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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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2007 911 Turbo v 2007 Corvette Z06

Although there is no E55s in this video, I thought as true car enthusiasts, everyone would enjoy this..


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...f100fa61be.htm
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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LOL at the redneck in the vette.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Although there is no E55s in this video, I thought as true car enthusiasts, everyone would enjoy this..


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...f100fa61be.htm
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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LOL at the redneck in the vette.
A lot of southerners talk that way.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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That's the stereotypical Vette owner. Geez, I want one of those car's but like the stereotype goes, it's a redneck's Porsche.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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That's the stereotypical Vette owner. Geez, I want one of those car's but like the stereotype goes, it's a redneck's Porsche.
Can't hate on the guy! Discipline to the Porsche was in order. And there are plenty of very snobish porsche owners who probably sound like big Preppy J.O.'s as far as that guy is concerned .
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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hee haw. that's a fast vette!
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Good vid, those Z's are impressive no doubt. I thought the P-car would have done better from a dig
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Maybe I am a little biased b/c I previously owned an '02 Z06 but the new
505 hp Z06 is am amazing race car. I've seen them go mid 11's with stock everything. They are king of dragstrips. Awesome vid.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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I'd like to see that redneck pick on a 911 in the vettes class. If im not mistaken the vette weighs about 500 lbs less, and is only RWD. If that was a GT2(less weight, RWD, more power) it would be a different story. With this being said its been proven the Z06 is one of the best values in the sports car market.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Oh that's totally credible....

Checkout this video.

Stay till the end for the 997TT VS. Z06 showdown.

http://coochas.com/porsche/Resources...Jan07-400m.wmv
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Interesting. I would attribute the diffence in the videos to 2 things:
1) Driving skills - maybe the driver in the 2nd video can't shift
2) Distance - We don't know the distance of the 1st race. I would estimate that the 911 turbo beat the Z06 in the first 1/8 of a mile in the video that I posted. Interestingly enough though, in the second video the 911 turbo had a weak start IMHO for an AWD car.. The EVO launched much harder....
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We all knew what the results would be in the first video. The typical bash came up: 150k P Car got spanked- taking money/price out of the equation what car would you want? I know that the few tenths in the quarter would not sway my choice.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Good vid, those Z's are impressive no doubt. I thought the P-car would have done better from a dig
Was that Pcar a tip (first vid), if it wasnt then that dig race seems about right. The tip gets out even better than the 6 speed.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Everything I have seen about the 997 turbo speaks to the contrary. I guess most numbers are posted w/ the TipTronic. I was under the impression that the 911 was the faster car. Again, it may be driving skills or the 6MT in the 997 turbo. I'll have to do more research. No question the ZO6 is awesome but I thought the 997 turbo was even better.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by norb
Oh that's totally credible....

Checkout this video.

Stay till the end for the 997TT VS. Z06 showdown.

http://coochas.com/porsche/Resources...Jan07-400m.wmv
This just confirms that the guy in Turbo racing the Redneck Vette didnot know how to drive. I always thought a new 997TT would beat the new ZO6. The coochas video confirms this.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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MPH is king when it comes to 1/4 racing... the ZO6 clocks an average of 126-128 mph... the 997 clocks a 120-122..... a four car lead on average in any race... the 997 is a bad *** ride... though outdated exterior....at $140k... the z06 is a bargain and will put it to shame....which car gets the most looks? A wide rear vette with massive tires sporting a Maranello hood scoop or a 997 with same looks as the 996 of yesterday? Quality? both cars are unique... but overall the Z06 is more a raw race car with heated seats and a/c.... and nav if you need it.....a real man's car for performance driving....
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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I can't wait to find a Z06...everytime I see one we are going in different directions. I had no problem with a 07 TT P-car from 0-90mph when i left off but I think a stock Z06 would take my car in the 1/4 or shortly thereafter or any race up to 130mph.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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The Z06 is quite the bargain, but as soon as you sit in one, you see where GM did not spend the money. I guess for some that's OK, but what's cool about the 997TT is that it has both performance and style. The plastic interior of the Z06 is shameful in a car that is $70K. At least for the outrageous price of the TT, you get full leather (dash and doors) as standard. Another thing about the 997TT is that its the better everyday car, AWD in the rain and snow, and it has back seats for kids.

