sdsilverm3

DR's help a ton. I got a set not too long ago. I don't see E55 owners pulling over to the side of the road to mount them during a street confrontation however.

JTS

Hey guys,

I just picked up my M6 on Wednesday and I gotta tell you this is a rocket. Even though I have not pushed past 6000 rpm I can tell you the high revving engine makes alot of power. I still like the thrust of 516 tq but this engine is amazing....and the smgIII is great. Better that I expected. Both cars are amazing but the M6 is a little more fun to drive....Just my thoughts....

Fikse

congrats on the M6..... I never get the high revving less torque is more fun, better, or amazing.... what are the real advantages of a motor like the M5/M6 vs the E55K motors?

JTS

I think the M6 handles alot better and the sound of the engine revving as the car changes gears adds a different element than my E55. The M6 feels alot lighter and has a lower centre of gravity. I love them both but they are very different.

jtc55

u know the rules when u get a new ride: PICS PLEASE!!!

FlyByNight

Please... the M6 results are just a tick under their M5 results... and all are around E55 times from way back when in 2003 until 100mph and over. So, I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. I can't wait to run into either car with my K2. And if I was stock, I'd still hang with them all day. The day I make a right turn to avoid any BMW, including my own NOS'd up piece of crap from 1991, is the day someone should take my license away.



Loren

Brabus E55

thats BS because the law prohobits dealers from doing that because it is illegal to void warrenty based on the way you drive your vehicle........ or some **** like that, all i know is that they can not void your warrenty because it is against the law for them to want to do that

Mad TKD

Launch mode will not net a higher trap. It will net a better 60ft.

A key example is supras. Weather it has 400 or 800hp on street tires they all run 12s mostly but traps differ greatly. 120s for the 400 and 135s for the 800. This I know first hand

I guess the only way to prove this is to have some one do it with launch control and with out.

Again a high trap is tells you how powerful a car is. Launching a car is dependent on traction.

JTS

Pics will be up soon....

enzom

The dealer was talking, like so many other dealers, out of his/her a$$. They can't sell a car here with a feature that will void your warranty after five uses. The same lawyers that caused BMW to decide not to offer the full blown launch control will have a field day with BMWNA if they tried to screw customers like that. If you follow M5Board, it is amazing how much misinformation the dealers were spewing on a car about which they were clueless. Frightening. Thank God for internet boards to sort through all the garbage.

As for the M6 1/4 test - very impressive. But I stopped relying on magazine tests long ago, especially corrected ones. We'll all just wait for them to hit the strip. Having said that, even if it runs a 12.4 @ 118 vs. my 12.1-12.2 @ 116-117, I am ready to accept that it will pull on me as speed builds. That's the nature of a 7 speed that keeps the RPM's in the sweetspot for so long. I will still sleep at night.

Time will tell how well the M6 does here in the US. I am not convinced that there is a strong enough market for that car. I just hope it doesn't turn out like the 8 series. Manufacturers will think twice before going out on a limb for a high performance car in this market - making us all suffer for it.

And my stock E55 has run through the traps many times in the 116's and 117's.

SFoRZA

At least your will be able to get a :::cough:::: ride

abalto

Do not ever believe a single word that any car dealer tells you, unless it is in writing...period!

cte430

Interesting comment about the "feel" of triple digit speeds. When I posted here my thoughts on the 997S vs. the E55 when I got the car, one of the things I noticed (and still applies today) is that high speeds in the porsche do not feel nearly as fast as what you are actually doing, compared to the E55. Did that make any sense? LOL. I find myself doing triple digit speeds much more often, and more comfortably and securely, than I ever did in the E55.

SleeperX

Mayeb your E55 needed a wheel alignment because mine feels like it is floating on air at 100mph. As a mattter of fact, a baby could sleep in the backseat while at those speeds. Not in a Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari. In most true sports cars where the driver is in touch with the road, you feel like you are doing triple digits. I speak from experience.

cte430

Did not need alignment. You made my point for me: "...floating on air at 100 mph". sorry, I don't want to feel like i'm floating at those speeds. Trust me, you're not being bounced around in the 997 - I too speak from experience

jangy

compared to a ride in an E, you are riding on rails!! Agreed, yours may feel more comfy, but it is no sleaper by any stretch of anyone's imagination.

We can talk back and forth about the experience, but there are enough guys on this board w/ both 996/997s and E55s to tell.

And by the way, those of us that went to the AMG challenge in Fortuna even have a video of us doing laps at 145mph in an E55 while straight CHILLIN with the AC blasting!! No WAY would that ride have been ANYWHERE near as cush in a Pcar.

RJC

And signed in the GM's blood!

355Spider

It's amazing how much power those Lambos lose thru that 4 wheel drive system. I saw a dyno graph of a murcielago and it only dynoed 15hp more. That means they are losing 18-25% thru a standard tranny.

stevebez

Met first M5 in London on road yesterday - as I was about to turn onto a freeway - and the bugger did not take the on ramp - that would have been a nice blast. I also parked next to one the other day and it is considerably higher than the E ... do they have the same drag coef?

Interesting that in that Clarkson / Topgear comparison the 997S was faster than the Aston (obviously) and the M6 by some margin over the ~2 mile road section they tested on. Road was pretty wet though which would favour the P-car's better grip.

MiamiAMG

There is no way that a stock M6 will "walk away" from a stock E55 & even more so from a stock 996T. Sorry, but that's complete BS. The M6 is definitely not on another level. It's right on par with the E55, & slower than a 996T.

355Spider

It's really impossible for any of us to say as I don't think any of us have driven or raced one yet but why would that be so hard to believe? It has more hp and less weight than an E55. It does look like preliminary reports from most of the testing done on the car will put it faster than both the TT and the E55.

FlyByNight

His point was its not possible it will WALK AWAY from an E55, and he's totally right. Listen all, a car walking away from another car at WOT is indicative of a huge acceleration difference. No one is disputing that the lighter M6 will be obviously faster than an M5... and that an E55 is right there in the mix.

But ain't no one walking away from no one here, gots it? 0-60 in 4.2, 4.1, 4.3... those are very very close margins. In fact, just looking at the variability in driver 0-60' times alone represents a much larger variance than any of these 1/4 times and 0-60 times.

I know this because my K2 pulls very hard hard against a stock E55. But every K2 owner here will also tell you it doesn't dramatically walk away from the stock car with an overwhelming fury. In fact, give the stock car a blip of a lead... a half sec difference in launches... and the K2 isn't catching it until almost triple digits. And that's with an almost 100hp gain.

So, talk about more power in the M6 and M5 is so negotiabe, its moot. While everyone here is ultra specific about car specs and times, lets also realize that some people know how to drive and some don't. Some are also a lot heavier at 300 pounts that that 180lb driver... but you don't see us listing our own "curb weights" in our drag times. And in this whole power comparison, its as relevant as any of the other statistics we're throwing out there.

My conclusion: More 17 year old girls in E55s will stomp more 17 year old girls driving M6s or M5s! That's because they don't require 400 settings and buttons to go fast. Hehe. They just fly right out of the box with a mash of the pedal...



Loren

rusbel

you don't have to use it off the line. All you have to do is hammer it once you're at 2500 rpm or so. All that torque is right there.

rusbel

can't wait to race one. Raced a toyota corolla today, though. SMOKED 'em!

JamE55

LOL M6 Settings for Dummies.