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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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As much as I am EXTREMELY competitive about my 1/4 mile time AND trap speed, they are used as a telltale to how my car should perform on the street if I encounter a vehicle that wants to do a roll-on, this goes back to your original post of walking a modified Z06 on the street. The bottom line is that you will get your butt handed to you BADLY by even a stock C6 Z06. You can talk in circles all you want, but the data is staring you in the face HARD. 112 trap? my buddies C55 ran a 112.98 bro, find a tree and steer hard left, collect your insurance and call it a day.
exactly! the fact of the matter is, jangy claims he spanked a c6 zo6 from a roll several times, even giving the zo6 a head start. your 112-116 trapping modded e55 is not going to pull a stock zo6 that traps 122-126mph- PERIOD! fwiw- my regular c6 with headers & vararam ran 12.49@113.5 in vegas. my bonestck c6 zo6 in 90deg weather & +4500ft da trapped 123mph last wed(and it was 8th time down the track in this car). you live in san diego i live in vegas. i say we both take a drive and meet in the middle do some roll runs(on video) and settle this once and for all!

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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Interesting post and I have a suggestion for Jangy

Interesting post (took me almost 30min to finish reading it though ) and it looks like it's getting serious... Before the big race in November, how's a friendly race between my stock Z06 against your E55 sound? I just want to see how my stock Z06 would do against your modded E55. That's all. Win or lose.. I really careless. Let me know when would be a good time and day to meet up. The race I want to see is 40-150mph where no real driver skill is required. If you can make a trip to Irvine on Sat or Sunday morning, there is a nice 2mi stretch back road with zero traffic
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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I think Jangy needs to ask SleeperX how fast these stck Z06's with a good driver runs b4 he confirms this $$ bet. SleeperX's Benz was the monster E55 here in these parts. I'll always remember his 11.4 or 11.5 sec run @ over 120+mph.

Talk to him first Jangy b4 you do this. He'll tell ya.


Right now you sound like the "post *****" who is being tag teamed by all the "John's" at the bachelor party!!!


You r crazeee if you wanna come to the East coast and do this!

Give me that money(25k) so that I can refinance and lower my mortgage payments. I would'nt mind taking a little equity out of my house either.

Let me help you be fiscally more responsible.

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65
Interesting post (took me almost 30min to finish reading it though ) and it looks like it's getting serious... Before the big race in November, how's a friendly race between my stock Z06 against your E55 sound? I just want to see how my stock Z06 would do against your modded E55. That's all. Win or lose.. I really careless. Let me know when would be a good time and day to meet up. The race I want to see is 40-150mph where no real driver skill is required. If you can make a trip to Irvine on Sat or Sunday morning, there is a nice 2mi stretch back road with zero traffic
Originally Posted by 02cl55amg
exactly! the fact of the matter is, jangy claims he spanked a c6 zo6 from a roll several times, even giving the zo6 a head start. your 112-116 trapping modded e55 is not going to pull a stock zo6 that traps 122-126mph. PERIOD! fwiw- my regular c6 with headers & vararam ran 12.49@113.5 in vegas. my bonestck c6 zo6 in 90deg weather & +4500ft da trapped 123mph last wed(and it was 8th time down the track in this car). you live in san diego i live in vegas. i say we both take a drive and meet in the middle do some roll runs(on video) and settle this once and for all!
Jangy these guys may possibly save you a long trip and some $$ if you should lose! Do it!!!!!!!!


Again I go back to the scenario of the "Bachelor party"comment!!!!

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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LOL, he quotes Gore!!!
LOL...And you will be too if you decide to follow thru!!!.

It will be a hard lesson learned my friend. I beg you keep that money and just admit that the Z06 will definitely beat your E55. I would call VRP tomorrow and get their 700+ package, just a thought.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Don't you think it would be nice of you to help him trick his 65 instead of just having him want yours?

