My DYNO results...
#1
My DYNO results...
Went on Dyno yesterday...The lastest machine from DYNO DYNAMICS only 4 in the world...Told it doesnt matter on this machine...
Unfortunately coudnt put on DYNO mode, doesnt work the same as in US cars...but after couple of pulls ASP and ABC got confused and messtage said porblem with both on those systems, so basically the werent working anyway...
Also we switched the car only one time btw the run and they turned my heater up so it would take away some heat from engine...
Anyways:
1 pull showed 343 KBT at the wheels
2nd showed 338 KBT at the wheels
3rd showed 328 KBT at the wheels
Been told that we need to add those number by 1.36 to have HP numbers...
so last run showed around 443 HP at the wheels...
Torgue curve showing around 800-820 of Torgues stock should be aroound 700-720 (European measures)...
Raced yesterday night in 1/4 mile and beat stock E55's by 3-4 cars...
I will scan the graphs and post it here either on Today or on Monday...
Unfortunately coudnt put on DYNO mode, doesnt work the same as in US cars...but after couple of pulls ASP and ABC got confused and messtage said porblem with both on those systems, so basically the werent working anyway...
Also we switched the car only one time btw the run and they turned my heater up so it would take away some heat from engine...
Anyways:
1 pull showed 343 KBT at the wheels
2nd showed 338 KBT at the wheels
3rd showed 328 KBT at the wheels
Been told that we need to add those number by 1.36 to have HP numbers...
so last run showed around 443 HP at the wheels...
Torgue curve showing around 800-820 of Torgues stock should be aroound 700-720 (European measures)...
Raced yesterday night in 1/4 mile and beat stock E55's by 3-4 cars...
I will scan the graphs and post it here either on Today or on Monday...
Last edited by E55 RUSS; 08-05-2006 at 06:07 AM.
#2
Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Went on Dyno yesterday...The lastest machine from DYNO DYNAMICS only 4 in the world...Told it doesnt matter on this machine...
Unfortunately coudnt put on DYNO mode, doesnt work the same as in US cars...but after couple of pulls ASP and ABC got confused and messtage said porblem with both on those systems, so basically the werent working anyway...
Also we switched the car only one time btw the run and they turned my heater up so it would take away some heat from engine...
Anyways:
1 pull showed 343 KBT at the wheels
2nd showed 338 KBT at the wheels
3rd showed 328 KBT at the wheels
Been told that we need to add those number by 1.36 to have HP numbers...
so last run showed around 443 HP at the wheels...
Torgue curve showing around 800-820 of Torgues stock should be aroound 700-720 (European measures)...
Raced yesterday night in 1/4 mile and beat stock E55's by 3-4 cars...
I will scan the graphs and post it here either on Today or on Monday...
Unfortunately coudnt put on DYNO mode, doesnt work the same as in US cars...but after couple of pulls ASP and ABC got confused and messtage said porblem with both on those systems, so basically the werent working anyway...
Also we switched the car only one time btw the run and they turned my heater up so it would take away some heat from engine...
Anyways:
1 pull showed 343 KBT at the wheels
2nd showed 338 KBT at the wheels
3rd showed 328 KBT at the wheels
Been told that we need to add those number by 1.36 to have HP numbers...
so last run showed around 443 HP at the wheels...
Torgue curve showing around 800-820 of Torgues stock should be aroound 700-720 (European measures)...
Raced yesterday night in 1/4 mile and beat stock E55's by 3-4 cars...
I will scan the graphs and post it here either on Today or on Monday...
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Raced yesterday night in 1/4 mile and beat stock E55's by 3-4 cars...
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(Terminal speed 180km/h = 50 m/sec. 3.5 car lengths =17m or 1/3 of 50m/sec = 0.33sec)
You will get bigger variation in the same car over 6 runs on the same night. Mine range from 12.3 to 12.9 sec, depending on the launch.
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Originally Posted by Rafal
Hmmm...I think his signature has more than the exhaust in it...
#7
Originally Posted by Rafal
That sort of difference doesn't count as it is only 0.3 sec.
