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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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stock c6Z goes 11.1@128

stock c6Z goes 11.1@128. Does 469rwhp seem awfully high for a STOCK C6Z06? Something sounds funny and the driver keeps getting "ringers" (11.8 stock C5Z)

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...slip-8071.html

Also I drove in my friends '05 C6 and its NASTY fast. It has a massive s/c 408 CI and NOS. The car his is cloned after made 954 rwhp. His front tires were lifting off on the street when we drove in it. It would make this stock Z look like a slug.

He is also selling in if anyone is interested for 65K.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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11.1 bone stock except for DRs? Holy crap. That thing will hang with a CGT!
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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i gota c6 zo6, never ran the qtr or dyno'd it so i couldnt tell ya
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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For the price of C6 ZO6, you could buy a C5 Z06 and twin turbo it to 600whp+ and have cash left over for a daily driver. Or how about 700hp+ supra or other high hp import and mercedes/bmw for daily driving? C6 Z06 is fast, but certainly not the "best bang for the buck". Besides... $70,000 is just way too much for such a one-dimensional car.

P.S. Check out the SLK55 section for a Kleemann S8 SLK55 vs C6 Z06. They were neck to neck.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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I've seen them dyno around 450+ rwhp.... an extra 20HP? could be I suppose.... the kicker is, that launch isn't that great for drag radials.... if he drops that down to 1.70, he'll be in the 10's.....
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
For the price of C6 ZO6, you could buy a C5 Z06 and twin turbo it to 600whp+ and have cash left over for a daily driver. Or how about 700hp+ supra or other high hp import and mercedes/bmw for daily driving? C6 Z06 is fast, but certainly not the "best bang for the buck". Besides... $70,000 is just way too much for such a one-dimensional car.

P.S. Check out the SLK55 section for a Kleemann S8 SLK55 vs C6 Z06. They were neck to neck.
what new car is a better bang for the buck?
how is it 1 dimensional?
it ran a faster time around the top gear test track than an enzo (same driver), that takes more than acceleration (btw, the enzo accelerates faster)
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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what new car is a better bang for the buck?
how is it 1 dimensional?
it ran a faster time around the top gear test track than an enzo (same driver), that takes more than acceleration (btw, the enzo accelerates faster)
Umm.. no it did not. Z06 ran 1min 22.4 seconds, Ford GT was faster at 1min 21.9 seconds. Ferrari Enzo ran 1min 19.0 seconds, and yes it does accelerate faster considering it traps 135mph on stock tires lol. Please do not mislead people with false information. Almost every test conducted, cars like Ford GT and Ferrari F430 were faster on track than Z06 and the testers complained of the Z06's lack of feel and "scary" oversteer. Plus, it usually ranks last in objective categories. Its just a souped up C6 really... supercharge your C6 and modify suspension and you got Z06 beating performance for less money with a car that looks the same.

P.S. I'm surprised this guy's roof did not fall off when he was accelerating, as it happened on numerous occasions with other C6 Z06's (even though the roof is supposed to be fixed lol)

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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:22 AM
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The difference is a modified C6 will never have dry sump oil system, 427ci, widebody etc. from the factory that the Z06 does. Not to mention, you will have factory reliability and full warranty that a modified C6 will never have. You can make many cars faster for less money, but find one FACTORY STOCK, NEW car that can do what the Z06 does for the same or less money.

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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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I've seen them dyno around 450+ rwhp.... an extra 20HP? could be I suppose.... the kicker is, that launch isn't that great for drag radials.... if he drops that down to 1.70, he'll be in the 10's.....
60' does not reflect the time. I've seen people run their best 60' and worst time of the day.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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maybe if they miss a shift or screw up the run somehow, otherwise the launch or the first 60' means everything for the final ET/time.....



Originally Posted by newton22
60' does not reflect the time. I've seen people run their best 60' and worst time of the day.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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My opionion about the new Z06 is that for 70g it can almost hang with the exotics, and I think it's pretty darn good for the price.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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That's Ranger. He is a drag racing legend on Corvette forums. I am not at all surprised by his run on drag radials.