Nothingf like pre-paid legal, is there?
No I cant help a 65 out because it will be faster than me, I cant have that for me ego

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Nothingf like pre-paid legal, is there?
I can assure you my legal team is larger then your ignorance and my arrogance combined. Your naivete' continues to shine thru, keep it up youre on a roll.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
So, is the only rule on me that it can't have NOS? This is gonna be so fun!! Just like farm raised fish and I'm the newb, LOL!!!!!
Did you not list the mods you will have done? Anything more would be breaking the rules of the bet. Even allowing those extra mods you mentioned was not part of the initial bet but I'll let it go.

Guys, if you do run him in your C6 Z06's please let him win. You're gonna screw up my payday!

Jangy, I'm gonna tell you one last time since you are a long time member and I would feel bad for your family if you lost $25k being stupid. You are going to lose your money and you will be the laughing stock of the internet. I may even feel very generous and use YOUR money to pay for everyones track fees! Just accept the fact that you are delusional and that the stock C6 Z06 driven properly will beat a heavily modded E55 (to a certain extent; i.e. No twin turbos, no nitrous, or 2JZ-GTE swap!). Everyone is telling you what's up, please go consult your modification coaches at VRP and they will tell you the same thing.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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11.13 127.20--New Best for a C6Z06 Bone Stock on Stock Tires

10.85 129.50 New Best for a Bone-stock C6Z06 on DOT Drag Radials


Now this guy is a 1/4 mile surgeon, but this is the bar by which most have set the standard for a "properly driven" C6 Z06.


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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
Now this guy is a 1/4 mile surgeon
Thanks for ruining the fun buddy. I coul have sworn he got into the 10's with the stock run flats that day too. Guess who is going to be driving the C6 Z06 for this bet?
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Thanks for ruining the fun buddy. I coul have sworn he got into the 10's with the stock run flats that day too. Guess who is going to be driving the C6 Z06 for this bet?
What needs to be clarified is how you determine a winner.

So what if the Z traps 160 mph if he fails to pilotthe car he loses. The winner in a 1/4 mile race is the first car to cross the line period. Aside from a red light nothing changes this.


If you take a stage 5 E55 and run a stock Z06 the out come is certainly not a foregone conclusion. Heads up is a different game and many times the slower car owns the faster car. A race is between the drivers not the cars and Jangy beat that Z all the more embarrassing for the owner since Jangy's car is a stage 1 car
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Thanks for ruining the fun buddy. I coul have sworn he got into the 10's with the stock run flats that day too. Guess who is going to be driving the C6 Z06 for this bet?
10's on stock tires would be insane!

I will say this though... They do have some VERY fast tracks on the east coast.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
10's on stock tires would be insane!
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
What needs to be clarified is how you determine a winner.

So what if the Z traps 160 mph if he fails to pilotthe car he loses. The winner in a 1/4 mile race is the first car to cross the line period. Aside from a red light nothing changes this.


If you take a stage 5 E55 and run a stock Z06 the out come is certainly not a foregone conclusion. Heads up is a different game and many times the slower car owns the faster car. A race is between the drivers not the cars and Jangy beat that Z all the more embarrassing for the owner since Jangy's car is a stage 1 car
I agree and all the more reason why Ahmad was pointing out to Jangy that he beat the driver of that car and not necessarily the car.

Now he will have to race a stck Z06 with a worthy driver on this side since he's put the $ on the table.

That I feel is very cocky indeed. But hey if Jangy's willing to put up the $$ then go for it ,it's only $$$$. I do wish him luck based on his self assuredness.

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65
Interesting post (took me almost 30min to finish reading it though ) and it looks like it's getting serious... Before the big race in November, how's a friendly race between my stock Z06 against your E55 sound? I just want to see how my stock Z06 would do against your modded E55. That's all. Win or lose.. I really careless. Let me know when would be a good time and day to meet up. The race I want to see is 40-150mph where no real driver skill is required. If you can make a trip to Irvine on Sat or Sunday morning, there is a nice 2mi stretch back road with zero traffic

Awesome!! I can make it up most saturdays.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Did you not list the mods you will have done? Anything more would be breaking the rules of the bet. Even allowing those extra mods you mentioned was not part of the initial bet but I'll let it go.