(Terminal speed 180km/h = 50 m/sec. 3.5 car lengths =17m or 1/3 of 50m/sec = 0.33sec)
You will get bigger variation in the same car over 6 runs on the same night. Mine range from 12.3 to 12.9 sec, depending on the launch.
(Terminal speed 180km/h = 50 m/sec. 3.5 car lengths =17m or 1/3 of 50m/sec = 0.33sec)
You will get bigger variation in the same car over 6 runs on the same night. Mine range from 12.3 to 12.9 sec, depending on the launch.
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#8
Originally Posted by rbc55
i was referring to motor mods,don't care about the rest.was trying to figure out how with only eisenmann exhaust he beat a stock e55 by three cars;must have been a w210 e55 for that to happen.and no i wasn't there but in reality that wouldn't happen unless they let off or had problems(heat soak,etc.)
Got to think that this stuff helps as well!!!
Have you seen the Kleemann headers?
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Yep...I think those headers helped Me a lot....Eben when other E55 got a jump, I would still catch up with him and by 120-130 we would have big gap btw US...then I would hit the limiter at 155...
Btw tuned M6 did 315km on speedo...around 195-197mph...
I didnt remove my Primary CAT yet, I think they would help ME even more at higher speeds...but this another topic...
Btw tuned M6 did 315km on speedo...around 195-197mph...
I didnt remove my Primary CAT yet, I think they would help ME even more at higher speeds...but this another topic...
Last edited by E55 RUSS; 08-06-2006 at 05:27 AM.
#10
Originally Posted by MB_Steve
Kleemann Style Headers Carlsson C-tronic 2 (lowering module)
Got to think that this stuff helps as well!!!
Have you seen the Kleemann headers?
Got to think that this stuff helps as well!!!
Have you seen the Kleemann headers?
#11
Originally Posted by rbc55
i don't know where you get those calculations but three to four cars at that speed is way more than .3 seconds.for instance,cars i've run on the street as well as the track that were a half seond faster were usually two cars ahead;and this ratio has been tested time after time w/ different races and cars.all of these cars and runs were in the 12.0-13.0 sec range.
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Originally Posted by rbc55
i don't know where you get those calculations but three to four cars at that speed is way more than .3 seconds.for instance,cars i've run on the street as well as the track that were a half seond faster were usually two cars ahead;and this ratio has been tested time after time w/ different races and cars.all of these cars and runs were in the 12.0-13.0 sec range.
You quote anectotal evidence ie. guesswork. Do the maths and you will see that at 1/4 mile the car is travelling at 180kph which means it takes 1 sec to travel exactly 50m. (180,000 m divided by 3600 sec) One car length is 4.85 m. 3.5 car lengths equals 17 m, or 1/3 of 1sec travel time. It does not take Einstein to figure it out.
3-4 car lengths at 1/4 mi mark, travelling at full speed is 0.3 -0.4 sec.
I think the metric calculations are a bit confusing...refer to the post above. Amen.
Last edited by Rafal; 08-06-2006 at 12:09 AM.
#13
Originally Posted by Rafal
It's called MATHS.
You quote anectotal evidence ie. guesswork. Do the maths and you will see that at 1/4 mile the car is travelling at 180kph which means it takes 1 sec to travel exactly 50m. (180,000 m divided by 3600 sec) One car length is 4.85 m. 3.5 car lengths equals 17 m, or 1/3 of 1sec travel time. It does not take Einstein to figure it out.
3-4 car lengths at 1/4 mi mark, travelling at full speed is 0.3 -0.4 sec.
I think the metric calculations are a bit confusing...refer to the post above. Amen.
You quote anectotal evidence ie. guesswork. Do the maths and you will see that at 1/4 mile the car is travelling at 180kph which means it takes 1 sec to travel exactly 50m. (180,000 m divided by 3600 sec) One car length is 4.85 m. 3.5 car lengths equals 17 m, or 1/3 of 1sec travel time. It does not take Einstein to figure it out.
3-4 car lengths at 1/4 mi mark, travelling at full speed is 0.3 -0.4 sec.
I think the metric calculations are a bit confusing...refer to the post above. Amen.
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Originally Posted by rbc55
sorry in the real worl condititons these calculsations don't fit any races i've experienced at all and i've been doing it for years.all your mathematical equations don't add uip in my experiences.
