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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Creaking sound in the trunk - not the dead body problem

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it is driving me nuts, a creaking/rattle sound when going over bumps, etc...has been progressively gettign worse with mileage (now 9k). It is not the same problem as the "dead body in the trunk" problem that sound like a thumping noise from the airmatic suspension discusses in earlier threads. I have checked spare and battery to ensure they are not lose, they are not. I have also tried to adjust the bumper stops on the trunnk lid, it made no difference. However, there are also stoppers on the trunk lid that can be adjusted via a hexagonal screw, any ideas if this may do something? Any other ideas.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Hmm, I have been getting some creaking too, but I only tend to notice it at parking lot speeds when the body of the car it being torqued. I hate to think it is body flex.

I will keep my ears open and if I find something I will post.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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had the same problem with my 55 its the sunroof frame, take it to the dealer and they will tighten it.

made the body creek sound go away.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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My car creaks from the B, C pillars and front suspension

Its obvious the unibody of our cars stink and is not torsionaly as stiff as a sports car should be. Another Mercedes undercut in design take a E320 chassis and load in a hugh motor viola a half made sport sedan.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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I also have the Pano roof and I understand it reduces rigidity.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kwaobus
Guys,
it is driving me nuts, a creaking/rattle sound when going over bumps, etc...has been progressively gettign worse with mileage (now 9k). It is not the same problem as the "dead body in the trunk" problem that sound like a thumping noise from the airmatic suspension discusses in earlier threads. I have checked spare and battery to ensure they are not lose, they are not. I have also tried to adjust the bumper stops on the trunnk lid, it made no difference. However, there are also stoppers on the trunk lid that can be adjusted via a hexagonal screw, any ideas if this may do something? Any other ideas.
Yeah...Get that baby in the dealer. If it were an older E55 I might say bushings. But since she is brand new. Get her in there. Who know what might be coming lose.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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From reading all the posts it seems that there are two issues here. We all know about the creaking that the pano roof does with time. That is a different noise from the bushings. I should know, because I have toasted my bushings . I am so ready to replace all the bushings along with the arms. The pano issue, I don't have.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
From reading all the posts it seems that there are two issues here. We all know about the creaking that the pano roof does with time. That is a different noise from the bushings. I should know, because I have toasted my bushings . I am so ready to replace all the bushings along with the arms. The pano issue, I don't have.
This wouldnt happen to be a "metal on metal" creaking sound, would it? If so, I think I found my problem
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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As far as I can tell, my creaking sounds is definitely not from the bushings or the pano roof. It clearly is eminating from the trunk, and it sounds like the trunk lid is not preperly closed, like a tailgate that rattles.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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This wouldnt happen to be a "metal on metal" creaking sound, would it? If so, I think I found my problem
Sure it could, but why are you rubbing? That is what bushings are for. Tell us more or better yet, snap a pic.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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I try everyting in my power not to leave her at the dealer. Always a chance to get scratches or other things on your car while they "handle it with great care". I found dealers to be completely unresponsive when it comes to sounds and rattles, the absolutely don't care. I also had the squeling brakes and I had to convince them that it was not "normal for high performacne brakes to squeal".

Originally Posted by mbamg06e55
Yeah...Get that baby in the dealer. If it were an older E55 I might say bushings. But since she is brand new. Get her in there. Who know what might be coming lose.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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As far as I can tell, my creaking sounds is definitely not from the bushings or the pano roof. It clearly is eminating from the trunk, and it sounds like the trunk lid is not preperly closed, like a tailgate that rattles.
OK not splitting hairs here, but a rattle is usually exhaust, creaking is a bearing/bushing surface. The better your description the more exacting the diagnostic.
When, what speed dose it happen, is it worse as speed increases?
Is there a speed when it goes away?
Have you changed the ride hight?
Is it louder with the car empty or fully loaded?
What makes it worse a right turn or left turn, accelerating or breaking?
Do you have the pano and the folding rear seat, how about the rear sun shade what position open, closed, up, down are they in when you hear the noise?
If you have the trunk closer is it working properly?

Record it and find the frequency and determine what moves/oscillates at that frequency.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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OK not splitting hairs here, but a rattle is usually exhaust, creaking is a bearing/bushing surface. The better your description the more exacting the diagnostic.
1. When, what speed dose it happen, is it worse as speed increases?
2. Is there a speed when it goes away?
3. Have you changed the ride hight?
4. Is it louder with the car empty or fully loaded?
5. What makes it worse a right turn or left turn, accelerating or breaking?
6. Do you have the pano and the folding rear seat, how about the rear sun shade what position open, closed, up, down are they in when you hear the noise?
7. If you have the trunk closer is it working properly?

