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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 05:53 AM
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Hi Teflonman... Thanks for taking the time to respond. I did see the part about the tire pressure, was thinking 24lbs was a bit low, don't want to spin them on the rims, but will try it. Noticed they were not spinning on launch at 41lbs, so thought the higher pressure would be ok, and actually help overall gearing. My brother in law with the E55 rane the same pressure as I did, and did a 12.413... I would'nt think it would make that big of a difference, but will try it. Also like the idea of manually putting it down into 1st (while in S-mode).

I'll try some runs next time I am at the track (April 9th) with traction control on & off. I'll also have the dealer re-flash the ECU as well. For some reason my 'fly by wire' feels really slow at part throttle from a stop when compared to my old E55. Heck, that may be an issue too. I am told it will show a fault, but not sure about that.. Anyone else experiencing what I'd call a 'dull' throttle?

Thanks again guy's for all the kind words & thoughts...
Dont forget the car adapts to your driving style so if you are "driving like miss daisy " this is how the car will adapt. prior to the track u will need to get on the car ,especially do a few dead stop WOT launches from 0 to 120 so the car adapts .

And about the tire psi , If u are hooking with 41 leave it be . LOwering tire psi will result in less MPH. try first as is and if u see wheel spin is a issue start backing out a few psi each pass till good .
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All my best 60 ft times came from very very light pre-load, 800 rpm-1100.

The key in my opinion is getting your foot off the brake , barely hold the car at the line.

I usually stop just after 2nd light flickers so I have some room to roll w/o red lighting.

a 2.0 60 ft is decent on street tires but I would of liked to see a slightly higher trap.

A goal for your car would be 12.6-12.7 @ 111-112. stock. Please also weight your car so we have an idea, the performance packaged , panorama cars are whales.

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
All my best 60 ft times came from very very light pre-load, 800 rpm-1100.

The key in my opinion is getting your foot off the brake , barely hold the car at the line.

I usually stop just after 2nd light flickers so I have some room to roll w/o red lighting.

a 2.0 60 ft is decent on street tires but I would of liked to see a slightly higher trap.

A goal for your car would be 12.6-12.7 @ 111-112. stock. Please also weight your car so we have an idea, the performance packaged , panorama cars are whales.
Ding Ding, I rolled thru the scales at 4460...Freakin pig...At that I couldn't get below a 2.0 60' this same night. But I was running 12.6 @ 112 the two runs I pulled a 2.0...I really wish I'd bought a sunroof only car...
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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All my best 60 ft times came from very very light pre-load, 800 rpm-1100.

The key in my opinion is getting your foot off the brake , barely hold the car at the line.

I usually stop just after 2nd light flickers so I have some room to roll w/o red lighting.

a 2.0 60 ft is decent on street tires but I would of liked to see a slightly higher trap.

A goal for your car would be 12.6-12.7 @ 111-112. stock. Please also weight your car so we have an idea, the performance packaged , panorama cars are whales.
how the F did you get a 1.4 60 foot i wish i can get 1.6 and 1.5 would be a dream for me 1.4 is like ill keep going with this .
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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My home town 1/8 mile track just opened for the season!!! Hopefully I will be there on Sat if the weather holds. Ok I'm confused are you guys launching with traction controll on or off, I have DR's by the way.

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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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My home town 1/8 mile track just opened for the season!!! Hopefully I will be there on Sat if the weather holds. Ok I'm confused are you guys launching with traction controll on or off, I have DR's by the way.
traction off . DR's are not really required IMO.

I ran same times with the Nitto Invo's as i did with the DR's .

Actually best 60ft of the day 1.82 was on the Invo street tires .
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gonzales25
My home town 1/8 mile track just opened for the season!!! Hopefully I will be there on Sat if the weather holds. Ok I'm confused are you guys launching with traction controll on or off, I have DR's by the way.
Yeah I go traction off...I'd rather have a little spin than spark getting cut....
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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a 2.0 60 ft is decent on street tires
Really?

Mods: Charcoal filters removed, K&N filters installed, street tires with no pressure change.
Track: Sunshine 1/8-mile Dragstrip in Clearwater, Florida - DA: 435.06 ft Air Density for Sunshine Dragstrip
Weight: No scale (estimated @ 50,000lbs = Humpback)
Best R/T: +.002
Best 60ft - 1.955 / 1.986 / 1.988 / 1.991 (50.0 deg f TRACTION!)
Best 1/8 -- 8.177 / 8.215 / 8.163 / 8.244 (under corresponding 60')
Best MPH - 88.61 / 88.30 / 89.00 / 88.17


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panorama cars are whales.
Heavy cars need love too! And besides, the chicks dig it.
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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kamchief
Really?

