For Vadim and Victor (VRPUSA)...
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For Vadim and Victor (VRPUSA)...
A lot of us have hybrid modified cars. For example, I have the Kleeman K2/LSD/ ELM package, but I also have a heavy dose of VRP parts, PTE (thermostat), Renntech (toe links). My question is for guys like me who are not close to any of your VRP centers and are still interested in a VRP tune.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
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A lot of us have hybrid modified cars. For example, I have the Kleeman K2/LSD/ ELM package, but I also have a heavy dose of VRP parts, PTE (thermostat), Renntech (toe links). My question is for guys like me who are not close to any of your VRP centers and are still interested in a VRP tune.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
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A lot of us have hybrid modified cars. For example, I have the Kleeman K2/LSD/ ELM package, but I also have a heavy dose of VRP parts, PTE (thermostat), Renntech (toe links). My question is for guys like me who are not close to any of your VRP centers and are still interested in a VRP tune.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
Ideally, I would love to send my whole car there and dyno test it like Jim's, but in all honesty it probably won't happen. Will there be a VRP ECU flash that will take into account the other parts in our cars? In my case, I'm pretty close to Jim's setup, but want to have more of a buffer zone towards safety and longevity (i.e. richer than leaner). I know that the balance of taking the advantage of our mods with engine protection is not easy, but I know you guys can do it.
Thanks...I'm motivated to get the VRP700 but I would like your guidance. I am sure there are a lot of other guys in my position.
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Jon,
I would leave it alone for now and just wait and see.. Each car behaves slightly different and depending on the revision of the tune you already have you may or may not need some adjustments..
Personally, my advice is to keep it in the back of your mind that if the need arises, we can update your tune if necessary. But I would wait until the car is back together and we datalog to see where it is at before making a decision on the tuning part.
We have been working to create "package" tunes for each level of modifications (VR550, VR600, VR650, VR700, etc). Although not perfect for all these different combinations out there, one of them will be close enough based on what is on your car.
The only mods that really throw the tunes out of whack are: cams, heads, headers... everything else, although created by different vendors aren't an issue (ie.. as long as you have a 175mm pulley our tune will work regardless of brand of pulley, all 80mm TBs are 80mm so it doesnt matter which one you have, and airboxes and other small items are compensated for by the ECU itself without the need for a retune).
I hope this all makes sense...
I would leave it alone for now and just wait and see.. Each car behaves slightly different and depending on the revision of the tune you already have you may or may not need some adjustments..
Personally, my advice is to keep it in the back of your mind that if the need arises, we can update your tune if necessary. But I would wait until the car is back together and we datalog to see where it is at before making a decision on the tuning part.
We have been working to create "package" tunes for each level of modifications (VR550, VR600, VR650, VR700, etc). Although not perfect for all these different combinations out there, one of them will be close enough based on what is on your car.
The only mods that really throw the tunes out of whack are: cams, heads, headers... everything else, although created by different vendors aren't an issue (ie.. as long as you have a 175mm pulley our tune will work regardless of brand of pulley, all 80mm TBs are 80mm so it doesnt matter which one you have, and airboxes and other small items are compensated for by the ECU itself without the need for a retune).
I hope this all makes sense...
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VRP airbox/viper tubes, VRP cams, VRP extreme belt wrap, VRP I/C upgrade, PTE polished and ported heads (similar to VRP Heads stage II), less restrictive/modified stock exhaust, primary cat delete...+K2 (w/thermal coated shorty Kleeman headers)/ELM/LSD, Renntech toe-links, PTE thermostat and phenolic spacers.
VRP airbox/viper tubes, VRP cams, VRP extreme belt wrap, VRP I/C upgrade, PTE polished and ported heads (similar to VRP Heads stage II), less restrictive/modified stock exhaust, primary cat delete...+K2 (w/thermal coated shorty Kleeman headers)/ELM/LSD, Renntech toe-links, PTE thermostat and phenolic spacers.
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VRP airbox/viper tubes, VRP cams, VRP extreme belt wrap, VRP I/C upgrade, PTE polished and ported heads (similar to VRP Heads stage II), less restrictive/modified stock exhaust, primary cat delete...+K2 (w/thermal coated shorty Kleeman headers)/ELM/LSD, Renntech toe-links, PTE thermostat and phenolic spacers.
VRP airbox/viper tubes, VRP cams, VRP extreme belt wrap, VRP I/C upgrade, PTE polished and ported heads (similar to VRP Heads stage II), less restrictive/modified stock exhaust, primary cat delete...+K2 (w/thermal coated shorty Kleeman headers)/ELM/LSD, Renntech toe-links, PTE thermostat and phenolic spacers.
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yeah, finally have my car on the road again again after some wheel issues. getting my car down to LA for a ecu tune from SF bay area is kind of diffilcult with my work being real busy{ more $$$ for mods} ... too bad their isnt a network of installers
