W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Drove a M5 yesterday.

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Drove a M5 yesterday.

SMG on p500sport mode.
I am not sure what happend, I punched it many times but the acceleration actually feels weaker than my e63. Anyone drove one before and feel the same? Also, I don't like the way the SMG shift at all, i put it on the most sporty mode.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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A lot of people have complained about the harsh aggressive shifting of the SMG on sport mode but reading the M5boards, it seems like a lot of members love it as well
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Did you press that dumb button that gives you the 'extra' 100 horsepower? That's just so silly! I love the sound of the engine though...
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG Speed
Did you press that dumb button that gives you the 'extra' 100 horsepower? That's just so silly! I love the sound of the engine though...
yes, thats the first thing I do when i start setting the computer before test drive =P P500sport.

I remember that ads........where the guy sepnd time try to change it to p500mode and a AMG took off lol
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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it has no torque...thats the problem
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Although he offered me a chance to drive,I passed&let CylinderHead beat on his M5&rip some sweet donuts before rippin down the road:it sounded real sweet under throttle&shifted very crisply at redline.I couldn't tell which was faster my E63 or his M5,as they're both quick
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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besides the power and styling.. i love the m5 for its transmission.. its more fun than a normal trans like our amgs, but also good in heavy traffic like a normal automatic, love the way it shifts also
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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The car does lack the torque that some of the MB models display,but the M5 is indeed a great car in its own way.Just a different animal than most AMG's is all.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
The car does lack the torque that some of the MB models display,but the M5 is indeed a great car in its own way.Just a different animal than most AMG's is all.
totally agree with you....jus a different animal
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Straight line acceleration, hands down E63. M5/6's are fast, but in a very different way.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MANYCARS
Straight line acceleration, hands down E63. M5/6's are fast, but in a very different way.
Also, don't forget about their very crisp handling
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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If i had to give one up it would be the E63. Love both of them, but the M5 is more of the drivers car hands down.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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M5 rocks you just need to keep the RPM up. Granted it outdrives the AMG any day of the week but the AMG is much nicer looking and have a more user friendly interior and ergonomics. I am getting an 08 M5 very soon.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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NO torque and the styling is YUUUCK.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by III II I I AMG
besides the power and styling.. i love the m5 for its transmission.. its more fun than a normal trans like our amgs, but also good in heavy traffic like a normal automatic, love the way it shifts also
Are you kidding? The SMG in full auto mode is the reason I bought the E55. Sucks in traffic.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Are you kidding? The SMG in full auto mode is the reason I bought the E55. Sucks in traffic.

SMG sucks in full auto mode. I think i used it about twice just to check it out. I do admit you have to get used to driving the SMG, but after you do it does put you in more control with you car than a regular full automatic. I actually like it. The shifts are ferocious in S6 mode.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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did you drive it over 100mph (at a Mexican's lonely road)

that is where the v10, 7 gears will shine.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Less Tourque makes them feel not as fast. if you raced one it is amost a dead heat from a roll (the E63/E55 get the US versions good out of the hole) to well over 100. Frankly, it does not make sense after driving a E and M5 that the M is as fast...

The gearing is the M's best asset, along with the 8,500 (I think) redline.

Personally, I love the hard-shifts (tire scatching) of the M's on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts!

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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I think the AMG is more fun stoplight to stoplight just because of the torque, but that's about as far as it goes IMHO. The M is a much better driving car all the way around. I do think the looks are boring though, which explains why I have a CLS. I can see how the SMG could get annoying in traffic, but it's pretty cool when you are beating on it. It feels like the car is gonna come apart when it shifts in kill mode!
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunny55
totally agree with you....jus a different animal

+2 Car lacks torque compd to the E AMG but still has a fair amount of it...I also agree the exhaust note is very nice.

Hey anyone see the new R&T test of the M3? 114.9 mph traps @12.5 bone stock, not bad for $70k.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RJC
+2 Car lacks torque compd to the E AMG but still has a fair amount of it...I also agree the exhaust note is very nice.

Hey anyone see the new R&T test of the M3? 114.9 mph traps @12.5 bone stock, not bad for $70k.

Those M3 numbers are a bit optimistic. I doubt you will find them on dragtimes for a stock car.

The V10 delivers max torque in the last 3000 rpm of the rev range and when you couple this with a 7 speed gearbox, you will be in the sweet spot of the powerband in WOT acceleration.

Also around a racetrack, you can easily keep the engine in the powerband do neat things like throttle steer. Lots of fun.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by T Bone
Those M3 numbers are a bit optimistic. I doubt you will find them on dragtimes for a stock car.

The V10 delivers max torque in the last 3000 rpm of the rev range and when you couple this with a 7 speed gearbox, you will be in the sweet spot of the powerband in WOT acceleration.

Also around a racetrack, you can easily keep the engine in the powerband do neat things like throttle steer. Lots of fun.

I love my M6 ...but its more of a pre-meditated speeder. I have to plan my attack and then go, versus my old E55 or my 65 where I could and can just commit random acts of speeding without thought.

Ill tell you one thing, people who love to drive in the high rpm ranges will love the S85 engine. Its really a driver involving motor and the benefits pay out enormously if, as T-Bone said, keep the revs up.

I am glad to have both- they really compliment each other (65 vs the M6).
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There are two entirely different philosophies and driving styles at play between the E55/E63 and M5 (the gap is closer between 63 and M, but 55k and M are worlds apart). First of all, the M5's gearbox is specifically designed to work in harmony with the V10. You can't just mash it and go, you have to be in the right gear at the proper revs (6k+ will do).

The SMG requires a lot of attention and a lot of shifting, if you can't accept that, then you're going to hate it. Fine by me, I don't like seeing a lot of other M5's on the road.

On a side note if anybody in the Tri-State wants a REAL test drive, I'll walk you through it.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
There are two entirely different philosophies and driving styles at play between the E55/E63 and M5 (the gap is closer between 63 and M, but 55k and M are worlds apart). First of all, the M5's gearbox is specifically designed to work in harmony with the V10. You can't just mash it and go, you have to be in the right gear at the proper revs (6k+ will do).

The SMG requires a lot of attention and a lot of shifting, if you can't accept that, then you're going to hate it. Fine by me, I don't like seeing a lot of other M5's on the road.

On a side note if anybody in the Tri-State wants a REAL test drive, I'll walk you through it.
Agree 100%... and the SMG is awesome with its lightning fast shifts. I love driving so the car just makes total sense.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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My uncles got an M5 and when I drove it, it felt muchhhh weaker than my E55 when I would smash the gas...but I prob didnt know how to drive it the right way
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