Anyway, the 997TT is more GT than all our sports car. That's the GT3 and GT2.
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The Z06 is quite the bargain, but as soon as you sit in one, you see where GM did not spend the money. I guess for some that's OK, but what's cool about the 997TT is that it has both performance and style. The plastic interior of the Z06 is shameful in a car that is $70K. At least for the outrageous price of the TT, you get full leather (dash and doors) as standard. Another thing about the 997TT is that its the better everyday car, AWD in the rain and snow, and it has back seats for kids.

Anyway, the 997TT is more GT than all our sports car. That's the GT3 and GT2.
Well I don't want you to take this personally, but I don't see where you are getting? Are you saying the C6 Z06 isn't enough car for $75k? I personally think any car that runs a mid 11 second quarter mile bone stock is worth more than $75k. The car is very reasonably priced in my personal opinion. The Z06 is a sports car, not a GT car. GM can care less about throwing a fancy wood trimmed interior into it. The Lotus Elise, I believe, costs nearly $50k, and it has a interior that looks like it was half finished. It's purpose, however, isn't to provide the driver comfort.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Umm, there are some drivers that think a nice interior is part of the package. See this forum as an example. I gave props to the Z06, but if all you care about is the numbers, then you're better off buying a Mustang GT and hopping it up to match the Corvettes numbers. At half the cost.

Did you not also read about the AWD capability? The rear seats? Don't take it personally, but learn to read and undestand first.
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According to R&T:
997TT runs 0-60 in 3.3, 0-100 in 8.3 and the Q/M in 11.8 @118.3;
ZO6 runs 0-60 in 3.6, 0-100 in 8.5 and the Q/M in 12.0 @121.0
I really doubt a ZO6 will just walk away from a well driven TT as shown in the video, as the TT bests the Z in 0-60 and 0-100 and although it has a slower trap speed at the end of the Q/M it still has a lower/better elapsed time. Also it appears the guy who produced/filmed this video seems to own the red Z06. I agree about the low rent interior found on all C6 Vette's. Chevy should get Audi to help them in the interior dept, MB can also teach them a thing or two. You know if GM would have added an add'l $1500 to the C6's base price from the very beginning, know one would have been the wiser and it could have upgraded the interior to something very nice from the get go.

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According to R&T:
997TT runs 0-60 in 3.3, 0-100 in 8.3 and the Q/M in 11.8 @118.3;
ZO6 runs 0-60 in 3.6, 0-100 in 8.5 and the Q/M in 12.0 @121.0
I really doubt a ZO6 will just walk away from a well driven TT as shown in the video, as the TT bests the Z in 0-60 and 0-100 and although it has a slower trap speed at the end of the Q/M it still has a lower/better elapsed time. Also it appears the guy who produced/filmed this video seems to own a red Z06. I agree about the low rent interior found on all C6 Vette's. Chevy should get Audi to help them in the interior dept, MB can also teach them a thing or two. You know if GM would have added an add'l $1500 to the C6's base price from the very beginning, know one would have been the wiser and it could have upgraded the interior to something very nice from the get go.
0.2 seconds in the quarter is nothing to write home about. That race came down to the drivers and the average 997 guy isn't going to drive his car nearly as hard as the average vette guy.

Drag racing a 911 is pretty retarded anyway, the car is simply not designed for it. Launching hard enough to pull an 11 second quarter is murder on it's drivetrain. If you are going to trash such an awesome car you should just hand over the keys to someone who is going to appreciate it (like me )
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Yup, Porsche's were meant to be road racing cars not drag cars. I've owned quite a few turbo Porsche's over the years and hard drag race type launches are not only very tricky to do right but tough on some of the cars parts (CV joints from what I remember suffered the most).

Some more info from C&D about the 997TT tip's times vs the 6 speed and a little mention about the Z vs. the TT:

Going in, it was an uphill battle for the automatic. Our test car weighed 3584 pounds, a 70-pound penalty compared with the manual. Furthermore, the automatic launches without much wheelspin, unlike the manual, and it therefore doesn't get off the line as swiftly. We hit 30 mph in 1.3 seconds, which is 0.2-second off the manual's pace. But that early deficit is overcome by the Tiptronic's smooth and quick wide-open-throttle upshifts which keep the turbos spooled up, unlike what happens when you lift to shift in the manual. By 60 mph, that lost time is made up and the Tiptronic matches the manual car's 3.4-second blast. From there, it continues to gain ground and edges out the manual in the quarter-mile by a scant 0.1 second—11.6 seconds at 122 mph versus 11.7 at 121—and it stays ahead the rest of the way, hitting 160 mph in 22.1 seconds versus 23.8. In case you're wondering, that quarter-mile time is better than the quickest 505-hp Corvette Z06 we've tested.
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