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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Roseylv: I picked up 28rwhp from these shorty headers. This can be confirmed by Chris at Floored Fab. where he did a pre install dyno and a post install dyno. In the cool weather I really, really notice the added top end from these. Best of luck and enjoy!
Stop teasing me!
When can I order, when can Vic deliver?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deaguero
Roseylv: I picked up 28rwhp from these shorty headers. This can be confirmed by Chris at Floored Fab. where he did a pre install dyno and a post install dyno. In the cool weather I really, really notice the added top end from these. Best of luck and enjoy!
Deaguero,
Thanks for the info....the #'s sound great!
Just a few more questions; were these numbers achieved on a stock car or a stage 1 w/ pulley and software, or????

Do you have the dyno sheet available to post?

Thanks in advance.
I can't wait for them to arrive.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:34 AM
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28 rwhp for $1500????

Dayam it!!! I told myself I wouldn't do anything to the car but this is makin it really hard!!!
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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We have been doing some testing with different configurations... I am waiting on a final dyno now with ASP pulley + tune + headers to see where the car is at...

More info to follow shortly..
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by vrus
We have been doing some testing with different configurations... I am waiting on a final dyno now with ASP pulley + tune + headers to see where the car is at...

More info to follow shortly..


Well, looks like I have a few goodies to install on the beast!

The Headers look amazing!!!
Thanks Again Victor & Vadim

I will try and make a last minute appoinment for tomorrow or Saturday for Dyno and install

If I can't make it happen, it will have to wait for the end of next week as I'm flying out of town on Suday for the upcoming week.

Keep your fingers crossed for me
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Roseylv
Well, looks like I have a few goodies to install on the beast!

The Headers look amazing!!!
Thanks Again Victor & Vadim

I will try and make a last minute appoinment for tomorrow or Saturday for Dyno and install

If I can't make it happen, it will have to wait for the end of next week as I'm flying out of town on Suday for the upcoming week.

Keep your fingers crossed for me
They look awesome!!!

Post some numbers on the gains once you have everything on!!!
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Quick question: Does it pass Republic of California Smog test?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamG@EVOtech
Quick question: Does it pass Republic of California Smog test?
LOL..With a 100 spot left on the front seat it might.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
LOL..With a 100 spot left on the front seat it might.
Take the heat shields off the factory manifolds and tack weld them to the vrus shorty headers and there is no way the inspector could tell!
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Luckily I smog in Nevada
I think Nevada is less strict than CA
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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How could replacement shorty headers affect smog tests? Cats are still there?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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These are fine. there is no way that anyone could confuse them with the OEM setup. That is the point, get most of the gains and less of the hassle.
The Cats not only must be there, they must remain in the same location that they are in. That is where the shorty header compromise comes into play. It bolts right up. I can't wait to get mine.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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HEADERS ARE BEING INSTALLED AS I TYPE!!!!!!

DYNO TOMORROW MORNING @ 10 AM...STAY TUNED!

p.s Unfortunately, i couldn't get on the dyno this morning. I will be taking it to the same dyno where I got my baseline done with just a kleemann ECU (# in sig). So we will have to compare my baseline #'s to tomorrow's #'s which I believe my car will be stage two....right?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebez
How could replacement shorty headers affect smog tests? Cats are still there?
They will fail the visual part of the inspection.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Roseylv
HEADERS ARE BEING INSTALLED AS I TYPE!!!!!!

DYNO TOMORROW MORNING @ 10 AM...STAY TUNED!

p.s Unfortunately, i couldn't get on the dyno this morning. I will be taking it to the same dyno where I got my baseline done with just a kleemann ECU (# in sig). So we will have to compare my baseline #'s to tomorrow's #'s which I believe my car will be stage two....right?
Can't wait!!!
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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IT'S ALIVE........IT'S ALIVE

Headers and filter have been installed along with the phenolic spacers.

I have only been able to drive the car in my parking garage and can tell you this....
I can now hear the supercharger whine like never before (which to me, is a good thing) The engine is breathing and ready to go.

I will post another reply after some spirited runs on the freeway home from work.....

DYNO TOMORROW AT 10AM.
STAY TUNED
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Roseylv
Deaguero,
Thanks for the info....the #'s sound great!
Just a few more questions; were these numbers achieved on a stock car or a stage 1 w/ pulley and software, or????

Do you have the dyno sheet available to post?

Thanks in advance.
I can't wait for them to arrive.
Roseylv: The car was bone stock before we put the shorty headers on. It dynoed at 427 rwhp before the headers. After the headers it dynoed at 455 rwhp. I am trying to find the dyno results that were e-mailed to me from Chris at Floored Fab.(I recently moved from Arizona to California and I'm trying to locate the e-mail after changing Internet Service providers and e-mail)
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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deaguero:
thank for the info!

Well, All I can say is that I feel & hear a nice difference in the car.

I'm really impressed with the amplified sound of the blower + exhaust

Another nice little tidbit of info is that upon beating the hell out my car for 20 miles, I popped the hood and was able to touch the surge tanks atop of the motor (or whatever those things are called that say, "AMG" on them) due to the phenolic spacers. Previously, I remember after spirited driving, I by accident touched those things and basically burnt myself

Can't sleep, dyno in 9 hrs & 4 minutes

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Well I'm back from the dyno.
I have attached my dyno sheet in hopes that someone can interpret what might be going on.
Am I satisfied with the numbers:::::Sure
Can I feel results from all of my mods::::::Sure
Would I like better numbers::::YES! I wanted to be in the high 470's
I spoke with Vadim and inquired whether or not my ECU needed time to adapt to the new headers. I have only driven the car a total of 40 miles since installing them.
What do you think of the graphs Vadim / anyone?

Also, I may need to recruit Bitourboamg to chime in on what numbers he got from my car (he was the previous owner) with a similar Kleemann setup. If I recall, he was in the 455-460 range as well (which seems pretty weak)
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Rosey,
Did you have the pulley and the tune done after the 11/20 dyno or before?

The 20 degree difference definitely adds hp but I don't know how to calculate the benefit.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
Rosey,
Did you have the pulley and the tune done after the 11/20 dyno or before?

The 20 degree difference definitely adds hp but I don't know how to calculate the benefit.

On the 11/20/2006 dyno, the tune was existing upon buying the car.

Pulley was installed a month or so ago and the headers were installed yesterday.
The weather was another reason I was hoping for some nice numbers!
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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So you gained 42hp with the ASP pulley AND the headers?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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So you gained 42hp with the ASP pulley AND the headers?
That is correct!

My car feels way faster than pre mods. I can assume that dyno's don't lie but I'll have to take the beast to the track and see what kind of improvements I see over my 12.92 run

FWIW,
I took my car to the same dyno as I did 1 year ago for baseline
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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My car feels way faster than pre mods. ...
What you're feeling is the 60lbs of torque that you picked up. That's a big number.
The A/F ratio looks a bit odd, where it rises and falls around 10 from 4,800 to 5,800 rpm's.

Maybe one of the experts can comment.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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but I'll have to take the beast to the track and see what kind of improvements I see over my 12.92 run
Exactly....try her on the track and see what results you get.

You have Johnson running on her correct? Just checking as the ASP officially will make your car a heat monster.

I agree with Vadim about letting the car adapt to the changes.
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