Not on an E55, you could double the size of the rear bar and it will still understeer.

 

Not to be rude, but no it won't. The car is heavy and it will always have to deal with that. But, the weight of the car has nothing to do with the handling balance. Mine is EXTREMELY neutral (not that it is stock). The sway bars are simply needed to add transition stability. Additionally, they can be used in conjunction with any of the geometric parameters to tune over / understeer.

 

Bump back up...I need a car in LA to get the free set for the fitting???

 

Wait so the guy that you originally had didn't pull through or what? If the spot is still available I'll take one for the team

 

He has been MIA. PM me your info and you are in.

 

Doesn't Brabus make a sway bar for the W211? On my price guide it says so, but it doesn't specify whether it fits E55 or not?
JL

 

Yo Jangy...whatever happened with these guys??? Never got any call or anything from them...did you find someone else???

 

I contacted Brabus. Nothing for the E55.
Didn't seem very interested in speaking with me on development.

 

From what I hear, the initial dude has been willing. Hopefully it is underway. I was told to expect something by mid october.

 

Last day of October. Did the "Dude" come through?

Understeering minds want to know.

 

you forgot me , im the maddest

 

Stand in line. i am yet to be de-throwned.


The guy is apparently found. Also, i am seting up other sources anyway. Give me a few more months. For straight understeer, try running the rear rims up front. It does wonders to the understeer.

 

we gotta meet up for some canyon runs, sd is too far though and i dont like to wake up early , we should do some night runs

 

I wanna know what happened with this whole deal too...

 

Dunno about night runs, but the SD crew has been trying to setup a canyon run in LA or on the way there. We were turned onto a nice road between LA and SD on our last run by some Audi clubbers.

The sway bars will move soon, I promise. I am finishing up with the rotors and I will move on the sways next. I promise to find an alternative, if the original vendor has not come through yet.

 

Jangy,
I didn't even see this thread till now. If you still need an LA car, I'm there. Just let me know.

 

Thanks dude. Lots of LA folks came up and I'm not sure where that went. That is what i gotta follow up on.

 

Steve @ www.MBENZNL.com Brought me a Set of W211 Brabus Sways for the Wifes W211..The Front is easy to install The rear is a Bit more work as the rear subframe Must be dropped to install the sway bar

 

The night is the best time to do a run. Less people, fewer cops, and you dont have to worry about smashing me as I tinker up the road on my road bike (man powered kind) in the mornings and afternoons! The fact that it is dark is bad but these cars have lights that turn so you should be ok. When you drive the darkness lets you see cars coming well before you get near them. You just need to know the road and whats around the next bend. Knowing where all the bumps and crests come helps a lot too as those upset the car a whole bunch.

The roads up here are so much different than palamar. I would put your car in stock ride height Jangy before you even think about hauling a$$ out here. I dont drive my E55 in the hills for that reason. At stock ride height its a pig and lowered I would need 4 new shocks after taking any sort of a quick drive. Some sections have very large quick changes in road elevation and cars at stock ride height will slam all 4 wheels into the bump stops. Lowered.. you will blow parts right off the car.

You could start point of Westlake Blvd. and Thousand Oaks Blvd... Go up the 23, over Mulholand, past the rock store, past cornell, down Malibu Canyon, up Piuma, and then down stunt. This way you can watch brake pads burst into flames at the bottom of stunt....

I might make it out but i tend to stay away from groups of cars in the hills. Operation Safe Canyons has takes calls from residents when they see cars blasting through the hills and the Lost Hills Sherifs office can send a car out to catch you pretty easily if they wanted to. Also I would hate to see people push it to hard and fly off the road. I've seen many cars fly off the road in my back yard and the last time it took 2 choppers 5 hrs to pull the 9 people out (2-6 am).

 

You know I love you guys, but really, if you want to make your cars handle at all, get rid of the damn Cholo airbags. Throw some coilovers on that badboy, set it at a ride height you like, and then talk about how your car handles like its on rails.

I really do giggle every time someone tells me their W211 handles well.

 

I dont claim a thing... its a boat... i dont care how much camber it has or what kind of bars it has the air springs and the shocks just dont cut the cheese. Not bad but not a sproty car like an M5. It CAN go quickly when taken by then neck and forced to do it but its hardly a graceful act. Its full of odd body motions, serious steering kick (due to poor design of the steering tie rods and their angles with respect to the road -- almost impossible to fix without massive cash), and nice 1 wheel burn outs through an open diff!

If I were to meet up with them to drive in the hills I would not bring my E55 that is for sure!

The E55 has so much bushing play its a joke. The wheels shift around and the toe, camber and caster values just flop around under load. Scrap all the bushings that are filled with water and go with real polly mounts might make it better...but then it will ride like a bus!

 

I'm sure there are suspension guys out there that can do things for the car. Obviously from your statements its just **** poor design for a sports car but suits a luxury car just fine. They seem to have gotten the hint with the 63 and I wonder when people are going to put the two on a lift and see which parts are interchangeable.

 

Shocks are stillfer in both rebound and compression
Has larger bars and the addition of a rear bar
The wheels are .5 inches larger up front
The front lower control arms have stiffer bushings to improve steering
The steering rack has stiffer bushings holding it in place to improve steering feel
Steering rack is faster (not 100% sure as this changed in late 2004 as well)
The car sits about 1/3 an inch lower stock

Thats some things I have found. But mind each control arm is over 800 bucks and each shocks is 1.8k at retail and about 1200 at cost. Making an E55 turn will cost you a bucket of cash.

If you want that go buy an E63 or M5.

Thats my 2 cent.

Of course it CAN be improved BUT the demand for such parts would be so low that the cost per unit would be far to high to justify anything. About 10 people might want parts across the globe and I bet most would say sorry to a 10k bill for a set of new air springs and hydro shocks.

Its the market for these cars. That is why it was made soft and that is why no one makes parts. The customers really dont demand it.

 

Unfortunately, they are NOT for the E55. I assume that other W211 owners may want to consider getting the E55 ones, rather than the Brabus??

 

Funny, you think the E55 is a horrible handler, yet an E63 isn't?
Hmmm, go to your local dealer and give them the vin of each and see just how many parts are different and in what way.