Aftermarket Sway Bar interest?
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Originally Posted by Vetluver
For what its worth you all might do a search for "sway bar" in the E55 forum. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum in the last 2 years. I asked the same question about sway bar changes and found out that no one makes any other bars.
A custom manufacture of the item was going to be necessary.
I talked to the owner of "Sky Jacker" who lives in the neighborhood and he said if there was enough interest he might be able to do the engineering of the parts. They normally make lift kits for monster trucks but could do any parts I want.
If you all get to a dead end let me know and I'll follow up on this lead.
A custom manufacture of the item was going to be necessary.
I talked to the owner of "Sky Jacker" who lives in the neighborhood and he said if there was enough interest he might be able to do the engineering of the parts. They normally make lift kits for monster trucks but could do any parts I want.
If you all get to a dead end let me know and I'll follow up on this lead.
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Originally Posted by 2K6E55
Im in.
I assume it will take a few trips, so between your car and mine it should be a good deal. Also, it will be nice to check the fascilities out.
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If you want sway bars then persumably these customers are going to open track events. You know what they would also value? A nice set of cold air ducts to the front brakes. On the track as we all know (or should know by now) the weak link of the car is cooling to the front brakes. My home made models from Ace hardware store allow for 2-3x more laps without the brale idiot light coming on. Proper made brake ducts that funnel air to the back of the caliper would increase this even more.
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
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Originally Posted by Gid_E_Up
If you want sway bars then persumably these customers are going to open track events. You know what they would also value? A nice set of cold air ducts to the front brakes. On the track as we all know (or should know by now) the weak link of the car is cooling to the front brakes. My home made models from Ace hardware store allow for 2-3x more laps without the brale idiot light coming on. Proper made brake ducts that funnel air to the back of the caliper would increase this even more.
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
It would be much fatser if the vendor was in San Diego, but oh well. I have to either find an E55 to drop by their facility or find time off work to do it myself. I am also sure that it will take a few trips up there before they are totally comfy with their program. Then we can have various sizes built and tested to find an optimal thickness.
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Originally Posted by Gid_E_Up
If you want sway bars then persumably these customers are going to open track events. You know what they would also value? A nice set of cold air ducts to the front brakes. On the track as we all know (or should know by now) the weak link of the car is cooling to the front brakes. My home made models from Ace hardware store allow for 2-3x more laps without the brale idiot light coming on. Proper made brake ducts that funnel air to the back of the caliper would increase this even more.
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
What do you say about taking the existing heat shields on the back of the front rotors off, fixing a brake duct hose assembly and making them available?
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Jangy:
Thanks for the response. I would be very interested in having an adjustable bar- it allows for fine-tuning your own setup, depending on your rims/tires, ride height, etc.
Here's an example from Stillen:
http://www.stillen.com/product_detail.aspx?sku=304350
It allows adjustment from 7-70% over stock. A similar mounting system which allows the end links to be placed closer or further away from the mounting point (stiffer/closer-looser/further) would be nice.
Thanks for the response. I would be very interested in having an adjustable bar- it allows for fine-tuning your own setup, depending on your rims/tires, ride height, etc.
Here's an example from Stillen:
http://www.stillen.com/product_detail.aspx?sku=304350
It allows adjustment from 7-70% over stock. A similar mounting system which allows the end links to be placed closer or further away from the mounting point (stiffer/closer-looser/further) would be nice.
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I will ask. I do not see where that would add much cost, if any. We may need to do the initial round just to get the template set. They basically need to know where and how much bend is needed to clear things under the car. Once it is done, then they can program to make any combination we need.
Keep the requests for specs coming on this thread. i will soon start a new thread, once I a have more details so that we can get a true count to see if we can get a group buy price. If not, then I can just tell you guys who has them and you can try to haggle on your own.
Keep the requests for specs coming on this thread. i will soon start a new thread, once I a have more details so that we can get a true count to see if we can get a group buy price. If not, then I can just tell you guys who has them and you can try to haggle on your own.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Would you be willing to take your car to LA (all work in a few hours)? If so, PM and you can get a free set, too.
I assume it will take a few trips, so between your car and mine it should be a good deal. Also, it will be nice to check the fascilities out.
I assume it will take a few trips, so between your car and mine it should be a good deal. Also, it will be nice to check the fascilities out.
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Sorry Jang, I applaud your efforts to get this project done.
I was just trying to let you know about previous discussions and attempts at improving the sway bars.
I am very interested in replacement if the price is right and it is not too aggressive. Two terrrible riding cars are enough.
I was just trying to let you know about previous discussions and attempts at improving the sway bars.
I am very interested in replacement if the price is right and it is not too aggressive. Two terrrible riding cars are enough.
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Originally Posted by Vetluver
I am very interested in replacement if the price is right and it is not too aggressive. Two terrrible riding cars are enough.
