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E63 vs. E55

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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E63 vs. E55

All of you wondering what the actual HP/TQ difference between the 55 and the 63, here it is. 2007 E63 with 480 miles on the odo 100% stock. To keep it semi-accurate, the 63 plot is compared to a board memebers 2005 E55 that had a mere 130 miles on the odo, 100% stock. Let's try to keep it on topic. If you're here to say how much you hate our dyno- don't waste your time. What we're interested in is the DELTA- that's all that really matters anyway.... Enjoy!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Ouch!! Over 90 ft/lb difference! Thank God for the 7 spd.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Ouch!! Over 90 ft/lb difference! Thank God for the 7 spd.
Indeed!! The 7-Speed helps, along with the 2.82 diff ratio (compared to the 2.65 the E55's have).
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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stock 55 dynoed at 446hp? that is above avg i hope? mine was only 430hp. what are the base number you see before modding?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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So even though they are rated otherwise, the E55 still made more peak hp than the 63?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Cory,
Is the 2.82 rear a direct swap? Can the ECU and the rest of the electronics live with that? That would be a great upgrade to the 55's if it's painless.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Rocket- These are crank numbers, not wheel.

Akara- yes- the 63 makes about 30 (give or take) LESS HP than that particular E55 made- we won't even mention the torque difference.

FastE55- From just quickly looking at the E63, I would say it is a direct swap. Half shafts look the same, as do all suspension components, subframes, etc. You'll need to have your trans. controller programmed if you want to swap ratio's though.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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So even though they are rated otherwise, the E55 still made more peak hp than the 63?
Not only did the 55 make more PEAK hp, it also made more HP in every single RPM range- the HP difference in the mid-range is just incredible.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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The torque difference is huge in the mid range.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Wow, those are some startling numbers...
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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I really didn't expect the difference to be so drastic. Either M-B is lyin or the hp range in production is all over the map. Either way, something is just plain rotten.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Thanks for the post, now we have some empirical data to compare using the same dyno machine. But again, its just machine numbers and not what the car does on the street- still the disparity is crazy.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Good choice I made when I picked up the E55 instead of the E63.

Now, let's see what some of the newbies that swear on God which the E63 is faster than E55 have to say after reading this post.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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by looking at the graphs, the E55 has a clear advantage anywhere in the RPM's

hard to belive the cars are so close when actually run on the street....
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Wow... This is very interesting. Good thing I kept the E55. Thanks for the post Cory.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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What are all you E55 owners gonna do when us E63'ers start adding blowers to our cars? You guys are so paranoid now, I can't imagine what it'll be like!

Good thing I kept the E55
Yeah, good thing. You'd be screwed if you had to drive an E63 all day lol.

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by limitup
What are all you E55 owners gonna do when us E63'ers start adding blowers to our cars? You guys are so paranoid now, I can't imagine what it'll be like!



Yeah, good thing. You'd be screwed if you had to drive an E63 all day lol.
Looks like you got screwed with your choice!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Hi Cory,

The first thing I noticed is that the E63 only had 480 miles on the odometer........so obviously the motor is not broken-in.

On a more serious note, do you think this was an anomaly or should we expect to see similar results with other 63s.

Finally, is the only significant power upgrade on these cars going to be a blower?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by limitup
What are all you E55 owners gonna do when us E63'ers start adding blowers to our cars?
Laugh hysterically when your 7-speeds and high-compression motors disintegrate, lol.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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All this bickering is really ignorant on both ends. Each is different.
On a serious note, I'd be careful being the "pioneer" on modding an E63 too heavily. The weak links in the E55 have been found, but not on the E63. It will be a classic case of breaking the weakest link as you continue to upgrade. We all know my feeling towards the 7g, so I would strongly consider any low end TQ mods. If I got an E63, I'd go for more high rpm changes that won't stress the system as much.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
Hi Cory,

The first thing I noticed is that the E63 only had 480 miles on the odometer........so obviously the motor is not broken-in.

On a more serious note, do you think this was an anomaly or should we expect to see similar results with other 63s.

Finally, is the only significant power upgrade on these cars going to be a blower?

The 05 E55 also had 150 miles on it.........
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by x-tian-230k
The 05 E55 also had 150 miles on it.........
That was a joke.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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I'd like to see the E63 with more miles on the clock. However, that kind of power in an E-Class equates to the times that DerekFSU posted when he first got his E63.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
That was a joke.
Thanks Jangs.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Looks like you got screwed with your choice!
I didn't buy an E63 to drag race. I bought it because it's an all-around better car than an E55. I'd trade a few tenths in the quarter mile for that any day. It's a daily driver, not a race car. Doh!
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