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11-08-2007, 02:12 AM
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You name it i've had it or got it...
I agree, Chris (Floored Fab) is awesome. I can't give him a too high of a recommendation. I drove my SLK32 from the bay area to Phoenix to have headers made and it has turned into a much bigger upgrade including headers, custom exhaust, LSD, cooling kit upgrade with remote reservoir in the trunk, oil catch can, interior leather wrap. I had to drive 700 miles but I think it will turn out to be well worth it. Some links to a few pics. Because the SLK has a very large steering box, he had to come up with a pretty innovative design.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1194479529
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...2&d=1194479529
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4&d=1194479529
Here are a few pics, including the headers and a link to a thread with many more pics.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170...nterested.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1194479529
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...2&d=1194479529
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4&d=1194479529
Here are a few pics, including the headers and a link to a thread with many more pics.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170...nterested.html
11-08-2007, 02:13 AM
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agreed...and that goes for you too....you are messing up the wait for the rest of us. that and the fact that since you are so close to me i know have to compete with you...thanks...thanks a lot!!!
11-08-2007, 02:16 AM
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11-08-2007, 02:23 AM
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You name it i've had it or got it...
funny thing was chris was like look if you can convince mike to take his car home and bring it back when the parts come i might be able to squeeze in an exhaust for your sl....lol. i was like hmmmm time to make a phone call....hey mike...umm you mind taking your car home so i can get at least my exhaust done? heheh
11-08-2007, 02:42 AM
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when i dropped it off i was under the impression that the steve's car would be done shortly. now it seems his diff won't even be here until next week.
11-08-2007, 04:46 AM
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Please can someone come up with an equal length shorty with a good collector as an OEM replacement. You will outsell any log style or long tube if you did.... and dont tell me there aint space .....Have you guys seen the header on the M3's motor ? ... friggin work of art ... would love to have something like that fabbed up for the beast... and I would pay good money for it too.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ...
!!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ...
!!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
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11-08-2007, 04:59 AM
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Please can someone come up with an equal length shorty with a good collector as an OEM replacement. You will outsell any log style or long tube if you did.... and dont tell me there aint space .....Have you guys seen the header on the M3's motor ? ... friggin work of art ... would love to have something like that fabbed up for the beast... and I would pay good money for it too.
just because it looks the business does not always mean it is
although i might be wrong
11-08-2007, 05:15 AM
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Well looks might not be everything, but lets face it why put on a CF airbox.... If it looked like a dog - I doubt anyone would even try it, even if it made 10 crank hp.
I cant speak for everyone obviously but for me I would pay up for a true shorty OEM replacement (similar to above) obviously its design would take much longer and the fab would be more difficult etc etc but I am sure it can be done ...
The long tube design is not 100% equal length either and it does need a larger collector. The lengths do seem closer to equal length than the supersprint version. Fitment needs modification of down pipes, removal of primary cat and O2 sensor relocation.... not something I am interested in doing. Please correct me if I am wrong here Vic.
Again my personal opinion... YMMV!
If it looked like a dog - I doubt anyone would even try it, even if it made 10 crank hp.I cant speak for everyone obviously but for me I would pay up for a true shorty OEM replacement (similar to above) obviously its design would take much longer and the fab would be more difficult etc etc but I am sure it can be done ...
The long tube design is not 100% equal length either and it does need a larger collector. The lengths do seem closer to equal length than the supersprint version. Fitment needs modification of down pipes, removal of primary cat and O2 sensor relocation.... not something I am interested in doing. Please correct me if I am wrong here Vic.
Again my personal opinion... YMMV!
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11-08-2007, 10:31 AM
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11-08-2007, 10:57 AM
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i thought equal length headers didnt matter on f/i cars? no?
Please can someone come up with an equal length shorty with a good collector as an OEM replacement. You will outsell any log style or long tube if you did.... and dont tell me there aint space .....Have you guys seen the header on the M3's motor ? ... friggin work of art ... would love to have something like that fabbed up for the beast... and I would pay good money for it too.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ... !!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ...
!!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
11-08-2007, 11:35 AM
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11-08-2007, 11:38 AM
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Long tubes require alot of cutting and welding but they make alot more power.
These particular shorties were installed in 2hrs from what Chris mentioned.
I appreciate the input.
My Evosport headers netted me 30rwhp and 30rwtq when I put them on my car so they are comparative in power to the shorties I pictured here. Of course, I wouldnt replace 1 shorty for another one... But, if I was at the beginning with no headers trying to decide what to do, and I had a dyno that showed the power increase, I would spend $1500 for these.. I think its good value for money and that was the driving point behind choosing to offer them.
For the real horsepower freaks these long tubes is where its at..
I have been working on a version for the 63 with Vadim. We have the flanges... We are working on the headers now..
For the 63 we have: X-pipes, custom filters, phenolic spacers, headers and a tune. The filters are in production. The headers are being worked on.
They will fit on the CLS. The CEL will light unless you extend and relocate the O2 sensors. Sound level is louder but not major.. The mufflers account for most of the sound muffling on these cars so unless you change those, it wont be anything outrageous.
You guys are all going to have to go to the back of the line!!
Chris needs to get my 40 sets of headers and 20 sets of intercoolers built within the next 8 weeks so I dont think you can get anything done until Feb of next year.. hahahahahahahahahahaha....
Its going to be a good 4hr job I would assume. Welding & cutting is required.
