*** VRP Extreme Belt Wrap Kit ***
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06 E55, 03FORD P/S,01 E320-4M,99 ML320,O4 E55,05 RUBICON UNLIMITED,
Don,
Can you do some datalogging and capture boost, IAT and ignition advance.. Lets make sure the ECU isnt pulling a fast one on you.
Hey Scott,
Glad you got it all figured out.. I would like to get some more feedback on the burnt belt issue.. are you saying the 56" gave too much slack and was causing it to slip and burn up?
I am trying to figure out what problem your custom bracket solved... Was the Aux tensioner bracket a problem to install or did it not line up or something?
Would appreciate your feedback on this.
Can you do some datalogging and capture boost, IAT and ignition advance.. Lets make sure the ECU isnt pulling a fast one on you.
Hey Scott,
Glad you got it all figured out.. I would like to get some more feedback on the burnt belt issue.. are you saying the 56" gave too much slack and was causing it to slip and burn up?
I am trying to figure out what problem your custom bracket solved... Was the Aux tensioner bracket a problem to install or did it not line up or something?
Would appreciate your feedback on this.
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ALL'S WELL AND IT APPEARS TO WORK W/ NO PROBLEM.
Improvement? Thoughts? Power increase? Buellerrrrr? Buellerrrr?
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THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE 56" IS TO LONG AND EVEN WITH THE MANUAL TENSIONER ALL THE WAY OUT THE BELT SLIPPED EVEN UNDER MODERATE THROTTLE,EVERYTHING LINED UP W/ NO PROBLEMS. THE 54" WOULD NOT ALLOW THE TENSIONER TO ROTATE DOWN FAR ENOUGH TO CONTACT THE "PIN" HOLE W/ THE MANUAL TENSIONER. I'M RUNNING THE EVOSPORT PULLEY. THE BRACKET ALLOWS FOR USE OF THE MANUAL TENSIONER W/ THE 54" BELT, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE NOT TO USE THE MANUAL TENSIONER AND MOUNT. NO BIG DEAL THOUGH, ALL'S WELL AND IT APPEARS TO WORK W/ NO PROBLEM.
What does manual tensioner do ???
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THE BELT WAS BROWN FROM NOT ENOUGH TENSION ON BELT, ALSO WHILE UNDER SLIGHT LOAD YOU COULD HEAR THE BELT SQUEAL REALLY LOUD.THE MANUAL TENSIONER PUTS EXTRA FORCE ON THE A/T TENSIONER SO IT DOESN'T DEFLECT AND SLIP THE BELT WHILE UNDER LOAD, IT'S LIKE A STOP SO THE A/T TENS. DOESN'T DE-TENSION. I THINK THE EVO SPORT PULLEY I GOT IS 175MM AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE ASP, I READ IT SOMEWHERE IN A THREAD HERE WHAT SIZE IT IS. AS I SAID BEFORE, I NEVER PUT MY CAR ON A DYNO TO SEE AFR'S BEFORE THE D-WRAP,BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THE UPPER RPM'S SEEM TO PULL STRONGER AND SMOOTHER,ALSO I DID THE EVO PULLEY AT THE SAME TIME SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
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2004 E55 AMG and 2003 C320 4Matic Miss my 993 Turbo above!!
Test Case
I guess I could be the test case. I have the following mods to install tomorrow 8/9/2007:
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland
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I guess I could be the test case. I have the following mods to install tomorrow 8/9/2007:
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland
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06 E55, 03FORD P/S,01 E320-4M,99 ML320,O4 E55,05 RUBICON UNLIMITED,
[QUOTE=higginsbeach;2359174]I guess I could be the test case. I have the following mods to install tomorrow 8/9/2007:
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland[/QU THE BELT KIT DOES NOT OVERLAP ANY LABOR EXCEPT FOR THE BRACKET FOR THE S/C COOLER PIPES(WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL.) I'VE DONE ALL THE SAME MODS YOU'RE DOING ON MY CAR. I ADDED THE BELT KIT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PULLEY SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO PULL THE FAN 2X'S, STILL NOT A BIG DEAL.I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT DOING SOME SOFTWARE UPGRADES.1/4 TRACK TIMES INTEREST ME NOT WHAT THE DYNO SAYS(EXCEPT FOR AFR'S) ON HP,I WAS HOPING TO RUN IT TONIGHT AT SEARS POINT (INFINION) RACEWAY BUT JOB OBLIGATIONS TOOK PRIORITY, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK THINGS WILL WORK OUT.