Mods: Charcoal filters removed, K&N filters installed, street tires with no pressure change.
Track: Sunshine 1/8-mile Dragstrip in Clearwater, Florida - DA: 435.06 ft Air Density for Sunshine Dragstrip
Weight: No scale (estimated @ 50,000lbs = Humpback)
Best R/T: +.002
Best 60ft - 1.955 / 1.986 / 1.988 / 1.991 (50.0 deg f TRACTION!)
Best 1/8 -- 8.177 / 8.215 / 8.163 / 8.244 (under corresponding 60')
Best MPH - 88.61 / 88.30 / 89.00 / 88.17

nice runs..
trap speed is good.
this result correspondes nicely with temp.




Heavy cars need love too! And besides, the chicks dig it.
Yep my CLS weighted at 4560 and a best 4275 with weight reduction.

high 7.90's should be your goal..
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
nice runs..
trap speed is good.
this result correspondes nicely with temp.
Actually, the temp that night was like 40-something (brrrr) hence the DA was lower that night. That link gives you up to the minute DA. It was just too damn cold to get traction.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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Actually, the temp that night was like 40-something (brrrr) hence the DA was lower that night. That link gives you up to the minute DA. It was just too damn cold to get traction.
for no traction, and considering the chilli surface and air you did really well in the car.

its going to be a whole lot slower in the Florida summer
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
its going to be a whole lot slower in the Florida summer
Yeah, yeah, I know. I wasn't sure if my Powerwheels Pro replica wheels & BFG-DRs would get here this week to make it to Bradenton for some 1/4-mile action, so I signed up for some cone action. Should be interesting.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Well it looks like rain tomorrow, so the cone killings might get washed out. Decided to run down to Bradenton to see what I could do. Heard it can get busy on Saturday but I got there early and got a few runs in. She did as expected I guess for bone stock & 46K miles.

Temp = 77.0 deg f
Corrected barometer = 30.03 Hg
Relative humidity = 43 %
Dew point = 53.1 deg f
Grains = 59.246118
Density Altitude = 1504.08 ft
R/T - .027
60' -- 1.941
330' - 5.372
1/8 -- 8.183
MPH - 88.36
1000- 10.582
1/4 -- 12.606
MPH - 111.55

Head-to-head, my 96 Impala would have jumped out to an early lead at the 60' with a 1.788 (+ .153), but the Benz is coming by the 1/8 with the Impy muscling out an 8.076 (+ .107). But at the finish, although it would have been close, my best time in the Impy is 12.651 (- .045)
Ahhh, the technology today.
How many inches is .045 seconds at 111 mph?
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Well it looks like rain tomorrow, so the cone killings might get washed out. Decided to run down to Bradenton to see what I could do. Heard it can get busy on Saturday but I got there early and got a few runs in. She did as expected I guess for bone stock & 46K miles.

Temp = 77.0 deg f
Corrected barometer = 30.03 Hg
Relative humidity = 43 %
Dew point = 53.1 deg f
Grains = 59.246118
Density Altitude = 1504.08 ft
R/T - .027
60' -- 1.941
330' - 5.372
1/8 -- 8.183
MPH - 88.36
1000- 10.582
1/4 -- 12.606
MPH - 111.55

Head-to-head, my 96 Impala would have jumped out to an early lead at the 60' with a 1.788 (+ .153), but the Benz is coming by the 1/8 with the Impy muscling out an 8.076 (+ .107). But at the finish, although it would have been close, my best time in the Impy is 12.651 (- .045)
Ahhh, the technology today.
How many inches is .045 seconds at 111 mph?
Awesome thats a great comparison.

Helluva a light you cut.

That is a great time an trap in those conditions.

If both cars left at exactly the same time end result is the Benz wins by 4.5 inches, lol

Lemme do the math
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kamchief
Well it looks like rain tomorrow, so the cone killings might get washed out. Decided to run down to Bradenton to see what I could do. Heard it can get busy on Saturday but I got there early and got a few runs in. She did as expected I guess for bone stock & 46K miles.

