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Old 07-28-2007, 10:01 PM
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If we are talking the same CLK that I am thing of, then it only has a 63 engine in it. How could that beat an SLR?
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Originally Posted by jangy
If we are talking the same CLK that I am thing of, then it only has a 63 engine in it. How could that beat an SLR?
its supercharged
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So, you are talking the older one? Isn't the same as the E55 engine? Either way, I don't think it has 650hp, does it? Personally, I do not like SLRs and would take the CLK any day. I love the body and CF. I was just curious as to performance.
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Originally Posted by jangy
So, you are talking the older one? Isn't the same as the E55 engine? Either way, I don't think it has 650hp, does it? Personally, I do not like SLRs and would take the CLK any day. I love the body and CF. I was just curious as to performance.
the true clk dtm has the 63 motor with a supercharger, i think he told me it was almost 6 to the wheels
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I'd take the DTM any time... LOVE that car!!!

There is go to accompany the show, courtesy of a massaged version of the SL55 AMG's 5.4-liter, supercharged V-8, which now cranks out 574 hp and 590 lb-ft of torque. Modified cam timing, more boost, a stiffer crankcase, and a new exhaust system help to hike power and torque over the SL55's already useful 493 hp and 516 lb-ft. The engine is mated to a five-speed manu-matic transmission.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews..._benz_clk_dtm/

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/m_clk_dtm.asp
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the true clk dtm has the 63 motor with a supercharger, i think he told me it was almost 6 to the wheels

No way. I would have heard of a 63 supercharged. You sure? Got any references? I could understand a 55 tweaked out, since we are doing that on our own.
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Originally Posted by jangy
No way. I would have heard of a 63 supercharged. You sure? Got any references? I could understand a 55 tweaked out, since we are doing that on our own.

See my post above yours... its a 5.5 Kompressor engine thats a bit tuned.
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Yup, I saw. 580ish at the crank. Hmmm, that isn't more than a simple stage III.


But, I do love the looks, etc.
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Originally Posted by jangy
So, you are talking the older one? Isn't the same as the E55 engine? Either way, I don't think it has 650hp, does it? Personally, I do not like SLRs and would take the CLK any day. I love the body and CF. I was just curious as to performance.

+1

clk dtm is a much cooler car...

no offense to people who bought the slr... you just bought the wrong car!


should be faster on a track at the very least.... its actually built to perform...

that, and its like half the price of an slr...
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Originally Posted by way2evil
the true clk dtm has the 63 motor with a supercharger, i think he told me it was almost 6 to the wheels
Nope, 5.5K and 580 at the crank.

I don't know of anyone that has put a CLK DTM on a dyno but it would be fun to see it......
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The outcome is not all that surprising. Go back and get the website off of my 1st post and check it out. You will also see the Veyron destroy the SLR.
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Originally Posted by jangy
No way. I would have heard of a 63 supercharged. You sure? Got any references? I could understand a 55 tweaked out, since we are doing that on our own.
give me a while, ill call my boy
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Thanks, bro. They had some car at the AMG Challenge that looks like the CLK-DTM and it only had the 507hp 63 engine. I don't know of any production MB that has mated the 7g (or variant) to anything too strong.
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+1

clk dtm is a much cooler car...

no offense to people who bought the slr... you just bought the wrong car!


should be faster on a track at the very least.... its actually built to perform...

that, and its like half the price of an slr...
+2 clk dtm is awesome - slr has too much plastic, costs too much for what you get, I'd rather buy a Lambo or Ferrari or Porsche gt
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CLK DTM is also limited production from what i recall and is made by dtm racing division i believe. They are also believed to be working on the next sports car for Mb called the SLC, instead of mclaren
I can not remember his name but the ex Honda f1 driver, the British dude has a CLK DTM , so it must count for some thing
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CLK-DTM AMG = 582hp 5.5L V8K

CLK63 AMG Black Series = 6.3L NA V8

CLK 63 Press car (Bright Orange)= 6.3L NA V8 with less restrictive exhaust = 571hp with 7G Transmission
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Did any of you see the video?

I can't hold it any more the SLR won both times!
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Id still take the CLK anyday over the SLR...
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CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
for those that saw the vids can you give us the low down plz ?
also i have never heard of this orange clk 63 where you get its info from?
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I'm surprised that most Mercedes enthusiasts don't know that CLK DTM and SLR have the same exact 5.5L supercharged engine

SLR: ~620hp, 575lb-ft
CLK DTM: ~580hp, 590lb-ft

The difference in power and torque is due to the different exhaust systems and ecu tune. DTM has less power, but slightly more torque. Overall, it has better power to weight ratio than SLR and is slightly faster. It has gotten much better reviews and most preferred the CLK DTM over the SLR in dual tests. Only about 200 were made, it was also available as convertible.

The orange CLK is a development mule for the new 6.3L engine and is not available for sale.

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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
I'm surprised that most Mercedes enthusiasts don't know that CLK DTM and SLR have the same exact 5.5L supercharged engine

SLR: ~620hp, 575lb-ft
CLK DTM: ~580hp, 590lb-ft

The difference in power and torque is due to the different exhaust systems and ecu tune. DTM has less power, but slightly more torque. Overall, it has better power to weight ratio than SLR and is slightly faster. It has gotten much better reviews and most preferred the CLK DTM over the SLR in dual tests. Only about 200 were made, it was also available as convertible.

The orange CLK is a development mule for the new 6.3L engine and is not available for sale.
hmm you sure they have exact same engine (SLR/ DTM)?
For starters the slr inter coolers are not there on the DTM from what i can see... also i believe this was a separate project by the DTM team, unless you have other info ?
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Originally Posted by Zod
hmm you sure they have exact same engine (SLR/ DTM)?
For starters the slr inter coolers are not there on the DTM from what i can see... also i believe this was a separate project by the DTM team, unless you have other info ?
Yes, the engine is the same according to an EVO side by side comparison between SLR and CLK-DTM (DTM won), except minor differences in exhaust and ecu tune.


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