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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon2007E63P30
I have the same problem. The RPMs are just moving too fast and the lag through the system is just too long.

I think M Mode is a better tool for road racing.
Come on guys , When the dash lights turn red in m mode hit the paddle and BOOM perfect shift.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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If you are waiting on a red light to tell you when to shift, isn't it sort of like the car is placating you. "Yes, I know you want to be involved so I will tell you when to hit the button".

I think it will take a LOT of practice to get the shifting correct in M.

Mean while, "S" is giving 3.9 sec 0-60.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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Have you compared 1/4 mile runs in hot and cold weather using the Performance Box? Seems like this would be a fun gadget but its $500. I tend to buy stuff like this, use it a few times, and then it gathers dust.
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:39 AM
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Have you compared 1/4 mile runs in hot and cold weather using the Performance Box? Seems like this would be a fun gadget but its $500. I tend to buy stuff like this, use it a few times, and then it gathers dust.
I know I've done that a few times myself

I've done 1/4 mile testing on the street in hot weather only so far (90 to 105 degrees), which resulted in an average of 12.8 to 13.0 seconds with an average 0-60 of 4.5 seconds. I haven't had a chance to run in cold weather yet, but I will as soon as I get a chance
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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It looks like car had traction control off. I believe the consensus is that E55 launches better with traction control on. Is the opposite the case with the E63?
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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love that video id love to do some runs
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Stunning!

But you should definitely follow Juicees' CLS63 video regarding training your transmission to shift at redline. On the second run, your car shifted well before peak power point in 1st and in 2nd, it did not rev to the redline either. You still need to unlock the 63's potential, but 3.9 0-60 is
Soon I will get new ties, where is this Video? I want to try for a 3.8, I hope I can barrow that thing to see 0-60 (owning one will just get me in trouble making me want to drive crazy all the time)

GO P30 GO!!!

Where to find Juicees' CLS63 video regarding training your transmission to shift at redline?

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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Soon I will get new ties, where is this Video? I want to try for a 3.8, I hope I can barrow that thing to see 0-60 (owning one will just get me in trouble making me want to drive crazy all the time)

GO P30 GO!!!

Where to find Juicees' CLS63 video regarding training your transmission to shift at redline?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il4lFYXYcTU
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Guys, I don't want this thread to turn into "the E63 does 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds" because it does not. The E63 can do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds under certain conditions, but that's not the average. Just 10 degrees hotter will put you back into the 4.1 to 4.2 seconds range, and then 20 degrees hotter on top of that will put you into the 4.4 to 4.5 range, and so on.

Like I said in an earlier post, during last summer, I wasn't able to get anything faster than 4.4 (102 degree weather) and averaged 4.6 seconds using same car, same street, same equipment. When temps dropped to 70, I was able to do 4.3, then when it dropped to 60s, I was able to do 4.1 to 4.2, then when it dropped to below 49 is when we got the 3.9 seconds 4 times in a row

The car is dramatically affected by the hot weather.

That being said, anytime the temp drops below 50, you should go out and race any car you want from 0-60 mph

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Anyone have any idea what a stock e55 runs to 60?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Anyone have any idea what a stock e55 runs to 60?
I think they average about 4.2 seconds, but I've seen some 03 models doing 4.0 seconds on you tube before
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Guys, I don't want this thread to turn into "the E63 does 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds" because it does not. The E63 can do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds under certain conditions, but that's not the average. Just 10 degrees hotter will put you back into the 4.1 to 4.2 seconds range, and then 20 degrees hotter on top of that will put you into the 4.4 to 4.5 range, and so on.

Like I said in an earlier post, during last summer, I wasn't able to get anything faster than 4.4 (102 degree weather) and averaged 4.6 seconds using same car, same street, same equipment. When temps dropped to 70, I was able to do 4.3, then when it dropped to 60s, I was able to do 4.1 to 4.2, then when it dropped to below 49 is when we got the 3.9 seconds 4 times in a row

The car is dramatically affected by the hot weather.

