Stephen04E55

If anyone was watching the Speed channel last night and saw the show "Pass Time" which aired at 7:30 & 11:00 EDT then they witnessed Lou Fishgold's SL65 running the 1/4 in Arizona. I thought I saw it mentioned here that his run was coming up soon and last night was at least one of the airings of this program. The show consists of a panel of three people which have to guess the car in question 1/4 mile e.t. after asking one question about the car. One of the panel last night was a MB tech from Arizona and he was quite surprised to see the car pull up on the line. The tech said he had an unfair advantage when he estimated the e.t. of Lou's SL65. He estimated an 11.50 and Lou's car ran an 11.13@123.55. The other two on the panel weren't even close and really didn't have any idea what the car had for hp or the cost. The expert on the panel asked, "How much does that car cost?" and the MB tech said "about 180K". Also "How much hp does that car have stock?" and the MB tech said "608hp stock" which we all know is 604hp but who is counting....me. I had not seen a post on this yet and I thought you guys would enjoy it. Try to catch a rerun. Lou really has that SL65 clean and the Mickey Thompson DR/wheel combo looks great too. Lou has had that car in the 10's if you check out dragtimes...10.85 to be exact with no N20.

mclarenm8d

I saw it last night, pretty cool seeing his car making a run on the show!!

V12Godspeed

Damn!!!! I al ways miss this kind of show...do you know when it will aire again? Man i need to hunt this down on you tube...

W219CLS55

+1

Cylinder Head

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Get a DVR Jody!!! Welcome to 2008!

chiromikey

yes, lou's sl65 is a beast. i raced him later that night and finally thought i beat him. i got the holeshot, he spun and had to lift, and that car still caught me by 1/100th of a second at the friggin end of the track!

Jay9722

I thought it was pretty funy when the host stated the stock horsepower and the contestants jaws nearly dropped! They had to ask for clarification..."did you say stock?"

V12Godspeed

Hahahha, I know, I am the only one in the Ice Age...

III II I I AMG

i'd love a DVR if CH is willing to pay for it! lol.. i need the link to this on youtube when someone finds it.. my cable bill got so expensive i just canceled it.. never watch tv anymore..

JAYCL600

I know you weren't that impressed with those numbers.....

chiromikey

i know what you're implying but considering that it was run on a cold track with a da upwards of 2000' and no n2o, everyone should be impressed!

Stephen04E55

Jason,

No...that time wasn't that special considering the mods that car has and it is a 65 series as well. His launch looked a little soft and I have no idea what the weather conditions were and other factors such as race fuel etc. The SL cars never seem to have as great an et/mph as the CL/S cars on average. Especially when you compare a similarly modded SL55 vs E55 et/mph.

theboogers

i saw the show. i thought the start seemed slow but there was little spin out. i thought it was a sl600 because they never showed the rear of the car clear enough, he said he is at the track every friday nite. thought it was a cool moment.

JAYCL600

i wasnt implying anything, my statements were to be taken literally.

Stephen04E55

Definitely an SL65....it has the "biturbo V-12" on the front fender whereas a SL600 only has a "v-12" emblem. Also the front wheels where of the 65 series variety

chiromikey

well you said it to one of the few people that have run 10's. regardless, what's not impressive about an 11.13 with a marginal launch on a cold track with that high of a da and no n2o?

JAYCL600

This would be a long post so I will try and make it sort as not to bore you. Mikey you know that I have nothing but respect for Lous car, as it was the first benz that we know of to get into the 10's without N2O. I was not aware of the condition ie cold track elevation etc. so my comment came somewhat off the cuff but I still stick to it, relative to his past performance and what the car is capable of its not impressive. His car and my car have "issues" that have yet to be fully explored. I dont think my times are that impressive, but that relative to my cars past performance. He and I have both hit a wall and our cars seem to be going backwards in performance in my opinion. Heres some "weird science" facts for you to wrap your brain around, as I respect your opinion and view point.
-Both he and I are the only cars in the 10's with out N20.
-We both ran our fastest times in optimum weather conditions and had
optimum traction the entire run with sub 1.66 60's
-our quickest ET's represent our represent our fastest 1/8 MPH but slowest 1/4 MPH
-for some reason when our cars are dialed in and make a blistering run, they fall on their face after the 1/8 mile.

chiromikey

ahh...now i see where you're coming from. i didn't know you were comparing it from that perspective.

it's so difficult for us to get those magical conditions here in az that i doubt lou's car will ever run another 10.8...but that's not the cars fault. although it wasn't summer time this particular run was during the afternoon which is the absolute worst time for us in the desert. because the show runs cars so slowly, the runs were few and far between and the track was never able to gain traction like it does when cars are running constantly.

slowest mph's almost always accompany quickest et's so that doesn't surprise me at all. it's also no coincidence that the same car running a 2.0 60ft time will often see better mph's than when it runs a 1.6. to me that doesn't mean the car is falling on it's face even though the numbers might hint at that.

JAYCL600

I agree 100% but thats not my scenario, if you closely at my 3 runs posted here you will see constant traction and sub 1.6x's on every run

Iron Sheik

I believe his car ran a 10.9X @ 130.xx mph also..

Iron Sheik

juicee63

Your car does much better than Lou's back 1/8th.

You pick up 25.9 MPH on the back 1/8th. This is much better than what Lou is doing. His car has attained an incredible 1/8th mile but then picks up a mere 21.32 back 1/8th.

Is it possible Lou is letting off? Seems weird that he can hit 103 in the 1/8th and wind up trapping similar to your car which is hitting 98.

From what you posted from Drag times your car is still making good power back 1/8th . This is likely a turbo sizing restriction. Whats the best back 1/8th run you have ever had ? I see a 28.7 for you which seems INCREDIBLE compared with the others which are 24,57 and 24.36 still good and much better than Lou's 21.32, but he hit 103 which also seems INCREDIBLE for the first 1/8th.

Interesting for sure, at least to me

JAYCL600

i know that there is a video of him running 130 somewhere, but i think it was a 11.XX run.

im glad you found it of interest. It gets even more interesting because i made some mods in between those runs.

Stephen04E55

Jason....you know that Lou has had some work other than just the typical drag radial and ECU/TCU tuning by Renntech. Supposedly he has the carbon fiber aftermarket airbox and some intercooler mods similar to yours. I'm not sure about the exhaust but the rear section appears stock with the quad outlets and it is very quiet. Cars with the rear resonators deleted are very raspy and his is not at all.

Zod

I also recall seeing something similar. J does post very shot sentences.
To an average reader you can come off as a bit bigheaded with the sarcasm sometimes .
Regardless SL times are usually not that great compared to the other MB line up , but any Benz that has gotten 10s, with out NOS deserves respect just as you have gotten .

Now if only the secretes were to tone down and we could see what magic was done to these great machines!

JAYCL600

Stephen,

From what I remember this was basically their "R&D car". Many things were tried on this car and some failed, I think it had the infamous dual throttle bodies that never worked out.

If you knew me personally, like Stephen does and many of the other members here you would know that I am far from "bigheaded" Yes I am very saracstic and at times I make short comments, maybe to a fault sometimes, but please dont mistake my sarcasm for arrogance.