Thanks .
I have this to share as this post has taken on a dangerously personal nature wit the attacks.

I love car videos but more importanylt I like hanging out with friends who have all manner of highly modded and fast cars_AMG's M5's GT2' Z06...the lot

I appreciate what Gustav is trying to do with the videos. Its definatly a start. They could be used as a template for futur vidoes . How many of us have read car magazines right stories about our cars which come noting close to the truth about how they really handle. I read one about how teh Z06 lost to the 997Turbo even though the Z06 was faster.
My point is this
-we get to watch videos and not read just kill stories
-we get to debate from what we see

We might not beleive what we see but at least over here in the States nobody can pull the wool over our eyes as most of us are seasined drivers. I mean if you're driving an E55AMG or M5 or M6 you must be at least hardcore.
So my position has always been to watch the videos, analyze them and make my own conclusions.
I don't think we should start name calling or banning people who post in different forums
None of us is getting paid by BMW/AMG for driving these cars...(or maybe some of are) so why fight over it
Let Ygones be Bygones and just take what you see with a grain of proverbial salt.
I for one don't beleiev that I have the fastest car out there.none of us do! But we have some seriously fast rides that very few cars on the road can beat. So lets just enjoy the vidoes until we make our own and not take them so personally.

Sorry for the long post. Its just that I have good friends here and on the M5 board and we meet up (AMG's +M5's +M6) all the time without any problems whatsoever. We just had a meet this sunday which went very well.

So guys keep the gun powder dry
Cheers

 

+1

 

i wish, sincerely wish we had some m5 m6 guys that would come out to drive in my area, Im jealous

 

Wait til Ed and John get their M5's back from the body shop. We will get plenty of vids showing real life encounters. GUstav will **** his pants when he sees it. Lets see who can predict the length of time it takes Gustav to delete the thread after its posted

 

HEy Gustav why did the brake light on the Viper turned on?

 

It was a reflection and not a brake light. There are some HD frames on the m5board that show the reflectors lit-up in the sunlight. My initial impression was that they were brake-lights too.

 

Gawd is this thread still going ..????

 

I know - It's like stepping in dog poop and smelling it the whole day.....

Someone please scrape this thread off of the shoe of MBWorld.

 

You guys are so damned hypocritical it's ridiculous(You and Kees)! How I'd also love to post some of your confrontational,and unfriendly PM's you've sent me.
Wow! And this guy will be in NY July 21st? Bring the car's out men we are having a visitor!!! Hope he'll be around for some of the famous runs and he can record away.

 

I would love t omayeb drive a highly modded E55 Im open for it

 

how does it feel to go thru this period in life where youre not liked on any board and even your own board member doubt your endeavors, sad existence you live

 

Let me guess: you'll run it against a "friend" of yours in a BMW-provided M6, from the the not-at-all-chosen-by-chance speed of 50 km/h, with your parking brake on, right?

 

Yea he's coming to DC too, maybe I'll stop by. I've already put out an open challenge to the M5/M6's on his site and nobody is steppin up I dont mess with turbo M3's because they are true monsters!

 

thank you RussRamz

i like Jidex post. for me it really depends on the driver ive seen a video of a stock s2000 vs 2 f360 on a race track and it amazes me on how the S2000 can keep up. best driver always prevail specially if you have a capable car


" don't hate appreciate "

 

Om my god. I am amazed how agitated many of you Benz guys get from Gustavs event and all this talk about being banned for this and that. Come on guys, is this the way you usually solve problems with other people, do you act like this in real life or is it just all your ego's getting boosted behind your computer screens?? Put down your aggressiveness (goes for everyone) and by asking politely for more info on the vids would get you better responses from Gustav. And don't start with "he did it first". Wy don't you be the first "to turn the other cheek".

I can say that Gustav has posted the same videos on the Scandinavian Mercedes forum and the response is not even close to the one here. Responses are more like, Great job, when can we see more. I am just amazed of how well Gustav has put all this people together for the event and I applaud you for that.

Who really gives a f u c k wether the BMW is somewhat faster at higher speeds??? Excuse my "french"

Cheers to all!

 

Considering you're a newbie I'll be gentle with you. This guy has a history here that you obviously know nothing about. Are you a member of M5board like several of us are as well? I for one like the vids but quite a few of them are questionable. This is a board with AMG enthusiasts so what do you expect. You cannot goto his board with the same rhetoric and propoganda that he comes here with because he becomes very confrontational,ignorant,arrogant,deletes posts and threatens to ban you in public or by PMing you privately. He will also have a ton of excuses as to why his beloved "M" perhaps lost to a competitor(AMG) if you post a video with an "M" receiving a serious beating.
So as a result I think you should know his WHOLE history and other members here who have dual membership and own both BMW's and AMG's before coming around here for the first time with needless banter about what you expect members here to do.. JMOP.