These particular shorties were installed in 2hrs from what Chris mentioned.
I appreciate the input.
My Evosport headers netted me 30rwhp and 30rwtq when I put them on my car so they are comparative in power to the shorties I pictured here. Of course, I wouldnt replace 1 shorty for another one... But, if I was at the beginning with no headers trying to decide what to do, and I had a dyno that showed the power increase, I would spend $1500 for these.. I think its good value for money and that was the driving point behind choosing to offer them.
For the real horsepower freaks these long tubes is where its at..
Because it is.
The dyno graph for these show most of the gains are in the very upper end of the RPM band - not that useful for daily driving. Will/would you replace your current Evosport shorties with these?
It would be interesting to compare dyno graphs of the Evo shorty headers on an otherwise stock car with these on a stock car, but at the end of the day, these don't look to be much more than slightly oversized stock manifolds. I'm rather underwhelmed by these since so much of your other stuff has been comparatively outstanding and unique compared to these. Nonetheless, kudos for keeping the stuff coming!
The dyno graph for these show most of the gains are in the very upper end of the RPM band - not that useful for daily driving. Will/would you replace your current Evosport shorties with these? It would be interesting to compare dyno graphs of the Evo shorty headers on an otherwise stock car with these on a stock car, but at the end of the day, these don't look to be much more than slightly oversized stock manifolds. I'm rather underwhelmed by these since so much of your other stuff has been comparatively outstanding and unique compared to these. Nonetheless, kudos for keeping the stuff coming!
For the 63 we have: X-pipes, custom filters, phenolic spacers, headers and a tune. The filters are in production. The headers are being worked on.
You guys are all going to have to go to the back of the line!!
Chris needs to get my 40 sets of headers and 20 sets of intercoolers built within the next 8 weeks so I dont think you can get anything done until Feb of next year.. hahahahahahahahahahaha.... Its going to be a good 4hr job I would assume. Welding & cutting is required.
11-08-2007, 11:40 AM
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Hey Steve... No worries... The equal length is not as critical on F/I cars as someone else said.
For the 63 headers, we are going to look at doing something as close to equal length as possible.
For the 63 headers, we are going to look at doing something as close to equal length as possible.
Please can someone come up with an equal length shorty with a good collector as an OEM replacement. You will outsell any log style or long tube if you did.... and dont tell me there aint space .....Have you guys seen the header on the M3's motor ? ... friggin work of art ... would love to have something like that fabbed up for the beast... and I would pay good money for it too.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ... !!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
EDIT: Not trying to bst yre b*lls Vic - I appreciate all your mods - and have most of them ...
!!! But a header design similar to this one below would sell like friggin hot cakes - and even at a high price I would think. The log one above is a duplication of what we have seen before. Its not really anything different or new. The long tube will have limited appetite since the exhaust needs to be chopped up and the primary cats need to be booted. Not everyone is keen on this degree of modification. Just my 2c.
11-08-2007, 11:50 AM
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Just in case you guys dont remember what these look like installed, below are some shots of the finished product.
MEGA THANKS to Chiromikey for doing all the fitment and testing.. Thanks bud!! I appreciate all the help and input!
The long tubes can be made to mate up to your stock middle section by cutting and welding on a flange..
There will be another option for those who also want a built in X-pipe and high flow cats.. Below you can see pics of the optional middle section which I am having a few made of also. I dont have exact pricing yet, but it will be in the $1400 range when all is said and done.
So, for approx $4,000 you will have a complete exhaust solution that connects to the rear stock mufflers.
If I am not mistaken, Mikey picked up something like (EDIT: I'll get the dyno charts and post them)...
MEGA THANKS to Chiromikey for doing all the fitment and testing.. Thanks bud!! I appreciate all the help and input!
The long tubes can be made to mate up to your stock middle section by cutting and welding on a flange..
There will be another option for those who also want a built in X-pipe and high flow cats.. Below you can see pics of the optional middle section which I am having a few made of also. I dont have exact pricing yet, but it will be in the $1400 range when all is said and done.
So, for approx $4,000 you will have a complete exhaust solution that connects to the rear stock mufflers.
If I am not mistaken, Mikey picked up something like (EDIT: I'll get the dyno charts and post them)...
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11-08-2007, 12:09 PM
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11-08-2007, 12:21 PM
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11-08-2007, 12:33 PM
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I'm super interested in the shorty's (keeping EPA is a plus in California) for the 63. 28 rwhp woould be a very nice gain for 1500 bones... plus I'm sure the sound would be great. Mmmmmm
11-08-2007, 12:39 PM
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iirc, i picked up around 80rwhp on a dyno dynamics machine from exhaust and pulley...but more importantly i picked up 6/10ths and 5mph at the track.
11-08-2007, 12:47 PM
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mikey did you use the ASP pully? if so that is some serious cheep HP for the headers and pully.
11-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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I would like to extend an offer to the first person who replies that is located in California...
I would be willing to offer the shorty headers to you for $1250 INSTALLED.. All you have to do is put out for a before/after dyno. That will give us the hard facts on how much power they will make.
I will arrange through Vadim in SoCal to have them installed for you.
Any takers?
I would be willing to offer the shorty headers to you for $1250 INSTALLED.. All you have to do is put out for a before/after dyno. That will give us the hard facts on how much power they will make.
I will arrange through Vadim in SoCal to have them installed for you.
Any takers?