That being said, anytime the temp drops below 50, you should go out and race any car you want from 0-60 mph
Very nice runs, What was your rollout setting set to on the runs?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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Okay, last night the temperature dropped to about 50 degrees, so I decided to take the car for some 0-60 mph runs. I ran 5 times and just couldn't get any faster than 4.08 seconds........ and although those numbers were good, I felt the car could do better.

So Amir (M5_Forever) stepped in and said "let me take a shot at it". He ran 5 times: on the first run he lost traction all the way from 0 to 50 mph and ended up with 4.3 seconds. Then he ran 4 more times, and amazingly all 4 runs (in a row) were 3.9x seconds; the fastest run being 3.90 seconds... I'm surprised how consistent the car is in the cold weather. It's almost like adding NOS to our cars

This was on 91 octane gas, and I feel that 93 or 94 octane would produce even better results

Here is the video, enjoy........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taCQ0sUef10

A little about the equipment used:

I used RaceLogic's latest GPS performance measurement device called the Performance Box. RaceLogic actually makes the actual measurement devices that is used by car manufacturers and magazines (cost 10 to 20 thousand dollars ). This Performance Box is a consumer version, but considered the most accurate consumer-level performance measurement device on the market. It connects to 10 satellites and each take 10 readings per second. So unlike accelerometers, it does not need calibration, and is not affected by car's vibrations, electronics, road conditions, etc......

That is Amazing! Wow

Please advise the settings that the 63 was under when pulling off the 3.9 secs 0-60.

1) Comfort,Sport,Manual

2) Comfort,S1,S2

Thanks
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Nice runs. One thing, it seems weird that when the accelerator to the floor the car would shift at anything other than redline.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ESIX3POWER
That is Amazing! Wow

Please advise the settings that the 63 was under when pulling off the 3.9 secs 0-60.

1) Comfort,Sport,Manual

2) Comfort,S1,S2

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It wasn't the settings, it was mostly the weather conditions. It was very cold outside (49 to 50 F), and humidity was very low as well. Oh, and only 1/4 tank of gas .
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Nice runs. One thing, it seems weird that when the accelerator to the floor the car would shift at anything other than redline.
The 63 shifts up as soon as ESP, TC, detects slip...SUCKS , this is why dyno mode is the only way to maximize shift points. Some have speculated that taking the car to the 7-7200 range may not be fastest. I disagree :-)

DYNO MODE ROCKS!

Hey man you coming out to Fontana??
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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What is the best way to launch though?

ESP on just floor it or ESP off?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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What is the best way to launch though?

ESP on just floor it or ESP off?
ESP off in a 63 you gotta ease into throttle after you roll out then hammer it. Esp on seems to work for the 55,
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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DYNO MODE ROCKS!

Hey man you coming out to Fontana??
Unfortunately not. My schedule is absolutely killing me at the moment. Been spending too much time with my new toy and now got to get my head down to work. Just got tinted and when I get the side markers painted black at Platinum this week I'll make sure to give you links to the pics.

Have fun and be fast
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
ESP off in a 63 you gotta ease into throttle after you roll out then hammer it. Esp on seems to work for the 55,
It actually worked a couple of times on the drag strip with the 63's as well, just not consistently. But I do agree with Juicee on this one, with the 63, your best bet is to have ESP off and modulate throttle.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Unfortunately not. My schedule is absolutely killing me at the moment. Been spending too much time with my new toy and now got to get my head down to work. Just got tinted and when I get the side markers painted black at Platinum this week I'll make sure to give you links to the pics.

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DUDE !!!!!!!!!! I JUST READ YOUR SIG

TWO THOUSAND EIGHT M5!!! WOOOOHOOO

congrats bro
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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do regular e63 without p30 run similar times or is the p30 acutally faster?
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do regular e63 without p30 run similar times or is the p30 acutally faster?

This is weight dependant so a p30 car with pano roof is slowest in a straight line. P30 adds some pounds
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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A P30 does 186MPH
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