6.3AMG

since when has Mercedes been considered a young mans car? Caddys have come a LONG way since your its been a "grandfathers" car.

Ppower

Depends, do you drive the pope-mobile mercedes? Would you spend the money for it? I think not, because it doesn't represent that which you want. Some mercedes are marketed for that many are not, but caddies up until the last few years have been strictly marketed to old-farts. Just like kipper215 said, "but I am this not old enough to own a caddy." Each to his own, but my generation (X) isn't ready for no caddy or HD Roadking motorcycle, maybe in 20-30 years.

On the flatout performance front, just buy a ZX14 or 1000cc bike if you just want performance vs. money as the factor. Nothing can touch it.

Pp

neveo

has a nicer interior than the z06 and the zr1. i thought that i read it has a smaller super charger with less boost than the one in the zr1. still a caddy or a mb55. i'll stick with my e55...

Wanted a vette since i saw my first split window as a kid. adding a z06 to my family this weekend.

RJC

Wow the car looks pretty darn nice inside and out. With 550/550 and 4200 lbs it should be a pretty darn fast sedan indeed and hopefully it will be put together just as good as it looks. I just would have a hard time owning a "Caddy" however...albeit even one with 550 hp.

skooby

We'll se when this car is on the line, until then it's a hyped-up GM product.

ItalianStallion

Seriously, I just want a baller luxo car with boost...this seems to be the only new one available on the market.

I'm happy I'm on the list at the Caddy dealership as now I have plenty of options.

kipper215

If people are really worried the VR550 package will keep you up to speed.

Hotrod-Realtor

Hey Guys,
The problem with the streetfire video guy's car was eventually fixed. If you watch the video closely it is super obvious what the problem was and why the dealer couldn't fix it the first three tries. The owner dropped the car off at night utilizing their night drop box therefore the technician didn't realize it was the size of the owners ears that was creating a wind vortex that messed up the readings to the Mass Air Sensor.

tommy25000

this was my 04 CTS V, case RE-opened
A cadillac that sounds, looks and does this is always a winner in my book, not to mention the new one is 10 times the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo81h2eQO-0

EUROTEK//AMG

if u want mo powa ...just upgrade to a S/CL/SL 65 or 600 V12TT

ENDSMTG

Yeah, donuts are fun but this is how I do it.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtUH-yekhNM
or even better........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYenWHy9jHA
So bring your CTSV's, Z06 and lets run'em!

P.S.-if you think launching a '07 Z06 is difficult, what do U think is going to happen with the ZR1?

kipper215

the same thing that happened to the guy in the heffner ford GT TT video on the air strip doing 220. you may get away with it one, you may get away with it twice, but all it takes is one time to slip and you'll be on the news like the guy that destroyed that enzo in malibu.

skooby

Stop trying to talk yourself into it, your buying a GM product no matter how you look at it. The street gives no caddy cred but the Z06 and even then your in a death trap.

BlackHammer

Yup, that's right. Lots of talk about the Mustang GT500 whoopin' azz, too and it did not happen. Again, I said "the sprints" and have no doubt the new CTS-V is going to run with some 7-speed SMG/V-10 cars over 100. But, the E's HOOK GOOD out of the hole. A guy on the M5 Forum who got whacked by a E55 out of the hole said it best; "it is like the car is made for street racing".

Comment to the GM dealer (David), too. Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like an unbiased opinion. The exterior of the new CTS-V (and old one for that matter) looks awesome. The interior is more than intersting. Do I see leather stitching on the dash? WOW! LOOKS NICE, LOOKS REAL NICE!

Can't wait to see these and in person. Again, the E will beat it throught the sprints...

T

6.3AMG

some of you guys are funny people.

BlackHammer

LOL! A better description may be "off thier rockers", yours truly included...

TK

Timeless

Pretty much how I feel also. I'll need to see one up close and test drive it to come close to changing my mind.

tommy25000

um just so you knoq we all have E55's here buddy. NO BODY is hating on the raw power of the E55!

Just curious... it sounds like you have a true hate for american cars... why is that? JW, are you French?

LateBrakeU2

Ohio E55 hit the nail on the head-it's 1970 all over again.In ten years we will all be driving smart cars.GM already scrapped their 300 mil DOHC V8 program targeted for the Cad line-it will be powered instead by a V6(sound familiar?)CAFE standards will castrate the whole lot.

My E63 repalced my LS6V,to the person who said they don't handle you've never driven one because you wouldn't have made that statement.Excellent balance,superb braking,and yeah the shifter was like a stick in a bowl of oatmeal what do you want for 50k new?.

Bottom line enjoy it while it lasts fellers,in short time you will be wistfully remembering this thread!

tommy25000

6.3AMG

This is the reason my ZO6 isnt going anywhere!

ENDSMTG

I'm sorry! U R right though! I don't know what it is! I just don't like the history of american cars when it comes to reliability, quality, resale value and in most not all...appearance. They just don't do it for me, and it seems like their R & D groups have very small circles.

rich644

I was dissapointed when I read the story about GM scrapping their new V8 engine program. Does this mean the end for high horsepower GM cars and will this kill any possible threat GM could have posed to BMW and Mercedes?

vixapphire

i've owned two cadillacs and 4 mercedes. for the most part, cadillac quality rivals that of the better benzes i've owned, far as durability and staying power goes. mechanically they're very reliable, and wysiwyg in terms of interior materials (my e55 and sl 500 both look/looked good and aren't all that solidly built on the inside, so it boils down to personal taste). regular maintenance and you'll be as well off as with any other car. bonus: anywhere in the country, you'll be able to find a dealer to fix something if you need one. by contrast, from greater LA/inland empire to albuquerque, and then again from there to oklahoma, you won't find a benz dealer/service along i-40/route 66...

anyone have any ideas about the pricing on this new cts-v? it is one gorgeous car. i've been thinking about selling the sl 500 for an off-lease xlr-v in a year or two (i love the look of those things; like i said, it boils down to personal taste), but this sedan sure is intriguing.

vixapphire

i can't believe you are saying this with a straight face while owning an AMG benz!

i surrendered a ******** after trying for months to get a decent bit of coin for my e55. what planet are you trading off AMG's on? V-series might resell lower, but they first-sell lower too; over all, i don't know whether there's as much of a difference as you'd like to believe.

for instance, i was at keyes MB in van nuys yesterday getting my silver arrow serviced, and they've got an '05 sl 55 AMG with some nice premium features and reasonable miles on it going for $49k on the window. that car was at least $125k two years ago!!!

personally, i think the V-series thing is a serious effort by GM, and with Lutz on board the second generation cars are going to take all the lessons learned in the first-gen and improve accordingly. the non-V cadillacs are pretty shabby in the interior (save for the new cts), but even those have as their saving grace the new center console and steering wheel switch panel design, which is quite elegant and easily on par or beyond what merc is currently offering in their bread and butter cars. still, without the french-seamed leather dash of the V-series, the "rubberesque" dash of the STS and DTS are pretty depressingly cheap and very reminiscent of my 05 E55's rubberesque dash. that 3/4" strip of black wood and chrome was nice, but i expected more on the topside of the dash for my $92k.

ymmv.