Adjustable bars are a must! There is no point spending all that money installing a new bar if you cannot "fiddle" with it later, in the privacy of your own garage!
It only makes me wonder: if it is only a matter of trying a few different bars for size, why didn't AMG do it, or have they already selected the best compromise?
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Originally Posted by Rafal
With the amount of time my car spends on the circuit track, I am very interested too. A good sway bar combination should not affect ride comfort but it will stop body roll and improve turn-in dramatically. That is why they need to test various thicknesses and points of atachment to work out the optimal leverage. It's a fine line between over and under-steer too.
Adjustable bars are a must! There is no point spending all that money installing a new bar if you cannot "fiddle" with it later, in the privacy of your own garage!
It only makes me wonder: if it is only a matter of trying a few different bars for size, why didn't AMG do it, or have they already selected the best compromise?
Adjustable bars are a must! There is no point spending all that money installing a new bar if you cannot "fiddle" with it later, in the privacy of your own garage!
It only makes me wonder: if it is only a matter of trying a few different bars for size, why didn't AMG do it, or have they already selected the best compromise?
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Originally Posted by Vetluver
Sorry Jang, I applaud your efforts to get this project done.
I was just trying to let you know about previous discussions and attempts at improving the sway bars.
I am very interested in replacement if the price is right and it is not too aggressive. Two terrrible riding cars are enough.
I was just trying to let you know about previous discussions and attempts at improving the sway bars.
I am very interested in replacement if the price is right and it is not too aggressive. Two terrrible riding cars are enough.
Hey, no biggie. You can count on two things.
1st, it will be fairly priced, or at least the group buy rate will be (I will not be involved after that). I have been assured of that, since it is an issue and I do know the costs involved.
2nd, it will be of added value and not just for show or it won't happen.
As far as the harsh ride, no way. My ride is a benz and will stay that way. Looks like consensus has us at adjustable, anyway.
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Originally Posted by 2K6E55
When? I will be out of town for a few weeks on business again. PM me w/the exact date. Thanks.
You have a free day coming up? I've been putting in 12 hour weekdays, so I may need to make it a weekend (if they are even open).
I'll pm you when I know.
Still amazed that no LA based E55s have offerred to let em size up their car for a FREE set. LOL.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Still amazed that no LA based E55s have offerred to let em size up their car for a FREE set. LOL.
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Originally Posted by Rafal
Proves a point I made here many times: E55 owners in LA only race in a straight line, so they have no use for those annoying twisted bits of steel under the car...
Peak days i used to go through a set of pads, rotors, and tires in 8-10k miles (fronts tires first always) and that was without ever setting foot on a track. At the track? Im lucky to get home on 1 set of tires!
Im just not always the first to jump at my car being taken apart. It has enough issues without any tinkering!
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
If you only lived in Southern California I would make you retract said statement there Rafal
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Originally Posted by Rafal
OK, I retract... there is ONE mad racer in Southern California
No no Jangy is kind of in Southern California (just 2 hrs moure southern than I) so he is the official "mad racer." I am just the racer. No one can get near Jangies level of madness.... I dare not try!!!! It just ends up hurting way to much.....
So that bring the count to 2 racers in so-cal.... yep thats about it!
But of course all you Ausies are all running your E55's backwards around your local road courses all day long! I've seen enough Ausie drag races to get the vibe that you have quite a bit of drag queens down there too!
Keep it real... Race that E55 and scare the pants off unsuspecting little cars.
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Hehe, almost kill a guy and he holds it against me. Man o man. Dude, i was dead tired by the time you got in my car. Using the R1, and the two lotus' just wore me out...
At least were your Lotus buddies honest to their fellow guys or did they just forget it happenned?
At least were your Lotus buddies honest to their fellow guys or did they just forget it happenned?
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Originally Posted by jangy
Hehe, almost kill a guy and he holds it against me. Man o man. Dude, i was dead tired by the time you got in my car. Using the R1, and the two lotus' just wore me out...
At least were your Lotus buddies honest to their fellow guys or did they just forget it happenned?
At least were your Lotus buddies honest to their fellow guys or did they just forget it happenned?
Im insane according to most but you take the cake! Watch out world Jangy is getting sway bars and more grip... stand aside ye of weak stomachs!
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
But of course all you Ausies are all running your E55's backwards around your local road courses all day long! I've seen enough Ausie drag races to get the vibe that you have quite a bit of drag queens down there too!
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Alright, i am getting impatient. WTF?? I work a deal for a fellow member to get a FREE set just for letting a big name look at your car for the day and it is a no show? I am WAAAAY too impatient for this crap. Any LA folks wanna sign up, send me your contact info. First to the place is it. Fing FREE how much easier do you want??