He was also, I believe, the fastest guy with a stock C5Z06.

The Z06 is a hell of a car. And Ranger manages to get the most out of it at the strip.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
For the price of C6 ZO6, you could buy a C5 Z06 and twin turbo it to 600whp+ and have cash left over for a daily driver. Or how about 700hp+ supra or other high hp import and mercedes/bmw for daily driving? C6 Z06 is fast, but certainly not the "best bang for the buck". Besides... $70,000 is just way too much for such a one-dimensional car.

P.S. Check out the SLK55 section for a Kleemann S8 SLK55 vs C6 Z06. They were neck to neck.

That probably has to be the most retarded statement of all time. Why not just buy a civic hatchback for a couple grand and spend $30,000 on motor, suspension, and whatever else because then you'll be as fast as the Z06 but $40,000 cheaper. You can say this sh*t all day long but fact is, I had one, the Z06 is an absolute monster. I smoked a Diablo when I was in FL one time. Trust me, they are very very fast and the build quality is actually, I don't care what ANYONE says, awesome! I had no squeeks, rattles, or anything, and the seats were amazingly comfortable. I made a 6 hour drive and never stopped once, not even for gas (29mpg, beat that). So, yeah, I think it's one hell of a bang for buck! It's just all in what you want...
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
For the price of C6 ZO6, you could buy a C5 Z06 and twin turbo it to 600whp+ and have cash left over for a daily driver. Or how about 700hp+ supra or other high hp import and mercedes/bmw for daily driving? C6 Z06 is fast, but certainly not the "best bang for the buck". Besides... $70,000 is just way too much for such a one-dimensional car.

P.S. Check out the SLK55 section for a Kleemann S8 SLK55 vs C6 Z06. They were neck to neck.
are you ****ing retarded?
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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are you ****ing retarded?
A four word idiotic reply that explains nothing is the only retarded thing I see. I guess I didn't express myself very clearly.. what I'm trying to say is that the price difference between a base C6 and Z06 is so big that the money could be better spent on modifying the C6 to be much faster than the Z06 and still have money left over for a daily driver. Not only would it be faster, it would esentially look the same to a typical bystander. And I'm not the only one who thinks that, Z06's price was a big contreversy even within the corvette community. I'm not dissing the corvette by any means, I was actually thinking of buying the C6, however, I certainly don't agree with the Z06's price tag.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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That probably has to be the most retarded statement of all time. Why not just buy a civic hatchback for a couple grand and spend $30,000 on motor, suspension, and whatever else because then you'll be as fast as the Z06 but $40,000 cheaper. You can say this sh*t all day long but fact is, I had one, the Z06 is an absolute monster. I smoked a Diablo when I was in FL one time. Trust me, they are very very fast and the build quality is actually, I don't care what ANYONE says, awesome! I had no squeeks, rattles, or anything, and the seats were amazingly comfortable. I made a 6 hour drive and never stopped once, not even for gas (29mpg, beat that). So, yeah, I think it's one hell of a bang for buck! It's just all in what you want...
true that!!!

$4k-stock civic
$15-20k-on the motor
$3k-suspension
$5k-rims,etc..

$27k-total (fast as f**k, flying low) lolz!
these cars could be in the 10's or even low 9's, but i dont think you could daily drive the car. not sure!
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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maybe if they miss a shift or screw up the run somehow, otherwise the launch or the first 60' means everything for the final ET/time.....
someone once told me that the 60' and the ET is a 2:1 conversion? Meaning if you ran say a 12.0 w/ a 2.0 60' ... if your 60' was 1.9 you would have ran an 11.8 on that very same run?
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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someone once told me that the 60' and the ET is a 2:1 conversion? Meaning if you ran say a 12.0 w/ a 2.0 60' ... if your 60' was 1.9 you would have ran an 11.8 on that very same run?

