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Old 02-14-2008, 07:53 PM
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So, Havoc...what 1/4 mile times and mph do you think your car will be running when all is said and done? Mid to high 10's with drag radials? Mid to high 120's?
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Well, with my next mod "Havoc Stage 2" I should be close to Mid 10's at Low 130's. With the addition of TT's, it depends how much power I can gain. If I can get the power I want, I'll shoot for at least 10 flat at 140. We'll see how far VRP can push my Kompressor...

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Question What ever happened to Ben Treynor?

Speaking of all these super high-powered AMG's, what ever happened to Ben Treynor? He was the first one on these forums to dip into the 10's in his SL 65 Renntech back like what, 2 or more years ago? He of all people should be keeping up with this thread and upgrading his 65 to quad-turbo's also! Does he still post here?

Wonder how popular this quad-turbo upgrade will be as an aftermarket upgrade for used 65 buyers?

Also, is the Black Series SL going to be N/A or FI?
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Originally Posted by SL65amg
Speaking of all these super high-powered AMG's, what ever happened to Ben Treynor? He was the first one on these forums to dip into the 10's in his SL 65 Renntech back like what, 2 or more years ago? He of all people should be keeping up with this thread and upgrading his 65 to quad-turbo's also! Does he still post here?
Bens SL65 never ran 10's There have been only 2 benzes in the country to make it into the 10's without nitrous, one is an SL65 owned by Lou Fishgold and the other is a CL600.
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.... and the other is a CL600.
Owned by the man himself....Jayson hehehe
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Vadim whats the deal, pricing, finished product, post powerchip dyno etc?
I am waiting on pricing for production. Should be here by Monday.

As far as final tune - I need stock 600 and 65, so we can establish baseline and tune file.
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Didn't Ben claim to have run a 10.9?

Anyways this quad-turbo SL 65 should be in the low 10's, right?
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Didn't Ben claim to have run a 10.9?
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Of course I will go for a kit if the numbers are where I want them to be and still be daily driveable. As long as the price isnt unreasonable. I dont have deep pockets
Your sig picture doesn't do justice to your car.
It looks like different colors from seam at the front door to rear of the car.

Maybe it's my laptop screen?
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No, blackbenzz's car is all jacked up. Hahaha! Just like mine. Hey! WTF! If you look at my sig picture, it looks like 3 different shades of silver. I guess it's the way the photos come out on the site. No worries, all of our MBs look far better in person!
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My Thoughts

I personally think that my SL65 is going to run in the mid to low 10s with traps in the mid 130s.

I wish there was a way to get about 1000lbs of weight off of it, then she'd run like the wind.

But, with the weight, I'm thinkin about 10.4 at 135.

Vadim and I are estimating about 850 hp at the wheels, which should put it right close to 1000hp at the crank.

I asked Vadim what it would take to get more hp.

My limits were pump gas and decent drivability.

Well, to get more HP, I will need to get bigger injectors. This causes an ECU tuning issue and a drivability issue, and a HUGE cost issue, plus more potential transmission issues.

So, I've decided to stop pushing it beyond the stock injectors, and will have to see if I feel that I NEED more HP once it gets done.

I have a feeling that I'm going to be pretty happy with what I've got.

Plus, I have another car that will fulfill my "race car for the street" needs. It's a 2800lb 1600hp 6speed 66 Chevy Nova SS Pro Touring that should be plenty quick for the street once it get's done. We're estimating low 8s for this one.

We'll see.
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Well New2this, I applaud you for pioneering the V12 QT VR1000 Project. It takes a guy like you to push the limits that makes moding so cool and keeps us all amazed and in awe at the same time.
Even though your Nova will be faster, your MB SL65 AMG will be a different kind of monster; a VR1000 Monster which will be way more fun to drive.
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Well New2this, I applaud you for pioneering the V12 QT VR1000 Project. It takes a guy like you to push the limits that makes moding so cool and keeps us all amazed and in awe at the same time.
Even though your Nova will be faster, your MB SL65 AMG will be a different kind of monster; a VR1000 Monster which will be way more fun to drive.
Im sitting here wondering how on earth either of you will hit low 10 seconds in California???? I can understand an 8 second nova, but there is no way , none that I have seen here or anywhere else in the world to launch a benz to achieve low 10s pass..JMHO in order to achieve low 10 seconds you will need a 1.4-1.5 60 ft, the trap speeds I can see but not the ET's cars are too heavy and too hard to launch hard
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Originally Posted by New2this
I personally think that my SL65 is going to run in the mid to low 10s with traps in the mid 130s.

I wish there was a way to get about 1000lbs of weight off of it, then she'd run like the wind.

But, with the weight, I'm thinkin about 10.4 at 135.

Vadim and I are estimating about 850 hp at the wheels, which should put it right close to 1000hp at the crank.

I asked Vadim what it would take to get more hp.

My limits were pump gas and decent drivability.

