W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Renntech toe links kit and adjustable camber bushings.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Renntech toe links kit and adjustable camber bushings.

Does anyone have these kits ???
i just want everyone's opinion before i buy these parts...
is it worth the money>?
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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The toe links are. There are no other options right now, other than custom ones. The camber bushings, I say hell no. They are just like those that floated around a while back from Australia.
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I drive my car very hard and it seems like the inside of my tire is gettin killed~lol so, any other solution to fix my camber since Renntech's adjustable camber bushings are no good? ill probably get the toe links though...
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Adjustable arms.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Hello,

I have the same problem....just lowered and need to fix camber. Where do you find adjustable arms? Yea...I heard that K-MAC from Australia may be the manufacturer for Renntech for their camber kits. And the K-MAC bushings apparently squeak badly. I would hate to have to raise my sweet lowering job!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Darren
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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I would also like some feedback on these...i have a line on a very low mile set and would love some driving impressions.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Asking me about RennTech stuff isn't going to get you a fair answer, but do some research on the concept and make sure that is what you want before you get the bushings from Australia.

The Arms are custom designed and made by an SDCrew member (Lensolo). He made some for the the C-Class (which he has) and we are now planning on trying some parts on the E55. His time is just so limited, but the work and experience is top notch, so I wait. There is so many projects that he could do that we have to be careful to start ones we knock out.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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I put both in a lowered SL 600, it fixed high speed downshift stability issues, holeshot traction problems, and brought rear camber back into specs. It handled like it was on rails before I installed the camber bushings, but it got old having to replace rear tires because they were worn out on the inside. Have your alignment guy put the camber bolts in the front to help up there when you do the rear.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nick 55
I put both in a lowered SL 600, it fixed high speed downshift stability issues, holeshot traction problems, and brought rear camber back into specs. It handled like it was on rails before I installed the camber bushings, but it got old having to replace rear tires because they were worn out on the inside. Have your alignment guy put the camber bolts in the front to help up there when you do the rear.
How much handling did you lose? I am already having issues with the rear end coming out.

The "crash" bolts on the front is a no brainer. I did mine before I picked up the car.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Well, my alignment is back to factory settings, so it drives like it is factory fresh. Granted, it does have a Kleeman LSD and TS-6 wheels, but it handles great. The only changes I noticed were the slightly lower cornering speeds(less camber than without the bushings), and I don't get that unstable waggle feeling on hard acceleration(toe links).
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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My SL had serious issues with stability, actually dangerous for anyone who wasn't prepared to handle it. It dyno'ed at 635 horsepower at the wheels, and obviously that is way more than stock. These mods made the difference of keeping the car and putting a for sale sign on it. Hands down.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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How much handling did you lose? I am already having issues with the rear end coming out.

The "crash" bolts on the front is a no brainer. I did mine before I picked up the car.
Jangy, are you willing to share the alignment specs on your car? I'm going for an alignment in a couple of days and would like your actual numbers if you don't mind. Thanks.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
The toe links are. There are no other options right now, other than custom ones. The camber bushings, I say hell no. They are just like those that floated around a while back from Australia.
the RENNtech camber bushings are actually a lot more involved then just the Kmac bushings.

i have attached a photo.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nick 55
Well, my alignment is back to factory settings, so it drives like it is factory fresh. Granted, it does have a Kleeman LSD and TS-6 wheels, but it handles great. The only changes I noticed were the slightly lower cornering speeds(less camber than without the bushings), and I don't get that unstable waggle feeling on hard acceleration(toe links).

Dude, you lost me right there.

Can you tell any difference in feel on the road? I love the difference when I drop my car and it just grabs so much better. Once in a while, I raise it for a bit and it feels like a boat that way.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by James@Creative
the RENNtech camber bushings are actually a lot more involved then just the Kmac bushings.

i have attached a photo.
Sorry, granted they are more "involved"; but the final product performance is the same. The side effects of the ride are the same and that is what matters. You lose performance and gain road noise. WHY? Actually, don't answer that. You and I have enough history. I deny not that there is a client base for such products, but I just don't know of many.

I have attached a photo as well.

http://www.targatrophy.com/photos/index.htm
Attached Thumbnails Renntech toe links kit and adjustable camber bushings.-rt.jpg  

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to be vague. The SL is lowered by a Kleemann module, and the by-product of that is the camber we are discussing. That camber makes a car handle great in turns, but can make straight line handling sketchy since the car is not riding on as much of the tires. The camber bushings allow you to adjust camber so it can reduce tire wear. Basically, the car is lowered but is aligned to factory specs, so it drives and wears tires like it did before I lowered it. Like I said, it was a very twitchy car to drive(after lowering, before installing toe links and camber bushings), especially over any sort of uneven road surface or when changing from one section of road to another. Now, it is ridiculously fast, and will go where I point it. If you love the way it grips the road now, then drive it hard, and suck it up when you wear out the inside of the tires. I guess it is "pick your poison".

P.S. with the camber bushings, you can obviously change camber to take it to the track one day and change it back once you are done.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Ah Nick, i didn't mean to take it out on you. I was just taking jabs at others through you and that isn't nice, so sorry.

LOL, I understand about the poison and yes, I do choose to swap tires all the time so that I can have that grip and feel.

How easy is the adjustment? Time, complexity? I haven't heard much about ride quality when they are not making any shifts (i.e. track setup). I know that the rigid ride and noise is a product of the bushings (or lack there of), but i just wondered what flexibility thay have?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Speedybenz, me that is, is back up to speed on making the rear camber arms I developed 4 years ago for the serious MB driver.

check out: www.speedybnz.com and then email me at speedyafm2@ol.com

$260 with shipping. No noise and easy to install.

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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 03:02 AM
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Holy ****!! That is exactly what Lensolo's look like and he drives a C43!!

Do you have those for the E?
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Len copied my kit a few months ago. I have been making mine for some 4 years now. Yes I make them for the E's, CLK's, C's, SLK's, W124, and others new and old.

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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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You make them for the SL?
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Len copied my kit a few months ago. I have been making mine for some 4 years now. Yes I make them for the E's, CLK's, C's, SLK's, W124, and others new and old.

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What does you kit do ???
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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The adjustment is as simple as an alignment, and if Speedybenz offers toe links for $260, that's worth a try with the camber bushings. The Renntech parts I put on don't make noise at all.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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The Camber Kit I make solves the rear tire negative camber issue by allowing you to set the rear tires back to stock settings. The cars come with adjustable rear toe adjustment. So by using the Speedybenz camber arms and the stock toe adjustment you can restore the rear tire alignment for much improved tire wear.

I have been making the Speedybenz Camber Arms for 4 years and have sold several hundred pairs. To date I have had only one customer wear out the Heim Bearings on the end of the rods. The Heim bearings are very high quality and last for many, many miles. So he just purchased a new set of Heim bearings and restored the Camber Kit to a as new condition.

As for the SL. Maybe, but you are around only the 2nd guy ever to ask. So right now I do not make an adjustable camber kit for the rear on an SL500 or SL600.

Thanks for the questions.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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