VRUS 80 mm TB
Phenolic Spacers
EVO Shorty Headers
K&N Air Filters (2)
VRP Complete Belt Kit
I suspect I could install everything EXCEPT the Belt Kit, DYNO and 1/4 TRACK Time, install Belt Kit and REDYNO and REVISED 1/4 TRACK Time.......
Seems like a lot of extra time and expense on my part to go through. My MB guy is going to have everything open tomorrow while he is installing.
Thoughts anyone???
Roland[/QU THE BELT KIT DOES NOT OVERLAP ANY LABOR EXCEPT FOR THE BRACKET FOR THE S/C COOLER PIPES(WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL.) I'VE DONE ALL THE SAME MODS YOU'RE DOING ON MY CAR. I ADDED THE BELT KIT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PULLEY SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO PULL THE FAN 2X'S, STILL NOT A BIG DEAL.I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT DOING SOME SOFTWARE UPGRADES.1/4 TRACK TIMES INTEREST ME NOT WHAT THE DYNO SAYS(EXCEPT FOR AFR'S) ON HP,I WAS HOPING TO RUN IT TONIGHT AT SEARS POINT (INFINION) RACEWAY BUT JOB OBLIGATIONS TOOK PRIORITY, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK THINGS WILL WORK OUT.
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THE BELT WAS BROWN FROM NOT ENOUGH TENSION ON BELT, ALSO WHILE UNDER SLIGHT LOAD YOU COULD HEAR THE BELT SQUEAL REALLY LOUD.THE MANUAL TENSIONER PUTS EXTRA FORCE ON THE A/T TENSIONER SO IT DOESN'T DEFLECT AND SLIP THE BELT WHILE UNDER LOAD, IT'S LIKE A STOP SO THE A/T TENS. DOESN'T DE-TENSION. I THINK THE EVO SPORT PULLEY I GOT IS 175MM AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE ASP, I READ IT SOMEWHERE IN A THREAD HERE WHAT SIZE IT IS. AS I SAID BEFORE, I NEVER PUT MY CAR ON A DYNO TO SEE AFR'S BEFORE THE D-WRAP,BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THE UPPER RPM'S SEEM TO PULL STRONGER AND SMOOTHER,ALSO I DID THE EVO PULLEY AT THE SAME TIME SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
OK...Evo pullies is 175mm ia on outside (ASP 183)...and which size belt did you use ???
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I am going to be doing a few installs on ASP cars so I can see if there is any variation in the belt.. Maybe they used different water pump idler revisions????
We'll have more and more feedback as the rest of the kits are installed.
We'll have more and more feedback as the rest of the kits are installed.
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We will know the results by the end of TODAY...
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Well everything intstalled...Mechanics told ME its fits and lined up perfectly, the only problem NOW....is that there are some NOISE from pullies assembly, sound like belt slipping or something else...54 belt was too small, 56 fitted fine...but not easy...
We are trying for figure out about this noise coming from a pully assembly but not sure yet...
We are trying to USE belt tensioner to tighen the BELT but now sure how much BELT tension is enough ??? Is there any parameters ???
We are trying for figure out about this noise coming from a pully assembly but not sure yet...
We are trying to USE belt tensioner to tighen the BELT but now sure how much BELT tension is enough ??? Is there any parameters ???
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UPDATE...
The noise is just for second like "tick-tuck" when you start to accelerate underload and then disappears...
I was thinking may be its TB opning UP
The wrapped kit assembly has been double checked and they say everything is correct and fitted like it says in intructions...
Anyone has any ideas what could it BE ???
The noise is just for second like "tick-tuck" when you start to accelerate underload and then disappears...
I was thinking may be its TB opning UP
The wrapped kit assembly has been double checked and they say everything is correct and fitted like it says in intructions...
Anyone has any ideas what could it BE ???
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I haven't installed my kit yet. I still don't have instructions. This link doesn't work: http://69.17.158.20/vrus/e55/extreme...nProcedure.doc
Where can I get the instructions?
Where can I get the instructions?
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I haven't installed my kit yet. I still don't have instructions. This link doesn't work: http://69.17.158.20/vrus/e55/extreme...nProcedure.doc
Where can I get the instructions?
Where can I get the instructions?
69.17.158.20/vrus/e55/extremewrapkit/InstallationProcedure.doc
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Why there would be some noises ???
Does this SL55 to which you installed that kit had some noises as well ???
May be I need to tighten the BELT a bit more with a belt tensioner ??? and how would I know if the belt is tight enough or NOT, any parameter or ideas how to check that ???
Here is the link on INSTALLTION PROCEDURE that worked for ME:
http://69.17.158.20/vrus/e55/extreme...nProcedure.doc
I wish Finny who developed that kit would comment on this problem...
