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Old 06-20-2007, 08:01 PM
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Why is there even a debate ?! Guys i'm very happy with my SL55..nice ride,good looking and power.I did race a B6 convertible from a traffic light, that thing is faster (full stop). Even when comparing M cars to AMG's..they are both fast cars but there is a big difference, M cars are for pure sport enthusiats and AMG's are for people who simply dont have the knowlege in sport driving and racing but also want to feel fast ! I do own a ferrari F430 manaual as well as a Subaru STI modded, they give me the feeling of sportiness NOT the AMG. Regarding the video, i'm usually spanked with my SL and am used to it and happy with it..
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Why is there even a debate ?! Guys i'm very happy with my SL55..nice ride,good looking and power.I did race a B6 convertible from a traffic light, that thing is faster (full stop). Even when comparing M cars to AMG's..they are both fast cars but there is a big difference, M cars are for pure sport enthusiats and AMG's are for people who simply dont have the knowlege in sport driving and racing but also want to feel fast ! I do own a ferrari F430 manaual as well as a Subaru STI modded, they give me the feeling of sportiness NOT the AMG. Regarding the video, i'm usually spanked with my SL and am used to it and happy with it..
What the hell are you talking about. Who let the troll in.

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Want the hell are you talking about. Who let the troll in.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Want the hell are you talking about. Who let the troll in.
WHAT..? TROLL I get it know ( Anything that you dont like is a troll even if it was the hard TRUTH )..How old r u ?!
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Even when comparing M cars to AMG's..they are both fast cars but there is a big difference, M cars are for pure sport enthusiats and AMG's are for people who simply dont have the knowlege in sport driving and racing but also want to feel fast !
Thats one of the dumbest things you've said yet.
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Now you can't tell me the Kellener M5 is going to walk the 65 at any speed. I know the gearing has to be different on the s65. Now cars don't walk each other unless one has 900+ hp.
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WHAT..? TROLL I get it know ( Anything that you dont like is a troll even if it was the hard TRUTH )..How old r u ?!
how old is he? bro i looked at you post history and every dam post you have is sayin how some BMW is better than a AMG. how old are you? its fine to like BMW better but dont have 30 post tryin to be a AMG owner sayin how great BMW is. i personaly think you are a *** and if i lived anywhere near your ****ty *** country id slap the shiit outta both of you.
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Well somehow a Kellener's M6 beat a Supercharged Viper?? Unless the viper wasn't working properly that day, I can't see a Kellener's M6 beating a Supercharged Viper at ANY speed even with the top down!!
Anyone else agrees with me?? Or am I missing something here?? :S

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Old 06-20-2007, 09:26 PM
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To be fair it was over 30 degrees Celsius outside.
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I'm new here but just thought I would pitch in as I am intrigued by this discussion. I am not bias towards BMW(although I do own one, wouldn't it be ok to give credit where credit is due. Although I have not been on this board for long at all, In fact I think this is my first post, The events sponsored by Gustav seem to be rather fair and fun races. I have seen all of them on youtube from the previous meeting they had.

Also although they are starting from a roll if google isn't lying to me 50 km/h is about 30...miles per hour. This is barely over the school zone speed limit. As much can be said in regards to gearing, the cars are what they are. Perhaps if an E63 were compared to the B5 there would be less complaining.

I don't mean to start off on the wrong foot here with the board, as I have recently become obsessed with the E class(E 550 recently came into the family), I figure enthusiasts would be happy to see another tuner car do well.

Perhaps that's just wierd but talking about what would have happened if it were from a dig, etc etc...sound like language typical of AWD car drivers(WRX, S4 etc.) when they lose from a roll on the freeway etc. The "Oh yeah, well from a launch I'd rock you" mentality seems like something AMG drivers should be above.

Cliff notes:
-Give Credit Where Credit is due.
-Enjoy your AMG for what it is.
-Races are in a controlled environment from about 30 mph(50 km/hr) a very real world number
-No More excuses for what could would or should have happened given "X"

P.S. I wanna know what Sleeper has in that car as well.
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geez half of u guys on this board are embarrassing. Gustav races are fair...and u say he doesnt show benzs beating the M. Well i just saw the video posted by the m5 board in which the sl65 destroys the m6 and im sure the video in which the slr races the m6 will show more of the same. I have both e63 amg and m5. You guys need to give credit where credit is due and get over this thing where u think the amg can beat everything on the road. they are both great cars, suited for different purposes.

