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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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lambo HP vs E55 hp?

i finaly ran into a super car in my E55 to race, we pull up at a light and i point ahead as to say lets run um. he took about 2 minutes to finaly figure out how to roll down the window and ask what. i told him lets race. he looked at me like i was crazy! so i asked again and he said i have 500hp i smiled and said thats ok. he then read my v8 kompressor badge on the side with this look as he had no clue what i was driving. so my question is what lambo has 500hp i never seen this one before it didnt look special. and would i have had a chance? how do you tell some one not to be so big headed and race without sounding like a dick.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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you should have said..."only 500...never mind, i mistook your gallardo for the mercielago...have a nice day".
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
you should have said..."only 500...never mind, i mistook your gallardo for the mercielago...have a nice day".
ooohh thats a good one i dont know my lambos like you do but i will use that if it ever happens again. so could i have takin him????
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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so could i have takin him????
on paper, no. in the real world and by the sound of his experience level, quite possibly. either way, if he's going to be snobby about it, get snobby right back.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
you should have said..."only 500...never mind, i mistook your gallardo for the mercielago...have a nice day".
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
on paper, no. in the real world and by the sound of his experience level, quite possibly. either way, if he's going to be snobby about it, get snobby right back.

Isn't a Gallardo a 12.0 car? Damn close to many of our stock E55s, especially those of us that run around on sticky tires all the time
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
on paper, no. in the real world and by the sound of his experience level, quite possibly. either way, if he's going to be snobby about it, get snobby right back.
ya i hear ya about the snobby part but i come from a different background than most of you guys and i will tend to push for a more violent incounter. its best for me to stay respectfull untill i get disrespected. what does my car need to beat this lambo? im gettin renntech stage 1 on saturday what stage do i need to get ??? thanks. i have a fellin vrus is gonna be gettin some PMs from me soon. i did not like that guy thinkin he and his lambo were better than me!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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so my question is what lambo has 500hp i never seen this one before it didnt look special. and would i have had a chance? how do you tell some one not to be so big headed and race without sounding like a dick.
Are you saying that you don't know what car it was lol? C'mon man.. there are only two "lambos", a $170k, 500hp Gallardo, and a $280k 580hp Murcielago. Both do 0-60 in 4 second flat and run the 1/4 mile near 12 flat (stock) and both are AWD. As a car enthusiast, you are required to know these basic facts about lambos

P.S. Actually there is now a 3rd lambo! The Murcielago LP640 with 640hp!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Are you saying that you don't know what car it was lol? C'mon man.. there are only two "lambos", a $170k, 500hp Gallardo, and a $280k 580hp Murcielago. Both do 0-60 in 4 second flat and run the 1/4 mile near 12 flat (stock) and both are AWD. As a car enthusiast, you are required to know these basic facts about lambos

P.S. Actually there is now a 3rd lambo! The Murcielago LP640 with 640hp!
i was never into lambos or spec of cars i cant afford! he must of had the gallardo. cuzz it wasnt the lambo i see on the rappers videos. lol.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
you should have said..."only 500...never mind, i mistook your gallardo for the mercielago...have a nice day".
That's awesome!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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I don't really think a stock E55 will take a baby Lambo although I did race when at K2 level and was glued to his bumper and let off so I didn't hit him!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Depends on the weather
You would've lost.
All you would see is tail lights.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Minte
You would've lost.
All you would see is tail lights.
Are you sure about that? I only see one Lambo in this comparison and I don't think it's stock.

Edit: go to page 4 to get a few lambo times. Yes page 4.







