Anyone play with a RS6 in Maryland Today?
12-30-2007, 08:21 PM
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I would think an RS6 would need more than a chip, intake and exhaust to beat a stock E55... especially on the highway... I beat one with the listed mods in my CTS V on the highway, I doubt my CTS V would have beat my E55, the V was not stock. so what other mods are there for the RS6 aside from nitrous?
12-30-2007, 10:18 PM
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I would think an RS6 would need more than a chip, intake and exhaust to beat a stock E55... especially on the highway... I beat one with the listed mods in my CTS V on the highway, I doubt my CTS V would have beat my E55, the V was not stock. so what other mods are there for the RS6 aside from nitrous?
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12-30-2007, 10:27 PM
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Its not THAT fast. I will force him to go to the track with us next time we go but that wont be for another couple months at least (tracks are closed here). This car pulled hard above 120mph. It actually felt alot slower below 100, it really shined up top. Maybe it felt so fast because I havent driven my 55 in a while, or maybe because I was in the passenger seat. I might take my car out one day this week and line em up and see what happens just to gauge how quick/fast it really is.
12-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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my cousin keeps bragging about his friends modded RS-6 in the cleveland area, saying it can run in the 11's and will smoke me... every time I ask him what it really runs, he says he's never tested it....
Its not THAT fast. I will force him to go to the track with us next time we go but that wont be for another couple months at least (tracks are closed here). This car pulled hard above 120mph. It actually felt alot slower below 100, it really shined up top. Maybe it felt so fast because I havent driven my 55 in a while, or maybe because I was in the passenger seat. I might take my car out one day this week and line em up and see what happens just to gauge how quick/fast it really is.
12-30-2007, 10:44 PM
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What does he have done? He definitely wouldnt "smoke" you since I see you run mid 11's. I know if you get bigger turbos on a RS6 it will be pretty fast. Afterall it is a 4.2L V8 biturbo. My friend will probably be doing that soon to his.
12-31-2007, 12:01 AM
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who makes a "bigger turbos" kit for the RS6? I was just looking at forsale a few hours ago for a good price... I think 11's shouldn't be too much to ask with a bigger twin turbo setup, provided it also had a proper fuel system to go along with it.
12-31-2007, 12:08 AM
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I'm not sure off the top of my head but I will let you know tomorrow. I think he was saying something about Dahlback racing (he has a bunch of stuff from them already, he also has a real B5 RS4). I know on the S4's they switch to K04's, RS6 turbos, or GT28's. I'm assuming the RS6 would do well with GT2871's. Will get you more detailed info about this tomorrow.
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I'm not sure off the top of my head but I will let you know tomorrow. I think he was saying something about Dahlback racing (he has a bunch of stuff from them already, he also has a real B5 RS4). I know on the S4's they switch to K04's, RS6 turbos, or GT28's. I'm assuming the RS6 would do well with GT2871's. Will get you more detailed info about this tomorrow.
I also do not see why the RS6 could not utilize the same big turbo setup as the other smaller TT motors in audis arsenal... I would love to see stats of a car with such mods...
12-31-2007, 01:03 PM
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Can anyone give me a few words on whats a B5 RS4? whats the diff over the RS4 I see on the street?
A family member is looking to buy a RS either 4 or 6 so I'd like to know whats the best version...
A family member is looking to buy a RS either 4 or 6 so I'd like to know whats the best version...
12-31-2007, 05:23 PM
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Here is some blurb I found on the net:
"Power came from a modified version of the B5 S4's 2.7 L, twin-turbocharged V6 engine tuned by Cosworth Technology, featuring enlarged intake/exhaust ports on the cylinder heads, turbochargers and intercoolers, new induction and exhaust systems and a re-calibrated engine management system; a six-speed manual transmission and Audi's Quattro all wheel drive system were part of the package. The modifications were enough to bump the engine's power output from the 265 PS (195 kW/261 hp) and 400 Nm (295 ft·lbf) of the S4 to 380 PS (280 kW/375 hp) and 440 Nm (325 ft·lbf).
Even with a curb weight of 1620 kg (3568 lb), the RS4's powerful engine gave it the performance of a sports car. The 100 km/h (62 mph) mark could be reached in just 4.7 seconds and the 160 km/h (100 mph) could be achieved in just 11.6. Brakes were also developed in house by Audi/Cosworth Technologies not by Porsche as with the RS2. It now has 360 mm (14.2 inches) discs at the front and 312 mm (12.2 inches) at the rear gave the RS4 braking to match, needing less than 50 m (155 ft) to come to a full stop from a speed of 110 km/h (69 mph).
After 6030 cars the RS4 production stopped in 2001, although the last several units sold were registered as 2002 models.
North American RS4
The RS4 was never sold in North American however many Audi enthusiasts have been able to modify their S4's with RS4 parts rather easily. The turbochargers, injectors, ECU, MAF and clutch can all easily be bolted onto the North American S4s with no need for any custom fabrication. With these modifications on the lighter S4 sedan the car has been able to accomplish quarter-mile times in the low 12 second range. These times are comparable to those of the Porsche 911 Turbo at the time of the B5 S4."
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much appreciated blackbenzz,
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
12-31-2007, 08:07 PM
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much appreciated blackbenzz,
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
What I meant was form 00-01.5 the S4 was referred to as B5. It could be sedan or avant, doesnt matter.
I only had the S4 for a month so I couldnt really compare the two by first hand experience. Even for that little month it had more problems than my 55 ever had. What I can say is that based on what I've seen (I have lots of friends that drive Audis) they arent as reliable as the CLK55. Boost leaks are a common problem on them. There is absolutley no room under the hood for the S4. To do the timing belt requires alot of work (did one about 2 weeks ago) and if you dont then it snaps and your engine is done. Turbos also go bad on these cars. Cant say much about the RS6 or other cars. Their main advantage is AWD and turbo. I've driven the new S8 with the lambo V10 and it sound sgreat but just doesnt have the power one would expect. It does handle quite nicely for a large car though.
12-31-2007, 08:11 PM
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I was told you can get bigger turbos for the RS6 from Dahlback or MTM. You have to call them (it snot on their website) for more info. I was told its $8k for just the turbos.
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I'll volunteer my services for a side by side run if he needs an e55 to compare it to.
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much appreciated blackbenzz,
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
So its the saloon version thats referred to as a B5. We had those saloon ones here in the RS4 version, never knew they were not in N Am.
blackbenzz would you say that your S4 is more or less reliable than your 55?
Its very cool that you have both so you have first hand experience.
I normally would go for the Merc as I do love them. However we had a 2003 A8 4.2 L Quattro, and that car handled better than our 2003 BMW 735 and 2005 750li as well as all our S classes (non AMG). So what I was thinking is that if they could make their largest saloon handle so well then the S4/6 and RS4/6 must be awesome. I just have no idea as to reliability and ease of maintenance. Is it less accessible than the Merc, for instance to do routine servicing? Do the Audis have known engine issues like the Vanos system in BMW, esp V8 BMWs?
What do you think?
B5 S4 reliable? no way. these are project cars. they always need something. If it is not the turbos going out every 70k miles it is the trans. they are a blast though
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Well that pretty much keeps the Merc in and the Audi out. I guess we should only get an Audi if its new with plenty warranty left. Im glad its more positive towards the Merc though as in truth thats what we want. Im not sure whether we should wait until the NEW E class comes out or not because I believe the price will drop for the W211. Anyone know when in 2008 this will be?
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