Temp = 77.0 deg f
Corrected barometer = 30.03 Hg
Relative humidity = 43 %
Dew point = 53.1 deg f
Grains = 59.246118
Density Altitude = 1504.08 ft
R/T - .027
60' -- 1.941
330' - 5.372
1/8 -- 8.183
MPH - 88.36
1000- 10.582
1/4 -- 12.606
MPH - 111.55

Head-to-head, my 96 Impala would have jumped out to an early lead at the 60' with a 1.788 (+ .153), but the Benz is coming by the 1/8 with the Impy muscling out an 8.076 (+ .107). But at the finish, although it would have been close, my best time in the Impy is 12.651 (- .045)
Ahhh, the technology today.
How many inches is .045 seconds at 111 mph?
Do you have a pano roof.?? Those are pretty much exactly the same times I was running in about the same DA here in TX.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Do you have a pano roof.??
Yes I do.
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another update. this was at MIR the DA was positive +62 59F 100oct
tune/header/filter/DR's i think this makes me the 3rd quickest c63 in world. dadc63 1st dodger 2nd with 11.472 at 123.18 same mods same day.
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another update. this was at MIR the DA was positive +62 59F 100oct
tune/header/filter/DR's i think this makes me the 3rd quickest c63 in world. dadc63 1st dodger 2nd with 11.472 at 123.18 same mods same day.


The C63,

This car has arrived. Great pass, excellent 60 ft time for a 63.

Dodger has the same tune and mods, did he run a different tire?

Did you guys weight your cars? Is Mr. Dodger lighter than you?

You guys need to push Keith into the 10's , that would be unreal.

I am very proud of your improvements and enthusiasm.

Thanks for the slip , C63's splattering the top of the list.

Maybe someone will throw a 125 shot mid track and take aim at sub 11?
Maybe you guys can get there all motor?

AMAZING

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The C63,

This car has arrived. Great pass, excellent 60 ft time for a 63.

Dodger has the same tune and mods, did he run a different tire?

Did you guys weight your cars? Is Mr. Dodger lighter than you?

You guys need to push Keith into the 10's , that would be unreal.

I am very proud of your improvements and enthusiasm.

Thanks for the slip , C63's splattering the top of the list.

Maybe someone will throw a 125 shot mid track and take aim at sub 11?
Maybe you guys can get there all motor?

AMAZING
Tnx again Josh, Dodger mods are tune/header/airbox with k&n's and mt's and 100oct on 93oct tune.
I'm samething with no airbox and foamfilter.
His a lil heavier then me but his car was driven by a ligher person.both our cars came in at 3910 with no one in the car and no spear.
Ps I'm sure if Dadc63 came out to MIR in the winter he would touch 10's in his car. I'm begining to think if I have -1500 DA or greater and a 100oct tune and stall conv I can get her into the low low 11's
Hey time will tell
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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another update. this was at MIR the DA was positive +62 59F 100oct
tune/header/filter/DR's i think this makes me the 3rd quickest c63 in world. dadc63 1st dodger 2nd with 11.472 at 123.18 same mods same day.
Excellent Job!

You guys are doing an outstanding job on your platform and it's just a matter of time before dipping into the 10's.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Excellent Job!

You guys are doing an outstanding job on your platform and it's just a matter of time before dipping into the 10's.
Tnx man but till winter thts all she got. Unless I do some more mods
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hit cecil today and car was stuck on 12.1's -12.2's today .

i didnt even drive it lol thank u Bruce and Nick Im such a lazy **** .
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hit cecil today and car was stuck on 12.1's -12.2's today .

i didnt even drive it lol thank u Bruce and Nick Im such a lazy **** .
dayum,

How were 60 ft times? Car shoulda hella launched on your set up.

Was it hot out or was prep bad? I would expect your car sub 12 with the CCW's
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dayum,

How were 60 ft times? Car shoulda hella launched on your set up.

Was it hot out or was prep bad? I would expect your car sub 12 with the CCW's
. we tried a run on 19 inch wheels with invo's and spun bad and then threw on the CCw's .

Temps were 75-80 and 60's were 1.88 -1.86 consistant .

only pulled 5 runs . no race fuel splash all 93 .
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. we tried a run on 19 inch wheels with invo's and spun bad and then threw on the CCw's .

Temps were 75-80 and 60's were 1.88 -1.86 consistant .

only pulled 5 runs . no race fuel splash all 93 .
Heat killed the traps

car will hit 118 and run 11.90's with exact same 60 ft times in 60 degrees.

Next time add some 100 to your 93 1:2 ratio. this will give a 95 which prolly is closer to a true 93 rating. Your tune for 93 should work well in this scenario. Keep the CCW rears try and get smaller upfront less rolling resistance .

did you guys launch off idle and are you running in dyno?
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