Well, what can I say... just had some fun with new M5 (dont know if it was mod, but it did have a exhaust, loud) Light to light runs.
run 1.... He launch out of the hole quicker than me. but once I got traction. My wagon pull hard on him. 0-80 1/2 - 1 car length ahead.
run 2.... Second set of light... we both launch evenly.... here is the kicker. 0-80 again. 1-1/2 - 2 car length ahead.

thumb up. he turn his way and I went my way....

Again Veloce ....

What I notice different now...
again this is from butt dyno... I have a schedule dyno for next week.
1. the thottle response is quicker.. almost like a sprintbooster. but not as touchy. very drivable.
2. the Charger seem to come on on lower RPM I feel it around 1600.
3. the Charger is still pulling after 5500k rpm and it pull till 6500k strong. I think redline might be increase. driving too fast to notices.
4. the charger is not jerky anymore. it very smooth.

again this is what I feel so far.
And I like it so far...

sounds great, let me guess no before and after dyno?

Awesome, love seeing a wag kill an m5.

Hm......

schedule to dyno again. next weekend.
Stay tune...... for result.

from my experience the M5 should never be close to the 55 on launch. From a dig a 55 should murder an M5. From a roll the two cars should be close. M5 you ran had LC? Hopefully you dynoed the car prior to the tune?

Wagon is the best,

edit : Great we have a baseline

The other thing everyone needs to take into account this time of the yr it is colder out! my car is so much faster this time of yr. we all know a ecu tune only gives it alittle more hp and all the things the poster mentioned, but take into acct the weather our SC'd engines love this coooooool weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this time of yr w/ ecu plus cool weather you would think you gained a crap load of hp but wait ti'll it warms up a ecu tune only will struggle.

I'm calling more and more BS on this as it goes on. Why? Because the truth seems to be voided and the "image" is still trying to be skewed. Had the truth come out when Jrock started his questions, we may have embraced them as an enthusiast shop. BUT, for anyone to take their car to a shop that "claims" to be fully capable when they are not is like a lie to me. Heck, many of us (including JRock) have little projects going on the side, but you don't see us stepping up and claiming to be the authority in something that we have spent all of a year or so on. I've been dealing with what I think is improper actions by Creative Autoworks. I was actually becomming friends with james, but it was this exact same concern that finally broke that relationship.

Does MBWorld not monitor their Sponsors in any way? Some forums take the reputation of the sponsors very seriously and will not allow them to be sponsors if the members have had enough concerns. The money they pay to advertise does pay the bills, but you also want to maintain the integrity of your forum.

Look Guys... I dont work for Veloce...
I am only saying what I feel... You guy know the 55k better than me..
but until I can get the after ECU dyno I will know the gains. if it only gave me 15hp that great, because I feel it faster. but if the dyno gave a 40hp+ gain. that would be a WOW, you guys should really look into this.... but until then.... please dont step on me.....I do have a baseline dyno..

well if you read it correctly...yes. he used his butt dyno before and after.

What were your baseline numbers 55?

Butt Dyno is a postive .

real dyno numbers will be next week.
and my real baseline dyno is 416/459 rwhp.

I hope it claims to what it is.... or I have just spent too much on it. and could have gotten ECU tune from all other tuner for less $$.

Highest Baseline 416hp / 459tq
10%-12% hum
79-80 degree

lower baseline 413/449

Well, good thing San Francisco. hardly, Hardly goes over 80 degrees. maybe 5-10 times a years...

True, that plus some extra hp from the flash, PLUS the X factor of total reset of ECU settings. Bet it's running like crazy!!

You guys would just be shocked if you disconnected your battery for one night. Whenever I get my car back from a flash it literally runs like it possessed. When I let off the throttle on hard accel, I hear the TB just SLAM shut violently. Everyone always preaches, "It gets better with a few hundred miles", but I have never had that happen. Always gets worse with a few hundred for me. Unless I lived on Laguna Seca Street, I can't imagine anyone really "driving it like they stole it" for 100 hundred miles straight.

Can't wait to finally get some numbers on Veloce. Been some pretty large claims made and we finally will get some before and after dyno #s.

Post um up when you get um Wagon, good, bad or same.....please.

yes that is my same dilemna...i will buy their product if it lives up to the claims. i would actually buy a few...but until i get some concrete results...i will sit on the fence. i can't justify the extra money spent on claims....

I will.... that what I have been say along.....be patients. I will have the answer.

The main reason why I am interested in doing Veloce, is because of the claims. If I can get the HP from ECU, Why mess with a pulley. I am not looking to get the warranty void. I can just flash back if I(knock on wood) blow up the motor. Also I dont need to have the fastest E55 out there. just something more than stock without doing alot of stuff.

You can see that I have Audi S4 Stage3. I drop too much $$ and time into it. Yes it fast, faster than my stock 55. and handle like a dream. I just dont want my 55 to be like my S4, going st1 than 2 then 3.... then car down for months just tuning it...... I am done with all that....

my other 2 car Q7 and CayTT is waiting patiently for the answer... if the claim is true... I will be also doing ECU to both of them.....

wow.....nice collections of cars.....

awesome u got a baseline, for your sake make sure you dyno on the exact same machine if you want comparative results. My comment came from every car from Veloce seems not to have done a dyno yet claim this wild before and after performance claim. It was not a shot at u more so to the tuners to give us more data, they should demand u do a before and after and go so far as setting it up for you in my opinion.

totally agree.... my mistake with my Audi S4 is not having a baseline. I knew and felt every stage is faster. but I never had a real HP numbers, to compare the the tuner claims.

Nice. Waiting to see the dyno comparison.

You will get accustomed to the power of the flash and then you will need the pulley. Power and speed are like drugs.

As Jay mentioned make sure you use the same dyno, same operator if possible.

If you blow up the engine, I bet there is a black box that will store some data and will give you away.

I would think there's more room for error on a flash than on a pulley (with apologies to Jangy).

this is true! most ecu's go into cruis'n around mode cause most people(except me) drive like normal law abiding citz. its when you either get it out on track or reset it and drive it hard right after when you get the best performance out of the motor. its pretty cool.

+1 (what he said)

Best,

RoydRage

55 Wagon, thanks for being one of the first here to try out a newer product and report back to all of us with before and after numbers. Many people do not make that effort and then report. Some jabs thrown here your way are out of line, but rest assured that there are plenty of us here that are waiting for your further report and numbers.

Keep us posted, and thanks again!