Tires: why PS2s?
10-15-2007, 09:42 PM
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Tires: why PS2s?
Clones: why do we all use PS2s on our Beasts? Are they really the best?
Any thoughts on less costly tires that perform as well? How about Pirelli (sp?) P Zero Neros?
Thanks guys
Kris Keeney
Any thoughts on less costly tires that perform as well? How about Pirelli (sp?) P Zero Neros?
Thanks guys
Kris Keeney
10-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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simple...monkey see, monkey do. no offense to anyone that likes them but a lot of people use them because they're told to and haven't tried anything else.
my toyo t1r's are much better than the ps2's i had before them and the t1r's are almost half the price.
my toyo t1r's are much better than the ps2's i had before them and the t1r's are almost half the price.
10-15-2007, 10:01 PM
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Kris, clone or no clone, I think these tires should be on anyone's car that likes to do this:
On a less serious note, PS2's are the best overall rubber. They are the M3 of tires. Not the best at any one thing but very good at many......wet, dry, ride quality, braking, cornering and quiet.
.............right turn only lane at stoplight; no intention of turning right; only intention is launching ahead straight at the green light; the other "straight-goers" don't lose any position; I just jump way ahead of 'em; no loss to them; big gain to me, BUT perhaps some hurt feelings; oh, and there were no other "right turners" waiting for me at the light;
10-15-2007, 10:07 PM
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Kris, clone or no clone, I think these tires should be on anyone's car that likes to do this:
On a less serious note, PS2's are the best overall rubber. They are the M3 of tires. Not the best at any one thing but very good at many......wet, dry, ride quality, braking, cornering and quiet.
On a less serious note, PS2's are the best overall rubber. They are the M3 of tires. Not the best at any one thing but very good at many......wet, dry, ride quality, braking, cornering and quiet.
Latest reviews put the new Pirelli's on par with the PS2, while there are many cheaper Japanese tires that offer superior dry traction but less wet traction.
10-16-2007, 01:10 AM
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I just switched from PS2's to GS-D3's.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
10-16-2007, 01:17 AM
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I just switched from PS2's to GS-D3's.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
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10-16-2007, 01:19 AM
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pzero neros suck also. the new p-zero is supposed to be realy good. but i love my bridgstone REO1Rs
10-16-2007, 01:43 AM
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I really think that it depends on where you're driving.
Here in North Texas, almost all of my driving is straight line. If I was living somewhere in Connecticut (for instance), the PS2's would be preferable.
10-16-2007, 02:36 AM
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I just switched from PS2's to GS-D3's.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
One reason that I liked the Michelins was the noise level was very low throughout the life of the tire.
I had them on my 911TT and was impressed.
However, replacing the rears after 4,800 miles on my CL55 made me try the GS-D3's. Let's see if I get better wear from them.
So far the GS-D3's are marginally better in the wet than the PS2's but weaker on launch and cornering.
For my driving, wet is a safety issue but launch and cornering are just for fun. Most roads I drive are relatively straight.
I won't be sure about which tire I prefer for another 4,200 miles - that's 6 months of driving for me.
The goodyear is a great wet tire and its actually very good in the dry too but they become just insanely loud when half worn and that makes the tire effectively useless after 5-8k miles.
I think the new big bad tire on the market is the RE050A PolePosition. It is actually better than a PS2 in nearly every way and they cost much much less. There are many many different versions of the RE050 and the "RE050A PolePosition" is the only one that really is better than a PS2. While all look identical the tread compound and core design make the PolePositon version the one to purchase.
I just put a set of PS2's on my SL55 with 19 inch RENNtech monolite wheels and I actually REALLY dislike the tire. There is so much sidewall flex that the car just walks and wiggles down the road when you are accelerating hard. That "wiggle" everyone complains about is really an issue. I have 295 rear PS2's and it is just crazy that this "extra load" tire moves around that much.
My next tires will be the new P-Zero or the RE050A Pole Position.
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10-16-2007, 02:42 AM
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I have had 3 sets of GS-D3's and I loved them for the first 1/2 of the tire life. After that they became the loudest most foul tire I have ever seen. I kept asking for new wheel bearings every service thinking that the car was about to catch on fire with smoking bearings. In the end I took the tires off with 4-5/32nds left of tread and went with PS2's and the car was silent once again.
The goodyear is a great wet tire and its actually very good in the dry too but they become just insanely loud when half worn and that makes the tire effectively useless after 5-8k miles.
The goodyear is a great wet tire and its actually very good in the dry too but they become just insanely loud when half worn and that makes the tire effectively useless after 5-8k miles.
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10-16-2007, 09:43 AM
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I have had 3 sets of GS-D3's and I loved them for the first 1/2 of the tire life. After that they became the loudest most foul tire I have ever seen. I kept asking for new wheel bearings every service thinking that the car was about to catch on fire with smoking bearings. In the end I took the tires off with 4-5/32nds left of tread and went with PS2's and the car was silent once again.
The goodyear is a great wet tire and its actually very good in the dry too but they become just insanely loud when half worn and that makes the tire effectively useless after 5-8k miles.
I think the new big bad tire on the market is the RE050A PolePosition. It is actually better than a PS2 in nearly every way and they cost much much less. There are many many different versions of the RE050 and the "RE050A PolePosition" is the only one that really is better than a PS2. While all look identical the tread compound and core design make the PolePositon version the one to purchase.
I just put a set of PS2's on my SL55 with 19 inch RENNtech monolite wheels and I actually REALLY dislike the tire. There is so much sidewall flex that the car just walks and wiggles down the road when you are accelerating hard. That "wiggle" everyone complains about is really an issue. I have 295 rear PS2's and it is just crazy that this "extra load" tire moves around that much.