Compare 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslips:

Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
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ETTemp FStockCarYearDriver0.0000.000 8.223 85.820 1.901 91.0 YesMercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 Jrocket 10.950*131.230 7.108 100.580 1.698 70.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Kleemann Stage 22005 Derek 11.379*121.010 7.340 96.460 1.764 70.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 Albert 11.389*122.240 7.303 95.980 1.610 53.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Derrick DJE55 11.410*129.020 Lamborghini Gallardo Heffner Twin Turbo2006 NA 11.504119.890 7.390 94.280 1.647 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 dwtboss 11.520*121.670 7.434 95.140 1.717 41.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Derrick DJE55 11.540119.310 7.408 94.090 1.672 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 dwtboss 11.562121.490 7.476 94.770 1.739 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 Albert 11.596*121.320 7.517 95.020 1.815 58.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 BMWEATR 11.630*120.390 7.470 95.390 1.640 41.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Spero 11.638121.890 7.735 94.010 1.903 55.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 hilsman 11.700119.430 7.515 93.440 1.694 74.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Derrick DJE55 11.760*116.590 7.580 92.880 1.750 51.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 saber 11.800*120.960 7.688 94.040 1.930 60.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 SGC

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Engine: Turbos: Supercharger: Boost Control: Boost Pressure (psi): Intercooler: Nitrous Oxide NOS System: NOS Shot: Pistons (rotors): Port: Rings (seals): Heads: Connecting Rods: Intake: Filter Headers (downpipe): Midpipe: Exhaust: Carburetor: Computer: Ignition: Spark Plugs: Gas: 94 Octane Pulley: Transmission: Clutch: Flywheel: Shifter: Gears: Wheels: Tires

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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
ya i hear ya about the snobby part but i come from a different background than most of you guys and i will tend to push for a more violent incounter. its best for me to stay respectfull untill i get disrespected. what does my car need to beat this lambo? im gettin renntech stage 1 on saturday what stage do i need to get ??? thanks. i have a fellin vrus is gonna be gettin some PMs from me soon. i did not like that guy thinkin he and his lambo were better than me!
I would say to get the headers as well but get the kleemann headers. Do a search on renntech headers and I think there is a post that shows the renntech and the kleemann. I think the evo header may be better as well. Some one correct me if I am wrong but I thought the renntechs were very close to stock. My car ran a 13.06 at 109mph with full gas, my wife at the drag strip and thats at 5500ft and my first time out.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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The Kleemann headers do seem to be bigger ... but I have yet to hear of a Renntech header cracking ... I believe I have already seen at least two different people here post about cracked Kleemann headers.

As to the Renntech headers being close to stock ... I would have to disagree. BIG difference. And I was just eyeballing them yesterday.

Oh and in terms of after stage 1 Renntech ... you might want to look at the IC pump upgrade. Either that or the Intercooler upgrade. I think it depends on how you like to modify. I'm the type that does one step at a time and uses the safest steps first. IC pump upgrade can solve some of the headaches of IC pump failure and also gives the ability to pump more. Intercooler upgrade is to ensure low IAT temps because the additional boost will increase temps. Then you can do the more HP upgrades and get your ECU tuned(everytime for free after purchase) for every level of upgrade. (Headers, Airbox, Throttle body etc)

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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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This is a dynojet comparison i gathered a while back. You can see how the different engines compare... Keep in mind winning races are not only aboiut HP and TQ, but also weight, aerodynamics and gearing.
Attached Thumbnails lambo HP vs E55 hp?-rwhp-graph.jpeg   lambo HP vs E55 hp?-rwtq-graph.jpeg  
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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bi turbo amg: ya i think im goin to get evo headers i belive i read that they are cali approved (carb) and a direct bolt on. the real reason though is price.
SLK55R: im just like you i want 1 part at a time so that way i know what does what. probably headers after renn stage 1 then intercoller from evo or renntech if the price is within reason. i read on evo website it will give 15-20hp can that be true or a over stated number?
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Are you saying that you don't know what car it was lol? C'mon man.. there are only two "lambos", a $170k, 500hp Gallardo, and a $280k 580hp Murcielago. Both do 0-60 in 4 second flat and run the 1/4 mile near 12 flat (stock) and both are AWD. As a car enthusiast, you are required to know these basic facts about lambos

P.S. Actually there is now a 3rd lambo! The Murcielago LP640 with 640hp!
It was most likely a Gallardo he ran into but just to add, there are a few more than just "two" Lambos. You are 4getting the Diablo (regular and SV) which was 530 or some hp, the miura (forgot the hp), the Countach etc. Other than that, there were some older ones too like the Islero, Jarama etc.

