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Old 12-19-2007, 11:03 AM
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It's definitely putting down a lot more than 470 hp. No way a 3800 lb car puts down these kind of numbers unless its running north of 500 hp. I'll guess once owners dyno these cars, they're running over 500 hp crank.
That's why I am suspicious of the reported numbers so far. The Turbo Supras that were being magazine tested were running way too quickly for a car with only 320 hp. A bit later, it was revealed that the test samples were running a few pounds of extra boost.

I would not at all be shocked if these initial test cars are also tuned a bit on the aggresive side to generate all this free publicity.
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I don't care if it does 0-60 in 2 seconds flat and can launch you into space. It's still one of the ugliest performance cars out there.
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I would not at all be shocked if these initial test cars are also tuned a bit on the aggresive side to generate all this free publicity.
wishful thinking...its a SKYLINE! The car makes 482hp to the wheels
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The performance is obscene, but he car is hideous, imho. I'll take a GT3 any day over the GTR.
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wow...this skyline is just fugly..............

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I love the style from 32-34 but this one looks fugly.........
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Originally Posted by wolverine
It's definitely putting down a lot more than 470 hp. No way a 3800 lb car puts down these kind of numbers unless its running north of 500 hp. I'll guess once owners dyno these cars, they're running over 500 hp crank.

These basic V6 engines (think previous Nissan Skyline, or even Toyota Supras) have been tuned to produce over 800 hp. Rumor is that Nissan is taking some extraordinary steps to try and prevent aftermarket tuners from modifying the ECU.
If that was true then why is a Mine's version coming to north america?
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Although this car is insanely fast...its just as ugly!!!! Also, one of the main reason the Skyline never made it to the US was the reason that no one really wanted to 90K for a nissan!!!! Peeps rolling with that kind of dough would rather spend another 25K or so on a GT3...see who takes home the chic from the bar then!!!! (faster than the nissan goes 0-60) lol They had a better shot releasing it as an Infinity to justify price tag...but what do I know, Im into Germans!!!
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Originally Posted by wolverine
It's definitely putting down a lot more than 470 hp. No way a 3800 lb car puts down these kind of numbers unless its running north of 500 hp. I'll guess once owners dyno these cars, they're running over 500 hp crank.

These basic V6 engines (think previous Nissan Skyline, or even Toyota Supras) have been tuned to produce over 800 hp. Rumor is that Nissan is taking some extraordinary steps to try and prevent aftermarket tuners from modifying the ECU.
I had the same thoughts but...

The review states that without launch control it gets a 0-60 time of 4.0 and that sounds right. The M6 is 3800lbs as well but with way less torque and no AWD, it gets around 4.4sec.

It's LC is the ****...

500crank hp does seem more fitting though, we'll see.
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I dont know how can you say its ugly guys? Or I need my eyes to be examined. I think it looks unique and beautiful. And i Never liked or had a japanese car!
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
I dont know how can you say its ugly guys? Or I need my eyes to be examined. I think it looks unique and beautiful. And i Never liked or had a japanese car!

It really looks like a cheap Japanese coupe......is not just fugly, is butt fugly. no style, no character at all.
numbers are impressive though.
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looks like a Hyndai Tiburon on roids.....
Old 12-19-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
wait and see what the 2nd or 3rd generation do??? the r35 will be the 11th generation skyline so there's no need to wait for anything since the gt-r's capabilities and heritage are already more than well proven.
Yes but for me this is a radical departure from previous Skylines. They have now gone to a V6 instead of an Inline 6.

Also regarding the Ecu ... my understanding is as someone else posted. They are tracking that someone very carefully and if you tweek the ECU you lose warranty.
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Also regarding the Ecu ... my understanding is as someone else posted. They are tracking that someone very carefully and if you tweek the ECU you lose warranty.
That sucks! You would think they would sell a lot more of them if people were able to tweak them and get big power. I guess the warranty thing makes sense though. They probably don't want to pay to fix a bunch of cars that have been worked over beyond their limits. It would be cool to see a super strong bottom end like the poopras had.
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Yes but for me this is a radical departure from previous Skylines. They have now gone to a V6 instead of an Inline 6.

Also regarding the Ecu ... my understanding is as someone else posted. They are tracking that someone very carefully and if you tweek the ECU you lose warranty.
if you spend $90k on a perfomance car of that nature looking to make it even faster then I doubt you really care about the warranty. Those things will be beasts with minor mods ie boost controler, wg, bigger turbos, intake, exhaust. WOOOOOOOOW


Originally Posted by ramosw15
looks like a Hyndai Tiburon on roids.....


I think there will always be the few people who find it ugly. A lot of people think a lot of Benz's are ugly too. Its just a taste thing I guess. A lot of people think ugly girls look good too...

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More unethical practices by Nissan. I would bet $10,000 that that car is tuned (i.e. more boost). 475hp, 4000lbs and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds w/ 11.6 1/4 mile time? Sure... I guess the laws of physics don't apply to Nissan
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
More unethical practices by Nissan. I would bet $10,000 that that car is tuned (i.e. more boost). 475hp, 4000lbs and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds w/ 11.6 1/4 mile time? Sure... I guess the laws of physics don't apply to Nissan
awd plus small turbos will do that!!!
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
More unethical practices by Nissan. I would bet $10,000 that that car is tuned (i.e. more boost). 475hp, 4000lbs and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds w/ 11.6 1/4 mile time? Sure... I guess the laws of physics don't apply to Nissan
mb did nearly the same thing but i don't see anyone around here complaining about the extra hp.
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These cars are underrated, no different than the "276 hp" R34s. Here is a dyno, they're really somewhere around 540hp at the crank. Link:http://www.nagtroc.com/forums/R35-Dyno-t20782.html

When you take that into account and also consider AWD and launch control mid 11s seems about right. Im not going to speculate on whether or not Edmunds had a ringer, but even if they did I don't think the mass production models will be much slower.

Ive been watching this car for awhile, its getting more an more appealing. Im going to wait and see what tuned versions Nismo comes up with before making a decision. Regardless, its a great car and a great time to be a gearhead.

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E63 P30, CL500 Sport
Does anybody else think, it looks a little like an upgraded 350Z
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the back reminds me of the last-gen Skylines.
i dont think it looks that bad... looks good.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
mb did nearly the same thing but i don't see anyone around here complaining about the extra hp.
Hell no...AWD you lose the advantage at higher speed.
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Does anybody else think, it looks a little like an upgraded 350Z
I'm sure that's what it is based on.
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2005 E55
Originally Posted by hkpooh
Hell no...AWD you lose the advantage at higher speed.
I think what Chiromikey is saying is that MB advertises the E55 as having 469 hp, but we all know it has more.

It is very possible that the GT-R is rated lower than its actual output. We'll find out soon.

BTW - I actually saw a Skyline on the road this weekend with what looked like Georgia plates. Couldn't tell if it was the prior generation or two generations ago. And I was so shocked to see it drive past me that I didn't catch whether it was LHD or RHD.


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