Record it and find the frequency and determine what moves/oscillates at that frequency.
1. I can hear the noise at low speeds only, and only when the cars body is flexing, i.e., going over a speed bump, pot holes, or tight corners at low speeds. The noise is probbaly there at higher pseeds, but road noise masks it
2. as above
3. Car is stock. I have tired all Airmatic settings and it does not make a difference.
4. Similar noises whether car has one or more persons.
5. slow turns on slopes where the cars frame is being torsioned
6. I have both pano and folding rear seats. Rear seats seem to be fully latched. I have suspected the folding rear seats to play a part here, but cannot figure out how these would make noise unless they were not fully latched.
7. I have trunk closer and it work properly. I have changed the height of the rubber stoppers on the trunk lid (by screwing them out about 2 full turns). This seemed to help a little bit.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
Sure it could, but why are you rubbing? That is what bushings are for. Tell us more or better yet, snap a pic.
I have no idea, all I know is that there is a metal on metal rattle at high RPM, probably because of the exhaust noise, that sounds like its coming from under the seat or the rear headrest.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Drive around with your seats folded down and see if the sound goes away or if you hear it more clearly. When did fold down seats become an option on these? Was it only offered on the 63's?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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1. I can hear the noise at low speeds only, and only when the cars body is flexing, i.e., going over a speed bump, pot holes, or tight corners at low speeds. The noise is probbaly there at higher pseeds, but road noise masks it
2. as above
3. Car is stock. I have tired all Airmatic settings and it does not make a difference.
4. Similar noises whether car has one or more persons.
5. slow turns on slopes where the cars frame is being torsioned
6. I have both pano and folding rear seats. Rear seats seem to be fully latched. I have suspected the folding rear seats to play a part here, but cannot figure out how these would make noise unless they were not fully latched.
7. I have trunk closer and it work properly. I have changed the height of the rubber stoppers on the trunk lid (by screwing them out about 2 full turns). This seemed to help a little bit.
Well I tell ya, things like this can drive a guy around the bend. Like Hazy1 says fold the rear seat open and drive around. I would find a friend to drive around in a parking lot, (that has enough topography to make the creak) so that I could ride in the trunk. That might help to narrow down the location of the noise. I don't believe that the unibody flexes enough to make noise even with pano and no bulkhead behind rear seat. I still hold a suspension component in suspicion as your reference to "torsional" (on roll axis) loads cause the creak.
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I have no idea, all I know is that there is a metal on metal rattle at high RPM, probably because of the exhaust noise, that sounds like its coming from under the seat or the rear headrest.

Ok, that is likely the pipes hitting the heat shield. Just get under there and make sure you have room. you can try to find it by reving and letting go to instigate the rattles. Did you have your resonator deleted?
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Ok, that is likely the pipes hitting the heat shield. Just get under there and make sure you have room. you can try to find it by reving and letting go to instigate the rattles. Did you have your resonator deleted?
no but i have cutouts installed right before the mufflers
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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LOL!! i bet that is what it is. I always end up crawling under the car after any exhaust mods just to adjust the heat shield. It is almost like aluminum foil and you can simply bend it. You will also see a connector between the two sides and you can use the two bolts on it to adjust the pipes.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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no but i have cutouts installed right before the mufflers
AH!!!!! what it is, is the flaps on the cutouts not quite seating right. I found that mine did the same thing. I took them off and readjusted the butterflies. That will take care of it.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kwaobus
1. I can hear the noise at low speeds only, and only when the cars body is flexing, i.e., going over a speed bump, pot holes, or tight corners at low speeds. The noise is probbaly there at higher pseeds, but road noise masks it
2. as above
3. Car is stock. I have tired all Airmatic settings and it does not make a difference.
4. Similar noises whether car has one or more persons.
5. slow turns on slopes where the cars frame is being torsioned
6. I have both pano and folding rear seats. Rear seats seem to be fully latched. I have suspected the folding rear seats to play a part here, but cannot figure out how these would make noise unless they were not fully latched.
7. I have trunk closer and it work properly. I have changed the height of the rubber stoppers on the trunk lid (by screwing them out about 2 full turns). This seemed to help a little bit.
Any luck yet?
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mbamg06e55
AH!!!!! what it is, is the flaps on the cutouts not quite seating right. I found that mine did the same thing. I took them off and readjusted the butterflies. That will take care of it.
the noise was there before the cutouts. when it warms up i'll take a look under there anyways. do you guys think my dealer will bother me if i tell them about the rattle? will they look under the car?
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