blackbenzz

That is Divexxtremes 996TT and it is VERY fast! When we do the event at MIR I'll tell him to come play

ROCKETW19

sure just make sure you line up with him! i dont wanna be a poster boy on youtube!

Jrocket

They do,from the seat of an M5!

blackbenzz

Hahahahah! I'll have a few high hp cars to battle against each other. This is gonna be FUN!

red60R

then why does THIS board put up with this bozo......I've only read a couple of posts but he comes off as a serious tool to me, especially if the guy is banning posts on other sites where his little beemer gets spanked......

red60R

lol.....they remove m5 posts when the m5 gets smoked.......too funny......I'm sooooo glad that this site is usually not a "flame" war type site. Actually this is one of FEW the threads I've read on here that seemed aimed at starting s*%t.....no commentary, just a link to the video and a "what's up" smiley face....

Jrocket

Problem is most people here are car enthusiast's and have respcet for the M cars.Some even have both AMG and M cars.I myself might be buying an M5 too go along with the E55.He on the other hand is very narrow minded and childish when it comes to his board,as with a few other on his site.Those people tend to be the ones that bought the M car from a brouchure at the dealer and are completely convinced its the best thing on the road.They tend to hide behind magazine artilce's about their cars and give up more excuses than a politician when proven other wise.There are some decent people on that site,but dealing with his crap is not worth it oo be on that board.

Gustav

Ill be banned if Ill post a video here so I that is censorship

Gustav

No one is banned and the discussio nis going on in the site, however moved to OT.

Gustav

That is why I do real tests with real videos.

S65 AMG vs Kelleners M5 upcoming.

Carrera GT vs S65 AMG upcoming

blackbenzz

I'm gonna say this one more time for you, YOU ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE YOUR DVD SALES WITHOUT BEING A SPONSOR!!!!!

ProV1

first, comparing a Alpina-tuned car to a stock AMG car is meaningless.

second, a fast turd is still a turd. bmw = fugly

Gustav

I wont promote that.

Im telling you about the event

So how can I avoid promiting it? Stop talking about the comparons we had?

Improviz

That's the same thing he did to me when I posted Mercedes videos on his boards last time he was trolling over here....and then he proceeded to censor multiple posts of mine for simply pointing out accurately that his "reasons" for doing so were total BS. He claimed that he had moved the video from his "race stories" forum to the OT forum because it had no BMW content, which was a crock, because 1) there were, and still are, threads in that forum with non-BMW cars; 2) some of those threads were posted by none other than gustav!

Read all about it here:
Gustav the hypocrite!!

Improviz

What happened to his ban? If he's going to troll here and censor us there, I say keep him banned until he plays fair!!

E55 RUSS

I cann tell you what happens with S65 runs against moded M5 580 HP...M5 would start to pull, away after 160...sorry guys...just my best racing buddies all have M5's and M6...

stevebez

Yeah its called gearing ... point is he depicts videos constructed to take maximum advantage of this in his comparos. We know our cars are "weak" >120mph and we know the M's are weak 0-100mph ... So he chooses to show where his cars are stronger ... fair enuf I guess he needs to make up for the fact that in 95% of daily use and encounters his car is at a disadvantage. We tend to concentrate on qtr mile....

How about meeting in the middle and doing a standing 1km dash as I said before ... it should surely be long enuf for the M's gearing to take hold no?

Overall though I think its a real waste he goes to all this trouble of putting these events together and does not do different comparo's... Have to thank him doing this anyway I guess!!

In a 1 mile straight away at an AMG event we got a CLS55 up to the limiter from standstill before we had to brake ... 4 large occupants in car. We did it 4 times - each driver had a go ... good fun ...

We would not have been able to do this in an M as tranny would not have had enuf time to recover...

ChicagoX

START FROM A DIG

.....And I'll buy the bloody vid. Until then, it's a roundel strokefest.

ItalianStallion

Politics aside, very cool videos Gustav.

SleeperX....WTF! If I ever see your car I'm pulling a u-turn and running for the hills

L8Apex

You hit the nail on the head! Even though I applaud Gustav for organizing the event, using rolling starts as the only method of comparison is not the way to go.

Maybe in Europe highway rolls are cool (because they can). In the US hitting 250kmh is not going to happen often (especially in LA). In the states its running from one redlight to the next which clearly rewards cars with a USEABLE torque and HP band ala AMG.

At the end of the day, you can probably assume that in Europe the right weapon of choice (M or AMG) for top speed highway runs is the M cars. Highreving v10 with great gearing works in that scenario. In the US standing starts and quick blast to 100-120mph (who's counting) is the most common scenario for runs (90% of the time).

Which makes me wonder why someone would buy an M car for street duty in the US? Is it because they want a car they can take to the track too? If so, I don't get it. Are they assuming this grocery getter is capable of doing it all? Maybe they like a generalist approach. For me I would want a specialist for each scenario. Example: Street: Big Torque/comfortable/attractive Weekend car: Turbo (of the Pcar persuasion)/ 2 seater/ aggressive Track: (Most would say a Pcar or some other tin top. To me that is a very expensive way to go slow!) Make mine a Radical SR3 or 8 .

BTPower

Fellas, It's all good. I don't thinks it's appropriate for Gustav to post these videos over here and this comes from an M5 owner. I would probably be pissed too but that is the way it goes in E-land. And BTW, Gustav does not speak on behalf of the M5 community....

Out

MiamiAMG

I don't know about all these staged races. It seems that every race that has an M5, starts from a certain MPH at certain speeds, rolling starts, blah, blah.... Always a Perfect Storm scenario. Whatever happened to just racing from a dig? I do know that i absolutely destroyed an Alpina B7 awhile back at some traffic lights, back to back to back. I posted about it a couple of weeks ago.

It also seems that Gustav just can't resist the constant urge to justify owning an M5. Inferiority complex anyone? I've never seen someone go out of their way for so long (years) trying to prove to others why _____ car is better/faster, etc.. than _____ car. The M5 is a great car just like the E55, leave it at that already, jeez. Those who bought one could afford the other, so who cares.

Jrocket

Because in his world there are no stop signs,they dont drive slower than 120mph in every day driving.I know its impossible,but some how he does it?

M&M

Ok so M5's are slow from a stop because they have no torque or something? But this race was with a stock B5. It has plenty torque. The same as an E55 in fact. So why would a rolling start be a disadvantage in this particular case? Don't shoot the dumb troll that is me, I'm just asking a question as I don't follow the logic.

And I believe in good old Sweden the M5's have the 4500rpm Euro launch control so they launch pretty well. Gustav, I know the owners of these fine machinery want to save their drivetrain's & most of the races in Europe are not standing starts but autobahn encounters, BUT, I really think you should do some standing starts as well. Just to make everyone happy. I don't think it will make much of a difference as over such a long distance the more powerful car will inevitably work its way to the front. There's nowhere to hide over a mile. Horsepower will prevail.

SSM AMG

Now you can't tell me the Kellener M5 is going to walk the 65 at any speed. I know the gearing has to be different on the s65. Now cars don't walk each other unless one has 900+ hp.