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Originally Posted by e60m5isbetter
geez half of u guys on this board are embarrassing. Gustav races are fair...and u say he doesnt show benzs beating the M. Well i just saw the video posted by the m5 board in which the sl65 destroys the m6 and im sure the video in which the slr races the m6 will show more of the same. I have both e63 amg and m5. You guys need to give credit where credit is due and get over this thing where u think the amg can beat everything on the road. they are both great cars, suited for different purposes.
Finally an impartial member!!!!!! e60m5isbetter, thank you for showing all the homers on this board that they are an embarrassment to all objective auto enthusiast ....................like you.
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WHAT..? TROLL I get it know ( Anything that you dont like is a troll even if it was the hard TRUTH )..How old r u ?!
This is the kind of s*** that brings down this board. Don't worry about my age but what I could tell about your age is you are some young punk that has too much time on your hands.
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Ok, its official. Gustavs videos are completely bogus! A stock LIGHTER 500hp car was SUPERCHARGED and still lost to the M6
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...=1#post1072408
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Hahaha whatever

Do you think a Viper with the TO DOWN have excellent aeerodynamics? t gets passed at over 120 mph vy a 7-speed Autobahn GT made for speeds ofver 200 mph, this one with a GPS confirmed at 206 MPH on Autobah. And you STILL think a VIPER with the TOP DOWN would be faster OVEr 120 mph

You really need to learn something about aerodynamics, geearing and... BMW!


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Ok, its official. Gustavs videos are completely bogus! A stock LIGHTER 500hp car was SUPERCHARGED and still lost to the M6
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...=1#post1072408
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Ok, its official. Gustavs videos are completely bogus! A stock LIGHTER 500hp car was SUPERCHARGED and still lost to the M6
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...=1#post1072408
Dude don't even try to dispute this madness. Gustav will have an answer for all. M6 beats all
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SDo cna ypu reply to me and tell me why a Viper SC would be faster top down OVER 120 mph

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Dude don't even try to dispute this madness. Gustav will have an answer for all. M6 beats all
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Originally Posted by Gustav
SDo cna ypu reply to me and tell me why a Viper SC would be faster top down OVER 120 mph
Give me the hp/tq numbers on both cars and I'll tell you exactly why. Why the hell did the viper run with the top down anyway? Was that one of your requirements? Did you make all other cars pump 87 octane in order to get on the airstrip or something? Its just obvious man, give it up.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Give me the hp/tq numbers on both cars and I'll tell you exactly why. Why the hell did the viper run with the top down anyway? Was that one of your requirements? Did you make all other cars pump 87 octane in order to get on the airstrip or something? Its just obvious man, give it up.
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that viper was stupid to run up to 250km/h with the top down. it would be a completely different race witht the top up. but i still think that up top the M6 would win... how many gears the viper has? 5?
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SDo cna ypu reply to me and tell me why a Viper SC would be faster top down OVER 120 mph
You know what I give up. This is getting to outright stupid. I belive you that a SUPERCHARGED viper got walked by a M6.
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1. Did you see the video

2. Did you see it happened at 120 mph

3, Did you see it was a Kelleners Sport BMW M6 570 HP confrimed 206 MPH top speed

4. Did you see the Kelleenrs Sport M6 go against the tuend Z06? Yes, about even

So do these 4 points

Originally Posted by Shaun
You know what I give up. This is getting to outright stupid. I belive you that a SUPERCHARGED viper got walked by a M6.
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Originally Posted by Gustav
1. Did you see the video

2. Did you see it happened at 120 mph

3, Did you see it was a Kelleners Sport BMW M6 570 HP confrimed 206 MPH top speed

4. Did you see the Kelleenrs Sport M6 go against the tuend Z06? Yes, about even

So do these 4 points
All your real world video right.
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Im open to watch your videos.

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All your real world video right.
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Originally Posted by SL55 MKB
WHAT..? TROLL I get it know ( Anything that you dont like is a troll even if it was the hard TRUTH )..How old r u ?!
Let's see some pictures of these cars of yours, troll. You've been asked, several times; post them.


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