Your butt dyno is probably also more accurate than any machine, because "you've been using IT for years" too!
Sorry, but all my life I've dealt with facts, not "gut feeling" and "years of experience". You would never put a man on the Moon relying on your "experience"
#15
Originally Posted by Rafal
So, your real world defies science...?
Your butt dyno is probably also more accurate than any machine, because "you've been using IT for years" too!
Sorry, but all my life I've dealt with facts, not "gut feeling" and "years of experience". You would never put a man on the Moon relying on your "experience"
Your butt dyno is probably also more accurate than any machine, because "you've been using IT for years" too!
Sorry, but all my life I've dealt with facts, not "gut feeling" and "years of experience". You would never put a man on the Moon relying on your "experience"
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Originally Posted by rbc55
your "real world" scientific numbers don't mean jack to me.it was what is was;funny how everytime i post a kill story, which isn't often; some idiot has to question the outcome ...get out from behind your computer and "walk the walk" if you are going to "talk the talk".
Just because you beat someone by five car lengths does not mean your time is five car length's better than his. You could in fact have equal times , he just got bogged down for 0.5 sec! Dream on buddy, or better still, go back to high school and you will have more respect for science and maths.
BTW, it's not just your Maths and Science, your spelling and punctuation stinks too.
Last edited by Rafal; 08-06-2006 at 07:37 PM.
#17
Originally Posted by Rafal
All so called "races" involving cars like the E55 at the drag strip are individual sprints where each car triggers his own photo cell in a rolling start. You are racing against the clock, not the guy near you (unless you are in the BIG LEAGUE, where reaction time and all that **** really counts)
Just because you beat someone by five car lengths does not mean your time is five car length's better than his. You could in fact have equal times , he just got bogged down for 0.5 sec! Dream on buddy, or better still, go back to high school and you will have more respect for science and maths.
Just because you beat someone by five car lengths does not mean your time is five car length's better than his. You could in fact have equal times , he just got bogged down for 0.5 sec! Dream on buddy, or better still, go back to high school and you will have more respect for science and maths.
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Originally Posted by rbc55
.somehow you keep trying to make it personal and drift away from the topic.let it go,i have!
Last edited by Rafal; 08-06-2006 at 10:33 AM.
#19
Originally Posted by Rafal
All so called "races" involving cars like the E55 at the drag strip are individual sprints where each car triggers his own photo cell in a rolling start. You are racing against the clock, not the guy near you (unless you are in the BIG LEAGUE, where reaction time and all that **** really counts)
Just because you beat someone by five car lengths does not mean your time is five car length's better than his. You could in fact have equal times , he just got bogged down for 0.5 sec! Dream on buddy, or better still, go back to high school and you will have more respect for science and maths.
BTW, it's not just your Maths and Science, your spelling and punctuation stinks too.
Just because you beat someone by five car lengths does not mean your time is five car length's better than his. You could in fact have equal times , he just got bogged down for 0.5 sec! Dream on buddy, or better still, go back to high school and you will have more respect for science and maths.
BTW, it's not just your Maths and Science, your spelling and punctuation stinks too.
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Originally Posted by rbc55
my first post was at 5:40 am and was half asleep after taking xanax.my punctuation and spelling are flawless except for that post,so get over yourself and don't try and divert attention away from the issue.that is what people do when they can't respond w/a legitimate answer.
#21
Originally Posted by Rafal
You made it personal by calling me "some idiot". I would not brag too much about finishing community college on a football scholarship either.
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
BOYS...you fisnished ???
It's all your fault! Why couldn't you have got some decent mods?
You would have beaten your buddy by 15 car lengths and my friend here wouldn't need to count all his fingers (and toes) to work out the relative speeds of those cars.
#24
Originally Posted by Rafal
Round one.
It's all your fault! Why couldn't you have got some decent mods?
You would have beaten your buddy by 15 car lengths and my friend here wouldn't need to count all his fingers (and toes) to work out the relative speeds of those cars.
It's all your fault! Why couldn't you have got some decent mods?
You would have beaten your buddy by 15 car lengths and my friend here wouldn't need to count all his fingers (and toes) to work out the relative speeds of those cars.