With all the emphasis the AMG folks are putting on quarter mile times, how come the E63 times are not measuring up to the E55 times, much less the M5 times? Looking at a comparison of posted times on dragtimes.com, all stock cars, the best E63's are running mid 12's with fairly low trapspeeds.

http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

No argument here that the E55 is the quickest of the three in the quarter mile.

Just curious, because it doesn't seem to make sense to me. Why would Mercedes introduce the next generation model as a slower car?

 

You have NO idea of what you just started!

 

without the intent of starting a flame war, the e63 easily measures up to the m5 if you pay attention to da/location. same track, same day and i'd bet e63's take m5's most of the time.

 

+1

...just not the E55s

 

You start this when MBWORLD is under seige by LAMBORGHINI MAN!

63 and 55 are close, M5 has a tuff time vs either and its been debated to DEATH here

 

Not enough people have taken their E63's the the track so far to make a really fair comparison, but overall it seems like the 55k's and M5's are quicker thus far.

 

These type of threads really get ugly, plus as Juicee stated it's MB versus Lambo week so we have to show a united front.

 

I think you should ask AMG - MB, go directly to the source and have them respond with an answer that we can all live with. Just forward your post via email using the following:

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/index2.html

Let's us know what you find out! Thank you,

 

Wolverine, What car do you drive and what is your
best E/T?

 

Are you asking this to see why E63 owners didn't purchase an M5 (like you) or are you upset because we're now using using that favorite BMW phrase "but wait until the twisties?"

 

Done - I'll let you know what I hear.

 

Lambo drivers are just mad they get spanked by the 55s.

I don't blame them. I'd be furious if my Murcielago couldn't outrun a little four door.

 

I am not so sure why Mercedes would come up with a slightly slower engine for a newer model, but I'm sure there is more than just one factor involved in this decision: reliability, durability, and maybe customer satisfaction are a couple of things that come to mind. For example, my local dealer showed me many examples where heat issues from the supercharger (aside from obvious mechanical issues) damaged wiring to certain electronics components in the car, which becomes very expensive and takes fairly long time to fix. So, if you combine the mechanical issues + electronics issues + down-time of the car (which probably upset many people), you'll have a somewhat legit reason why Mercedes went to a NA engine. However, (to me) this is still not strong enough of a reason. And who knows, maybe cost is also involved Maybe the newer engine is much cheaper to build and/or maintain Either way, car manufacturers should improve their product with every new model; they should improve speed, performance, quality, reliability, looks, etc... not just one category. I think Mercedes should have made the 63 engine full 6.3 liter capacity producing 550 to 560 peak horsepower.

By the way, what you are seeing on dragtimes is not a fluke, AMG already stated in the AMG-FEST of 2006 that (on average) the E55 is FASTER than the E63 by 0.2 seconds in a 1/4 mile drag race. Those results are based on their own testing of numerous E55s and E63s. Now this conclusion may change in a 1/2 a mile or 3/4 of a mile drag race. But in the standard 1/4 mile track, it seems that the E55 is in fact a little faster, but then again, this 0.2 second advantage could get taken away quickly if the E55 loses too much traction off the line.

In my opinion, since the two cars are so close, it becomes a driver's race, which is much more exciting anyways...

 

Good analysis - I think you've hit some of the reasons for sure. My guess is the E63 will hold it's own with the M5 in high speed (autobahn runs), and probably outdo the E55 in this area. No question the E55 is a quarter mile beast - maybe the best sedan ever built for the money for that race partly because of it's incredible torque off the line. Nice car to mod easily also.

Maybe because the germans are so focused on autobahn running at speeds that just start at 100 mph, vs quarter mile results, they look at the 63 as truly the faster car.

It really comes down to what you define as 'faster'. The bottom line is this is a great time for sports-sedan enthusiasts. Can't wait to see what the next generation brings.

 

I concur..

 

I would argue as well that the N/A motors are effected far more by bad air. I believe the difference in time is due solely to where and when the testing was done. The head to head matchups I have seen have been won by the car with the better 60 ft. I believe the E63 and E55 identical with the 55 having a slight advantage through 1/8th mile. We will see this fall in good air how much faster the 55 is as more cars will be broken in and more people will run the 63 vs 55 on the Eastern tracks

 

What I see is alot of E63's for sale,come this fall!

 

LOL, yep we are all gonna buy the C63 then add NOS

 

how the heck do u have more posts than me?

 

63>55 numerical values do not lie, empirical, and absolute

 

I dunno? just lucky I guess! lol

I bet your just going nuts waiting for cooler temps and better air in the Sacramento region!

 

Your coming next time!!!

I hate this, now we have FAKE CLS 55 times to deal with check it out and let me know

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-10928.html

4900 DA LOL guy has the fastest 55 stock on EARTH

Siswati is #1 and he is who I am focused ...

 

Soon as the weather is nice,I'll be there!

Where are you seeing 4900 Da for that guy?

 

He lists the track he ran at as Douglas Motor Park IN WYOMING

2nd highest track in the USA just under 1 mile high

 

He also did it in Dec.Had to be WAY cold there in December?

What are you using for DA calculator?

Did you ever buy that hand held weather station I showed you?