Generally speaking, a .1 improvement in your short time nets .15 on the big end.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Umm.. no it did not. Z06 ran 1min 22.4 seconds, Ford GT was faster at 1min 21.9 seconds. Ferrari Enzo ran 1min 19.0 seconds, and yes it does accelerate faster considering it traps 135mph on stock tires lol. Please do not mislead people with false information. Almost every test conducted, cars like Ford GT and Ferrari F430 were faster on track than Z06 and the testers complained of the Z06's lack of feel and "scary" oversteer. Plus, it usually ranks last in objective categories. Its just a souped up C6 really... supercharge your C6 and modify suspension and you got Z06 beating performance for less money with a car that looks the same.

P.S. I'm surprised this guy's roof did not fall off when he was accelerating, as it happened on numerous occasions with other C6 Z06's (even though the roof is supposed to be fixed lol)
it was faster than a 430, not the enzo, i ****ed up.
but that still doesnt give credibility to your retarded statement.

a car with bigger brakes/engine/wider body etc...
is lighter than the base model, where else do you see that?
the only example i can think of is gt3 but that car isnt wider, the engine isnt bigger and the brakes arent much bigger, not to mention its barely got sound insulation (i drove 1).

to supercharge a c6 and modify the suspension will cost about 12-15$, not to mention brakes (another 5-7500), wheels (at least $4500). and it will weigh even more than a stock c6, will look the same as any c6, will not have warranty, will not have the engine sitting lower and further back, etc....

you get the point, you should just admit that that statement was retarded and well pretend it never happened
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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For the price of C6 ZO6, you could buy a C5 Z06 and twin turbo it to 600whp+ and have cash left over for a daily driver. Or how about 700hp+ supra or other high hp import and mercedes/bmw for daily driving? C6 Z06 is fast, but certainly not the "best bang for the buck". Besides... $70,000 is just way too much for such a one-dimensional car.

P.S. Check out the SLK55 section for a Kleemann S8 SLK55 vs C6 Z06. They were neck to neck.
Spoken like a certifiable moron and one who has no concept of what the C6Z06 really is. You would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle. You're just another Internet-addicted idiot suffering from diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the mind.

The Z06 is hardly one dimensional. It is at home on a road course, drag strip or freeway. It is the best bang for the buck Supercar available today.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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At the end of the day, having a stock car run these #'s is just insane for the $$$! You are playing in super exotic land from a performance perspective.

No question that the C6 Z06 is the best value and bang for your dollar in performance history

Hence, why my 07 BLK Z should be sitting in my garage within the next 3 months

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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Just got back fro the track in my Z06.

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Had a blast It was about 65 degrees out. Probably 70 on the track. My car has LG headers, tune and a halltech race filter on stock tires. 22hp more than stock(482rwhp). I had my passport timer in the car on each run so I got alot of other times as well. It was accurate within about .03 sec with the track timer. I pulled the QT times of my slips and the rest off the timer. I had to make all 3 passes within 25 minutes as I was late to the track. So no cool down in between runs and tires were all fully inflated.

........60 ft...0-60..0-100..0-120...QT......mph
Pass1 1.95...3.77...7.57....10.4....11.53...12 6.2
Pass2 1.95...3.42...7.42...10.35...11.45...126
Pass3 1.85...3.55...7.4.....10.35...11.38...12 5.3

Check out those 0-60 and 0-100 times. Loads of fun. Lovin this car.
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Originally Posted by Fikse
maybe if they miss a shift or screw up the run somehow, otherwise the launch or the first 60' means everything for the final ET/time.....
And I've also seen vice versa. I've seen people run their worse 60' and fastest time.

60' does not reflect time. And if it does, its limited to these AMG cars, but not cars in general.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Well hell, let me jump on the Z06 bandwagon and post my video too..

Bone stock, 1st and only run of the day, 5th total pass ever in the car (I don't like drag racing)

http://video.ls1tech.com/video/ea6de...4e00370948.htm
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