PC Valkyrie

Well, I've been looking forward to this.....a comparison test between the M5 and E63. The article is in German, but here are the test results and bottom line. Both cars posted VERY SLOW acceleration times, but the M5 was faster to all speeds. The M5 is also faster in their handling tests, but the E63 was noted to handle signficantly better than the E55 ever did (thank you to Direct Control upgrades!).

Overall, they chose the E63 for its all-round talents. The translation of the bottom line comes from another forum.




"1st Place: Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG - The power of the new V8 leaves you breathless. The E63 AMG doesn't lack dynamic handling. Impressive, the comfort. The E63 is an allround talent.

2nd Place: BMW M5 - The M5's V10 lacks the punch of the E63 AMG in midrange acceleration, but the V10 impresses as the purist sportscar engine. In handling, the M5 is sportier. The transmission is something one has to get used to, and in comfort, the M5 lags behind."

stevebez

0-100km/h of 4.9 seconds is desperately disappointing ...

and the M5 is quicker to every speed measured.

I dont see how they could rate the E63 better ...... 2 second difference to 200km/h is around a 55 meter gap ... so ~13 car lengths ... ???

EDIT: It gets worse my cacls were for a 1 second gap so at 200km/h you covering ground at 56m/s and the gap is 2 seconds so 110m ... so ~23 car lengths ???? WTF thats allot of real estate right there ...

Is mid range grunt so impressive it makes the slower car better when the E55 arguably has better mid range grunt...... wierd ???

So I call this article

The figs and conclusion just dont add up ....

cte430

Is it really a mystery what the conclusions will be with these two cars? LOL.

BlkE63AMG

Those are very slow times. M5 0-100km 4.7 and E63 4.9?!!!! Where were they testing? Besides that Euro M5 must have had launch control. Others have tested between 4.3 - 4.5 ( 0-60 4.1 - 4.3). Of course ours here are slower. Weird that everyone who drives the E63 is stunned by it's speed yet these numbers are so low. Guess we'll have to wait and see.....

jtc55

WTF? i hope this is a misprint or an isolated incident b/c MB will be in big trouble if these numbers are correct. i thought MB quoted times that the E63 was quicker than the E55? is so, WTF is going on?

absent

N/a 6.3 generation, is "no go" area for me.....

oblax4

Agree - WTF?!?! They better stick some turbos on these ***** before I'm ready to trade in my Beast in another 2-3 years, otherwise I'll drive this thing until it melts! Very concerning and disappointing. Looking forward to hearing feedback on this forum from the first few folks to take delivery. Hoping they have more positive things to say!

jangy

Why do you think all the '06 E55s got sucked up so fast? All the dealer lots are loaded with '06 cars, except the E55. MB will be in no "big trouble". What are you going to do? Sue them for making a car that MAY be slower? Get an M5? LOL!!!

L8Apex

So far the 55 is still quicker than the 63 and the M5. Right?

I have (from the magazines):

0-62
e55 4.3
e63 4.7
m5 4.6

0-100
e55 9.7
e63 10.2
m5 10.0

PC Valkyrie

This is just one car magazine test. It's obvious to me that the times for both the M5 and E63 are slower than expected. Let's wait until more magazines do formal instrumented tests before jumping to conclusions that the E63 is slower than the E55.

My suspicion is that the E63/E55 will turn out to be something like what happened with the C55/C32. Much better handling and faster on a twisty track than its predecessor (because of the Direct Control upgrades), but not significantly faster in a straight line than its predecessor.

TopGun32

these are obviously MILES and not KM's

please provide references before posting your numbers...

I have yet to see a publish number 0 to 100 mph under 10 seconds for a E55.

where did you that figure?

Also, there has yet to be a test for a E63 North American car... so your numbers are based on a German magazine. You are mixing apples and oranges.

Please correct me if I'm wrong with facts.

Every magazine published in the US, had the M5 faster to 100 mph. The closest 55k motor to 100mph was believe it or not, the E55 State Wagon. It had the better 0 to 100 and 0 to 150 than the sedan.



IMHO: The euro M cars have the better LC and get better times. However like the magazine said, the midrange punch will be all AMG. That means around town, around the freeway, highways, and anything in between. Having said that, the E63 US spec will be faster than the US M5, that is my opinion.

2K6E55

I am glad I kept my E55...

Although I am on the list for the E63 as well. It should be here in mid August.

Jakpro1

RIP torque monster...old friend.

Future KILL sections of other forums.

"Another AMG bites the dust....E63 killed off the line"

M&M

Hey guys, I', not stirring here but I just popped in as I predicted this a while back amidst some heated debates (7G-tronic being one of them). I said the 63 will be slower than the 55, & the 55's are the ones to hang on to.

Of course the conditions might have been had on the day, but they were the same for both cars. As Audi found with the RS4, and AMG with the C55 & now E63, it's hard to replace a forced induction car with NA without going a step backwards.

But I would still take the E63 as I'm an NA fan & it's probable a better overall package if straight line speed isn't your main criteria.

Peace.

stevebez

Here is 1 : http://supercarx.com/articles/specifications/e55.htm

0-100 in 9.4 no less.... and has the M5 at 9.3.

Has 12.4 for E55 1/4m and 12.5 for the M5.


Here is another : http://www.engine-power.com/mercedes-benz/e55_amg.html

0-100 in 9.7 .... has qtr at 12.4

Not the best sources but their qtr times look in line with real world.

MiamiAMG

That's exactly what i think happened in this test. I wonder how we can find that out.

TopGun32

I think 0 to 100 is closer to 10... but I stand corrected, there is some below 10 second.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ets-page3.html

here you have a CLS55
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_pricing.html

here is a E55
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html


here is the wagon
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...gon-page2.html

whoover

Another indication something is not right with the test: Mercedes performance claims are always very conservative, and their published 0-100 km/h time for the E63 is 4.5 s.

L8Apex

Brilliant.

No problem! Only if you check your grammar before posting.

see post #17.

?? (See ref. to grammar.)

You did it for me in your last post #17. Thanks.

2MANYCARS

Interesting. I've encountered my first E63 in Queens, NY. Graphite color, guy seems to be in the 30s driving it. I couldn't see how fast it was going, because it was going the opposite direction, but I DID hear that exhaust, very fine tuned V8 rumble. Gave the guy thumbs up when he was passing by, I was stuck in traffic in my bimmer.

TopGun32

lol... you new members... are funny!

i didn't know were were in a spelling contest?

where did you get your sources...? I gave you mine.

M&M

I don't think it was launch related. To 80 km/h (50mph) the cars were pretty even. Then the M5 was 2 seconds faster to 124mph. Looks more like horespower, powerband, gearing to me. But hey what do I know?

BTW those are pretty aweful times for the M5 as well.

L8Apex

Yes Newbie. You are very funny. Check my join date and your grammar (big difference between grammar and spelling).

I used Motortrend for the 55 0-100 mph data.

Beltfed

Exactly, not sure what is up with that test....but I would to see what others come up with.

Beltfed

My dealer has basically 2 06 E's left, that's it....usual summer sales event.

Right, everyone ran down to their dealer to get an E55 because of the already wide spread news that the E63 comes up short performance wise.