55 engine VS 63 Perfomance differs in USA than europe AMG
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55 engine VS 63 Perfomance differs in USA than europe AMG
this is the official amg stand on the differnce between the 55 vs the 63 engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaSzJyb08A
this is comparison between E63 and M5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7z1nABPd4
from several posts i read that the M5 is fatser than e63amg which is not the case i tried it more than once !! the m5 is faster than the e55 but not the 63 period
does the amg cars in the usa differ from europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaSzJyb08A
this is comparison between E63 and M5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7z1nABPd4
from several posts i read that the M5 is fatser than e63amg which is not the case i tried it more than once !! the m5 is faster than the e55 but not the 63 period
does the amg cars in the usa differ from europe
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this is the official amg stand on the differnce between the 55 vs the 63 engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaSzJyb08A
this is comparison between E63 and M5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7z1nABPd4
from several posts i read that the M5 is fatser than e63amg which is not the case i tried it more than once !! the m5 is faster than the e55 but not the 63 period
does the amg cars in the usa differ from europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaSzJyb08A
this is comparison between E63 and M5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7z1nABPd4
from several posts i read that the M5 is fatser than e63amg which is not the case i tried it more than once !! the m5 is faster than the e55 but not the 63 period
does the amg cars in the usa differ from europe
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Its hard to say which is fast. I've been told M5 is faster and some say no its the E63 and back and forth. I'm sure the M5 will pull away from a roll, just remember V10!! and E63 V8. Engine size matters but its pretty much the gear ratios. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Its hard to say which is fast. I've been told M5 is faster and some say no its the E63 and back and forth. I'm sure the M5 will pull away from a roll, just remember V10!! and E63 V8. Engine size matters but its pretty much the gear ratios. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Its hard to say which is fast. I've been told M5 is faster and some say no its the E63 and back and forth. I'm sure the M5 will pull away from a roll, just remember V10!! and E63 V8. Engine size matters but its pretty much the gear ratios. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Oh, God will this ever end...........
Ok, on paper all three cars are close.
In real world, the production difference between cars creates different results between street races. Through in driver abilities and ......................
Now add go-fast goodies to 55 and now it is a whole different ball game..........
Ok, on paper all three cars are close.
In real world, the production difference between cars creates different results between street races. Through in driver abilities and ......................
Now add go-fast goodies to 55 and now it is a whole different ball game..........
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Al I can say.. no matter how you slice and dice it..
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
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Al I can say.. no matter how you slice and dice it..
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
E63 M5
0-150MPH
23.3 23.4
0-60MPH
4.2 4.5
Torque
465 383
As far as the STREET. I have raced three of them two were SMG3 and they have lost from 2-5 cars. One of them is a friend of mine and he knows how to drive. We have ran at least twenty times with the E on top 75% of the time.
We even did a 40MPH roll till i hit the limiter at 150+ With the E winning by four cars.
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Oh, God will this ever end...........
Ok, on paper all three cars are close.
In real world, the production difference between cars creates different results between street races. Through in driver abilities and ......................
Now add go-fast goodies to 55 and now it is a whole different ball game..........
Ok, on paper all three cars are close.
In real world, the production difference between cars creates different results between street races. Through in driver abilities and ......................
Now add go-fast goodies to 55 and now it is a whole different ball game..........
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I don't know were your getting those numbers from the E63. Here is the numbers from Autoweek.
E63 M5
0-150MPH
23.3 23.4
0-60MPH
4.2 4.5
Torque
465 383
As far as the STREET. I have raced three of them two were SMG3 and they have lost from 2-5 cars. One of them is a friend of mine and he knows how to drive. We have ran at least twenty times with the E on top 75% of the time.
We even did a 40MPH roll till i hit the limiter at 150+ With the E winning by four cars.
E63 M5
0-150MPH
23.3 23.4
0-60MPH
4.2 4.5
Torque
465 383
As far as the STREET. I have raced three of them two were SMG3 and they have lost from 2-5 cars. One of them is a friend of mine and he knows how to drive. We have ran at least twenty times with the E on top 75% of the time.
We even did a 40MPH roll till i hit the limiter at 150+ With the E winning by four cars.
Autoweek does not test to 150mph. Show me the link please.
I hate to put links up.. but you obviously think the E63 in invinsible.
the times you posted are for a 6 manual.. and I specifically said SMG3
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
I don't care about 0-60 to 0-100... show me trap speed and 0-150.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...45/bmw-m5.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html
look here:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
and finally...show me any respectable american mag article for E63 and E55 trapping 118 and covering 0-150 less than 21 seconds and I'll hand you the keys to my rental property.
I hate to come off as a M5 lover, which i'm obviously not. But just becuase you raced your friend in 1 M5 does not mean the E63 is faster as a whole.
I was at the Fontana event in person and I saw for my own eyes that M5 and M5 trap much higher stock per stock than any E55 or E63.