My next tires will be the new P-Zero or the RE050A Pole Position.
The goodyear is a great wet tire and its actually very good in the dry too but they become just insanely loud when half worn and that makes the tire effectively useless after 5-8k miles.
I think the new big bad tire on the market is the RE050A PolePosition. It is actually better than a PS2 in nearly every way and they cost much much less. There are many many different versions of the RE050 and the "RE050A PolePosition" is the only one that really is better than a PS2. While all look identical the tread compound and core design make the PolePositon version the one to purchase.
I just put a set of PS2's on my SL55 with 19 inch RENNtech monolite wheels and I actually REALLY dislike the tire. There is so much sidewall flex that the car just walks and wiggles down the road when you are accelerating hard. That "wiggle" everyone complains about is really an issue. I have 295 rear PS2's and it is just crazy that this "extra load" tire moves around that much.
My next tires will be the new P-Zero or the RE050A Pole Position.
I had the PS2 on my M and they were GARBAGE
I switched them for Ds-G3's and loved my car again, now the new hot ticket is the Bridgstone PP, RE050. They CRUSH PS2's in launch mode, atleast in my toys, and they were giving me 0.97 g's on the track, according to my G-tech.
Oh well to each his own just remeber:
As the man said above, it is better to be a wolf for a day then a sheep for a week, SHEEP GET SLAUGHTERED
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And remeber its okay to think OUTSIDE the box
10-16-2007, 10:20 AM
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I too ditched the GS-D3's with half treadlife. They were insanely loud and a few times I pulled over because I thought the tire had gone flat only to discover that the tires where just that noisy. They were good in the wet but were really crappy in deep puddles and made the car feel as if it were hydroplaning.
I have the Bridgestone RE050A's and I love them. They are great in the wet and handle very predictably with very little sidewall flex. The tires are also very quiet. I'm not a big fan of Bridgestone/Firestone after the debacle with the Firestone tires on the Ford Explorer but I gave them another chance with the RE050A's and have been very impressed.
I have the Bridgestone RE050A's and I love them. They are great in the wet and handle very predictably with very little sidewall flex. The tires are also very quiet. I'm not a big fan of Bridgestone/Firestone after the debacle with the Firestone tires on the Ford Explorer but I gave them another chance with the RE050A's and have been very impressed.
10-16-2007, 11:46 AM
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2004 E55 AMG and 2003 C320 4Matic Miss my 993 Turbo above!!
or TOYO RA1's are even a step above same price.......
10-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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damn .. after reading Tireracks reviews/surveys on the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R .. i think this will be my next tire
too bad the sizes are very limited: (http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=1111 )
225/40R18 88W
245/45R18 96W
235/40R18 91W
245/40R18 93W
265/35R18 93W
245/35R19 89W
275/30R19 92W
too bad the sizes are very limited: (http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=1111 )
225/40R18 88W
245/45R18 96W
235/40R18 91W
245/40R18 93W
265/35R18 93W
245/35R19 89W
275/30R19 92W
10-16-2007, 04:56 PM
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10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
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How are the PS2s in comparison to the OEM Conti's? I bought a set of OEM CLS tires for $500 with 500 miles on them.... Any personal feedback on these?
10-16-2007, 05:40 PM
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damn .. after reading Tireracks reviews/surveys on the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R .. i think this will be my next tire
too bad the sizes are very limited: (http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=1111 )
225/40R18 88W
245/45R18 96W
235/40R18 91W
245/40R18 93W
265/35R18 93W
245/35R19 89W
275/30R19 92W
too bad the sizes are very limited: (http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...roduct_ID=1111 )
225/40R18 88W
245/45R18 96W
235/40R18 91W
245/40R18 93W
265/35R18 93W
245/35R19 89W
275/30R19 92W
my next set for my 20inch rims will either be another set of T1rs or ill might stick with bridgestone and get the RE050 pole position just to compare.
10-16-2007, 08:34 PM
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I replaced my Conti's with 6,000 because the rears were worn. I put almost 7,000 on the PS2's and they still have quite a bit of tread left, but I suspect that the grippiest part of the tire's life is gone.
In any event - PS2 is a much better tire.
10-16-2007, 11:18 PM
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IMO PS2 are extremely expensive and overrated, there are much better tire choices out there. I'm not a big fan of Michelin since they tend to be overpriced for what you get... the only michelin tires I like are Pilot Sport Cups R-compound racing tires (on my SLK55 right now)
10-17-2007, 01:46 AM
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Just to help add more fuel tot he mater 
Here are two other tire discussions!
tire disscustion (good)
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...93#post2440593
New Proxes R888's (replacement for RA1's)
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/212496-toyo-ra1-s-about-shot-anyone-running-new-toyos-rear.html
I am now utterly lost because:
The list o far
mine are Firelli Pzero rosso mo 255/ 40 zr 18 (99y) and i am still confused on tires
Here are two other tire discussions!
tire disscustion (good)
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...93#post2440593
New Proxes R888's (replacement for RA1's)
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/212496-toyo-ra1-s-about-shot-anyone-running-new-toyos-rear.html
I am now utterly lost because:
- The god damn tires companies have to go and give them Stupid funky names!!
- mixed voting
The list o far
- Pirelli Pzero Corsa system
- Nitto INVO
- Bridgestone RE050 (Pole Positions vr) beat ps2 (apparently)
- Toyo Proxes R888's (replacement for RA1's)
- and lastly the famous Michelin PS'2
mine are Firelli Pzero rosso mo 255/ 40 zr 18 (99y) and i am still confused on tires