Cheers to you!

 

Amen to that.

Amen! Amen!! AMEN!!! AMEN, BROTHERS, CAN I GET A WITNESS??? :-)

Seriously, borand: I think expecting us all to act like sheep in the face of gustav's egegious behavio (banning members for doing the same thing there that he does here, blatantly fibbing about the reasons for doing it, etc etc etc, not to mention his staging of races such that they start at the exact speed at which the M5/M6 engine's torque is peaking and the E55's are falling off, is somewhat ludicrous.

Have a look at the threads "gustav the hypocrite" in this forum and "here's a nice video for you, gustav" in the kill stories forum for an example of this behavior, and then it might start to sink in.

Also, just curious: did you happen to go over to the m5 board and admonish gustav about his behavior here, or are you only interested in singling out those who get offended by it? Helpful hint: blaming the victim is not going to get you very far around here.

 

Maybe I do not know the whole history (as I am a newbie to this forum and M5board for that matter), I just followed this thread so I am sorry if you feel that I am misinterpreting the situation. Apart from that I am still amazed how involved and agitated people get when seeing there beloved car getting beat in a race and try to find all reasons for this not being possible. For me personally, I am just loving great sports cars, basically no matter what make, but that's my personal opinion. Who is banning who and for what I do not really care, all I am really interested in is getting a friendly atmosphere between members no matter what car you own. And I am pretty sure you all are too.

Actually, in a couple of weeks I will do a race with a colleague of mine who has the M5 E60, we both have stock cars so then at least I will know for sure the "true" story. We will try to do races from both a dig and rolling at different speeds. However I do not have camera to verify it with.

BTW Improviz, must say I love your signature picture

 

Even though I love the airfield event I still think the racersults seen are odd as compared with a real comparison by an objective! mag gives the following results (other mags post similar results). Plus the gear changes in the race for the E55 sound wierd, like in comfort mode???:

BMW Alpina B5 4,4 Limousine E60 - 2005 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 4398 ccm
Aufladung Radialverdichter
PS - UMin 500 PS (368 kW) - 5500/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 4250/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 6/Automatik
Test in sport auto 11/2005
Gewicht 1835 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,4 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,4 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,1 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,6 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,5 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 314 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 37,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 34,4 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.19,0 min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 65,4 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 12,0/24,9/16,7 L/SP
Grundpreis 89.900 Euro (11/2005)
Testwagenpreis 94.910 Euro


BMW M5 E60 SMG - 2006 (Serie)


Motorart V 10 Benziner
Hubraum 4999 ccm
Aufladung Sauger/Euro 4
PS - UMin 507 PS (373 kW) - 7750/Min
Nm - UMin 520 Nm - 6100/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 7/sequentiell
Test in sport auto 09/2006
Gewicht 1858 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,6 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,7 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,2 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,9 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,4 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 35,3 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 35,0 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.16,3 min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
max. Querbeschleunigung 1,15 g
Slalom 18 m 66,6 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 110 m - km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 15,2/22,7/17,6 L/SP
Grundpreis 88.600 Euro (09/2006)
Testwagenpreis 107.661 Euro

Mercedes E55 AMG - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5439 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 476 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 2650/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38,3 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.18,0 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,05 g
Slalom 18 m 61,5 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 20,5 L/SB
Testwagenpreis 99.476 Euro

 

yea, funny how we never see an m6 get an *** whoopin' by a viper video. this video happens to be posted, since it favors the m cars.

 

No in Gustav's world you'll never see a fast AMG. They are only fast in the United States. An M6 take an *** whoopin? Not in his world,not on your life!!

 

projectc55, grow up and creat somethign yourself. Eventually that will happen...

I posteda ML63 vs Audi RS4 where the AMG won, but I am not allowed to link to Youtube fro mbworld adminsitrator, so go and search yourseves.

 

It sure will happen. I'm just too busy in my life doing other productive things while you spend your life posting conflictive videos, taunting and trying to bully folks on the internet! How fun!!

Don't worry we'll have the videos soon young man!!! Perhaps we can even create a few when you reach here in NY! We'll be waiting if not at the airport. Bring all your video equipment!

I would sure love to make a vid of my AMG vs M5Deamon's E39 M5! I left him a post over there on your beloved sight..

 

Lol, so you posted a video of a non-BMW vs a non-BMW, and the non-BMW won, and in your mind this establishes your impartiality??

We have scientifically conducted road tests from both your side of the pond and ours which show that the to-speed numbers for the Apina aren't better than those of an E55k.

Just another in a long line of suspect videos from Gustav, Inc.

 

I do hope I have the pleasure of meeting Gustav here in California. I have a little 65 that wouldn't mind doing some dirty work. It's stock, and I'm willing to bet it would STILL rip into your little "kellener M6".