now that they've fixed the butt and trimmed the Andy Rooney eyebrows! Plus, the new engine upgrades will make it that more fun. And your kids certainly won't be lacking space back there!
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Love the blue M5

That car looked amazing ... I loved it!

In the numerous M5 posts and videos its obvious that car is an amazing piece of machinery. Yeah yeah its slower quarter mile than the E55 ... in my eyes its easily offset by the amazing handling everyone is reporting.

Personally I just can't get over the bangle butt. That, I'm sure, has lost BMW plenty of new owners for the M5 or M6. At least with the M5 it isn't as horrible as the tail on the M6.

I will say though ... I saw a AC 6 series and the tail that they add actually make that horrible back end look decent. A bit over the top but still better looking.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
Has this been proven by anyone on the board. An e55 with chip and pulley can perform equal on the highway with an M5. Do you mean that the M5 will not pull on a chipped E55 with a pulley above 120 mph?

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...light=renntech


let me clarify, this particular E55 is above the standard diviation percentile. However most Stage 1 cars are trapping 117 & 118 on par with an M5. This particular E55 is 3 mph ahead with only a chip and pulley.

I give you that the 7spd transmission is better after 120+ but the chip and pulley E55 will continue stay close or even.

A stage 2 K55, will do much better.
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