Well, to get more HP, I will need to get bigger injectors. This causes an ECU tuning issue and a drivability issue, and a HUGE cost issue, plus more potential transmission issues.

So, I've decided to stop pushing it beyond the stock injectors, and will have to see if I feel that I NEED more HP once it gets done.

I have a feeling that I'm going to be pretty happy with what I've got.

Plus, I have another car that will fulfill my "race car for the street" needs. It's a 2800lb 1600hp 6speed 66 Chevy Nova SS Pro Touring that should be plenty quick for the street once it get's done. We're estimating low 8s for this one.

We'll see.
1000 HP on the stock fuel system?
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Im sitting here wondering how on earth either of you will hit low 10 seconds in California???? I can understand an 8 second nova, but there is no way , none that I have seen here or anywhere else in the world to launch a benz to achieve low 10s pass..JMHO in order to achieve low 10 seconds you will need a 1.4-1.5 60 ft, the trap speeds I can see but not the ET's cars are too heavy and too hard to launch hard
I agree. Low 10's are not going to happen even if one of these SL's reaches 1000 crank HP.

For one, they're very heavy. They're also going to require significant drivetrain mods in addition to the HP. Building big HP is easy. Getting it to the ground at the track is a totally different ball game.
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Hey Havoc

I agree, my SL will be very fun to drive. I have it as my daily driver on decent weather days.

My NOVA will just be a weekend screamer down the blvd with my wife. So, with her, there won't be much screaming of the engine, more screaming from her. Plus it'll be a car show queen.

So, my SL, I obviously plan on keeping it for a while to get my mod dollars worth out of it. So, it will just be fun to drive, and dink around with.

I'm excited.
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Originally Posted by G55K
I agree. Low 10's are not going to happen even if one of these SL's reaches 1000 crank HP.

For one, they're very heavy. They're also going to require significant drivetrain mods in addition to the HP. Building big HP is easy. Getting it to the ground at the track is a totally different ball game.
The drive train will be moded to handle the added stress and the fuel is covered so neither is currently an issue.
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Hey G55k

I agree that it's going to be tough, and to be honest, I'm not building the car for the drag strip.

But, there will be extensive mods done to the suspension, and transmission.

With all that said, it would be tough to have a 4500 stall, rev the ***** out of it, and have slicks, and launch hard with my $250k car. Just to say that I have the fastest SL out there.

So, THEORETICALLY, I think it would be possible, but I don't know if I want to risk thrashing my ride, just to prove it.

I don't have my Nova set up for the strip either. Obviously with the 6 speed. But, I don't have it tubbed, or the suspension set up or wheelie bars, etc. It's a pro touring setup. Just a nice stiff, slammed, 20" wheels and tires all the way around, 4 wheel disc etc. But, I could THEORETICALLY run 8s if I did do those mods to it. But, like I said, it's not set up that way.
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The drive train will be moded to handle the added stress and the fuel is covered so neither is currently an issue.

What's being done to the drive train and the fuel system?

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Originally Posted by New2this
I agree that it's going to be tough, and to be honest, I'm not building the car for the drag strip.

But, there will be extensive mods done to the suspension, and transmission.

With all that said, it would be tough to have a 4500 stall, rev the ***** out of it, and have slicks, and launch hard with my $250k car. Just to say that I have the fastest SL out there.

So, THEORETICALLY, I think it would be possible, but I don't know if I want to risk thrashing my ride, just to prove it.

I don't have my Nova set up for the strip either. Obviously with the 6 speed. But, I don't have it tubbed, or the suspension set up or wheelie bars, etc. It's a pro touring setup. Just a nice stiff, slammed, 20" wheels and tires all the way around, 4 wheel disc etc. But, I could THEORETICALLY run 8s if I did do those mods to it. But, like I said, it's not set up that way.
I gotcha. It does sound like a fun project. Good luck with it!
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Im sitting here wondering how on earth either of you will hit low 10 seconds in California???? I can understand an 8 second nova, but there is no way , none that I have seen here or anywhere else in the world to launch a benz to achieve low 10s pass..JMHO in order to achieve low 10 seconds you will need a 1.4-1.5 60 ft, the trap speeds I can see but not the ET's cars are too heavy and too hard to launch hard
I think with enough practice and the right launch a 1.5 ET is definitely doable. Jay's 600 was able to achieve a 1.6sixty footer and hit 10.9 so I am guessing the 65 with much more power should be able to pull it off. I see at least low to mid 10's at 130+.
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Originally Posted by G55K
What's being done to the drive train and the fuel system?
I'm installing the VRP Bullet Transmission which is rated to handle 1,200lb/ft of torque and we can also upgrade it later if necessary. I have a 12 bolt rear end which should be strong enough and if not we’ll beef her up as well.
The stock fuel system is rated for high hp so for now no upgrade is needed.
I won’t really know if we have an unknown weak link until it’s all together and we start testing it out. But for now, we’re covering all of the major hurdles.


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