BMW's New 7 Speed Dual Clutch DKG Tranny
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Poor poor new M3 owners with the old ( to be hence known trany manual gear box)
but if history is anything to go by then all i am going to say is SMS (was suposed to be the bomb..well it was ,high fauler rate when it was first introduced.
MB 7G lots of them had problems throught the MB line up
lesson learned: dont go for new things until they get the bugs worked out,unless u want to be the gini pig, even then luck is a matter and u might be fine
but if history is anything to go by then all i am going to say is SMS (was suposed to be the bomb..well it was ,high fauler rate when it was first introduced.
MB 7G lots of them had problems throught the MB line up
lesson learned: dont go for new things until they get the bugs worked out,unless u want to be the gini pig, even then luck is a matter and u might be fine
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Can't wait to see how many clutch pak failures there are in this first gen box...not to mention how many motor failures. I hope that's not the case, but every first year car from BMW has had lots of "issues".
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Wow, that is great idea but I'm not sure how it will hold up on a street car!
In our race car tranny which is a sequential, the gear you are shifting into is also preselected. Occasionally you have a part fail and it shifts into 2 gears at once and blows the gear cogs to bits...it is pretty spectacular.
I wonder what happens when an M3 shifts into reverse and 5th at the same time on the highway at 75MPH. Should be interesting!
Likely not possible they way they should have designed it but I bet it can lock two successive gears against each other with a clutch failure which would also product interesting results.
However, kudos to BMW for bringing race car technology to the street. I want one of these puppies in the next M5!
In our race car tranny which is a sequential, the gear you are shifting into is also preselected. Occasionally you have a part fail and it shifts into 2 gears at once and blows the gear cogs to bits...it is pretty spectacular.
I wonder what happens when an M3 shifts into reverse and 5th at the same time on the highway at 75MPH. Should be interesting!
Likely not possible they way they should have designed it but I bet it can lock two successive gears against each other with a clutch failure which would also product interesting results.However, kudos to BMW for bringing race car technology to the street. I want one of these puppies in the next M5!
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As regards the new transmission, saty away from version 1.0. After that, I'm sure it'll be a great success. Not sure how good it will be at skiping gears though seeing as one clutch does even and the other odd. It will be smoother than SMG and open up the car to a wider audience but hard drivers will likely miss the sense of connectivity and brutal WOT shifts.
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Not meaning to be mean spirited but don't know where you got this timeframe from. Won't happen until the model change. Seeing as the next generation 5-series doesn't arrive until 2010 then any possibly forced induction M5 ( which goes gainst the M phiosphy so I hope is false) will not be here until 2011 at the very earliest (three years) but more likely 2012. Here's hoping when the new model does come out they stick to a NA 5liter but ramp up the power to 550bhp. This seems to be along the lines of most current M5 owners thinking.
As regards the new transmission, saty away from version 1.0. After that, I'm sure it'll be a great success. Not sure how good it will be at skiping gears though seeing as one clutch does even and the other odd. It will be smoother than SMG and open up the car to a wider audience but hard drivers will likely miss the sense of connectivity and brutal WOT shifts.
As regards the new transmission, saty away from version 1.0. After that, I'm sure it'll be a great success. Not sure how good it will be at skiping gears though seeing as one clutch does even and the other odd. It will be smoother than SMG and open up the car to a wider audience but hard drivers will likely miss the sense of connectivity and brutal WOT shifts.
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M division generally begin there testing four years before release (E60 V10, E92 V8) so I'm not doubting what you heard. Worth bearing in mind that neither the E39 M5 or E46 M3 had their engines changed mid-lifecycle and the curious tactic of doing so seems to be AMG's suit. As regards FI in a M, I'd be sad to see it employed as there is never quite the exqusite connection to the revs while a jump to say 600bhp is unecessary (though it certainly won't stop me getting one).