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Autoweek does not test to 150mph. Show me the link please.
I hate to put links up.. but you obviously think the E63 in invinsible.
the times you posted are for a 6 manual.. and I specifically said SMG3
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
I don't care about 0-60 to 0-100... show me trap speed and 0-150.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...45/bmw-m5.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html
look here:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
and finally...show me any respectable american mag article for E63 and E55 trapping 118 and covering 0-150 less than 21 seconds and I'll hand you the keys to my rental property.
I hate to come off as a M5 lover, which i'm obviously not. But just becuase you raced your friend in 1 M5 does not mean the E63 is faster as a whole.
I was at the Fontana event in person and I saw for my own eyes that M5 and M5 trap much higher stock per stock than any E55 or E63.
I hate to put links up.. but you obviously think the E63 in invinsible.
the times you posted are for a 6 manual.. and I specifically said SMG3
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
I don't care about 0-60 to 0-100... show me trap speed and 0-150.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...45/bmw-m5.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html
look here:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
and finally...show me any respectable american mag article for E63 and E55 trapping 118 and covering 0-150 less than 21 seconds and I'll hand you the keys to my rental property.
I hate to come off as a M5 lover, which i'm obviously not. But just becuase you raced your friend in 1 M5 does not mean the E63 is faster as a whole.
I was at the Fontana event in person and I saw for my own eyes that M5 and M5 trap much higher stock per stock than any E55 or E63.
Your saying two different things. only one is true
1. M5 is faster to 150?(maybe)
2. Now the M5 suddenly traps 118 I assume you are talking 1/4 mile?
M5 does not outperform either the E55 or E63 in the 1/4 mile.
You may have an argument to 150, 186 etc but the M5 is not faster in the 1/4.
There are plenty of video examples from the Euroelites event showing the M5's getting raped on the 1/4 mile drag. M5 is very similar in performance but it is a terrible 1/4 mile car due to launch troubles. It may trap 118 in EUROPE but not here in the USA
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The numbers are from SMG3. Look at your sources( M5 Board & C&D ) What would you expect to find there? I am not here to argue this point but from the street runs i have had with them i see it alot different.
I don't care about 0-60 to 0-100... show me trap speed and 0-150.
Why wouldn't you care about these numbers
Most street runs are within these areas. Trap speed in the quater can be affected buy wheelspin lets see the whole slip.
and finally...show me any respectable american mag article for E63 and E55 trapping 118 and covering 0-150 less than 21 seconds and I'll hand you the keys to my rental property.
The NUMBERS i posted were 23.3 23.4 not 21 seconds.
I hate to come off as a M5 lover, which i'm obviously not. But just becuase you raced your friend in 1 M5 does not mean the E63 is faster as a whole.
I have ran 3 of them not only my friends SMG3.
I was at the Fontana event in person and I saw for my own eyes that M5 and M5 trap much higher stock per stock than any E55 or E63.[/QUOTE]
I don't care about 0-60 to 0-100... show me trap speed and 0-150.
Why wouldn't you care about these numbers
Most street runs are within these areas. Trap speed in the quater can be affected buy wheelspin lets see the whole slip. and finally...show me any respectable american mag article for E63 and E55 trapping 118 and covering 0-150 less than 21 seconds and I'll hand you the keys to my rental property.
The NUMBERS i posted were 23.3 23.4 not 21 seconds.
I hate to come off as a M5 lover, which i'm obviously not. But just becuase you raced your friend in 1 M5 does not mean the E63 is faster as a whole.
I have ran 3 of them not only my friends SMG3.
I was at the Fontana event in person and I saw for my own eyes that M5 and M5 trap much higher stock per stock than any E55 or E63.[/QUOTE]
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"much higher" was a bit too strong.
The M6 was a bit faster than the M5 on that day too.. (The M6 was barely broken in)
I'm officially taking off my "GUSTAV" cape and will stop defending the opposition.
The M5 is slower than a Ford Pinto.
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Al I can say.. no matter how you slice and dice it..
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
stock vs stock
M5 SMG3 is faster.. than E55 and E63..
it traps higher and gets to 150 alot faster..
from a dead stop or 0 to 60 or to 100.. or rolling.. might have various outcomes..
It does not matter. The M5 traps higher.
if so please post us your proof !!!
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the one time I raced an an m5 from 0-110 i got him by 1 car lenthg but i was 1.5 car lengths at 50 mph...
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0-150
and trap speed.
with S M G 3 M5 (not 6sp as someone posted earlier)
again.. find me any CL63, CLK63, E63 or CLS63 trapping higher than M5 SMG3 from a American published car mag or Nation American TV automotive show
0-150 in less 21 sec.
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=0-150
please people.. see this link.
http://www.pbs.org/mpt/motorweek/search.shtml
trapping 117
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ight_line.html
trapping 114.6 vs 113 E63
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._interior.html
trapping 114.9 vs 113.5 CLS55
there all US soil test.. with American editors.