I'd still take a F430 any day of the week.
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I think he's talking about current production.

Ferrari's are fo suckas that are weak.

Real men wrestle with bulls.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vraa
I think he's talking about current production.

Ferrari's are fo suckas that are weak.

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I was indeed talking about current production, if we go way back, there was even a Lamborghini SUV not too long ago! As far saying Ferrari are for "suckas" I completely disagree with you. I would even go as far as saying Ferrari is more of a driver's car that lambo. Lamborghini's are too heavy, AWD (real sports car should be RWD, in my opinion), and are not focused enough on track performance. Ferrari builds track cars for real enthusiasts, such as the F360 challange stradale and the upcoming F430 Challange Stradale, not to mention the amazing Ferrari Enzo and past F40 and F50. Lamborghini on the other hand, builds car that are easier to drive and much less involving than ferrari, not to mention a lot slower on track! Lamborghini needs to go back to the drawing board and offer more focused cars. It seems to me that lamborghinis are too focused on the "poseurs" rather than drivers! Putting a gallardo on a serious diet, converting to RWD, and offering adjustable suspension would be a good start. As it is now, F430 is just on a whole different level, and Ferrari hasn't even released the F430 Challange Stradale yet!
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LM002. I know about it

Don't take half the things I say seriously.

Enzo sucks, it's about as sporty as my sisters X5.
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I was indeed talking about current production, if we go way back, there was even a Lamborghini SUV not too long ago! As far saying Ferrari are for "suckas" I completely disagree with you. I would even go as far as saying Ferrari is more of a driver's car that lambo. Lamborghini's are too heavy, AWD (real sports car should be RWD, in my opinion), and are not focused enough on track performance. Ferrari builds track cars for real enthusiasts, such as the F360 challange stradale and the upcoming F430 Challange Stradale, not to mention the amazing Ferrari Enzo and past F40 and F50. Lamborghini on the other hand, builds car that are easier to drive and much less involving than ferrari, not to mention a lot slower on track! Lamborghini needs to go back to the drawing board and offer more focused cars. It seems to me that lamborghinis are too focused on the "poseurs" rather than drivers! Putting a gallardo on a serious diet, converting to RWD, and offering adjustable suspension would be a good start. As it is now, F430 is just on a whole different level, and Ferrari hasn't even released the F430 Challange Stradale yet!

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i heard of a gallrdo sv coming out sometime after the facelift
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I was indeed talking about current production, if we go way back, there was even a Lamborghini SUV not too long ago! As far saying Ferrari are for "suckas" I completely disagree with you. I would even go as far as saying Ferrari is more of a driver's car that lambo. Lamborghini's are too heavy, AWD (real sports car should be RWD, in my opinion), and are not focused enough on track performance. Ferrari builds track cars for real enthusiasts, such as the F360 challange stradale and the upcoming F430 Challange Stradale, not to mention the amazing Ferrari Enzo and past F40 and F50. Lamborghini on the other hand, builds car that are easier to drive and much less involving than ferrari, not to mention a lot slower on track! Lamborghini needs to go back to the drawing board and offer more focused cars. It seems to me that lamborghinis are too focused on the "poseurs" rather than drivers! Putting a gallardo on a serious diet, converting to RWD, and offering adjustable suspension would be a good start. As it is now, F430 is just on a whole different level, and Ferrari hasn't even released the F430 Challange Stradale yet!
I completely agree with you, if I ever have the chance to choose between the two cars (Murcie or F430), my choice would most likely be the Ferrari simply because the car is built more for the driver in mind as far as power, handeling, comfort and functionality. My friend has a Murcie, it's a very sharp looking car, but he claim he will get a backache for driving anything over 100 miles round trip. However, the titanium exhaust from his Murcie can't be beat, not even a motorcyle race bike. Soooooooooooo loud....makes Eiseman catback for M5 sounds like nuthing.
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makes Eiseman catback for M5 sounds like nuthing.
That's because the M5 sounds like a diesel!
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Just so you know the Renntech headers are also carb certified and even have a nice little metal stamp on them with the number.

They fit easily without any hassles ... direct bolt on.
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