Sorry dude. I made the bet with your buddy and fully ignored your comment about my tune. I never said my car (as prep'd for Fontucky) would take the awesome driver. Read around and you will see that the mods I have planned were already in place. I promised no NOS, but a TT is a possibility that I was already looking into. As stated before to your buddy before you dove on it, the bet was between a stock c6 Z06 w/DRs and a HIGHLY modified E55. If you think I'm going to de-tune (ala RennTech) my car just to keep the east coast dark, you are smoking seeds.
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
What needs to be clarified is how you determine a winner.
yes this needs to be clarified

Originally Posted by juicee63

So what if the Z traps 160 mph if he fails to pilotthe car he loses. The winnerin a 1/4 mile race is the first car to cross the line period. Aside from a red light nothing changes this.
since we are clarifying, this is your definition of a winner since you like to run heads up

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A race is between the drivers not the cars and Jangy beat that Z all the more embarrassing for the owner since Jangy's car is a stage 1 car
why would you mention the power of Jangy's car since that is irrelevant when running heads up, its a drivers race, the only thing the z06 driver needs to be embarrassed about is his driving skills
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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As much as I appreciate the intent behind repeating the same banter, I'd really prefer to see some data to tell why i will lose. Why can an E55 not be tricked out enough to beat a stock Z06 in the 1/4? Most importantly, post some times of the Vettes on our coast, instead of 1 run over and over again that happened to be in 30 degree weather?
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bobgodd
11.13 127.20--New Best for a C6Z06 Bone Stock on Stock Tires

10.85 129.50 New Best for a Bone-stock C6Z06 on DOT Drag Radials


Now this guy is a 1/4 mile surgeon, but this is the bar by which most have set the standard for a "properly driven" C6 Z06.
John is a sick driver. His times have been eclipsed by Jamies radial run posted below and Jamies DR run. On DR's
Jamies best is a 10.83@130
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
I don't care whos money it is.

I prefer first accross, because it brings into play the need to get a good launch with the pressure of the tree lights. But, I am willing to go with ET if that is easier.

My car will be a stage 5 in a few weeks (adding headers, CF Airbox, cooling). I will ask that my car be tuned for 100 octane and I intend to run 100 octane fuel.

The vette will be fully stock except for DRs (if you like) and it is your responsibility for bringing it to the track for this race.


Each party gets to non-invasively inspect the other car for 30 minutes and gets the opportunity to back out of the bet based on a disagreement on what a mod is or if it is present.

Each of us will give our wagers to an independent BEFORE the race and we need to decide now how we are to settle any dispute. Make it simply fastest ET on the money run. PERIOD.

Make it $25K minimum since I will need to spend some money on the trip. I am down to give say $5K each to an independent party as a deposit i the event that I do not show or you do not bring a stock Z06.

It all comes down to a stock Z06 vs a modded E55. You say the Z06 is faster and I say the E55 is. Keep calling me ignorant and making fun of the Fontana numbers during the summer but that is just how it is here. Call it my car, whatever. But lets be crystal clear on the bet.
You have short term memory loss. You need to lay off the weed man
Old Jun 15, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
since we are clarifying, this is your definition of a winner since you like to run heads up
Ok, big boy....so what is your definition. Before you naswer, I took him on ET, too so you'd better say it is trap alone that matters....
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You have short term memory loss. You need to lay off the weed man
Yeah, it it will be a stage 5 in a few weeks. Did I lie? Does it say that is all I plan? You think I'm gonna sit from now until November? You guys are so funny. i have my bro inspecting an air field in Alaska. The moment the DA is 32 I am drop shipping my car onto the track for one run!!!
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Ok, big boy....so what is your definition. Before you naswer, I took him on ET, too so you'd better say it is trap alone that matters....
Im not that big, Im actually 5'10.5" Im so pissed that im not 6' but i have found a way to get over it thru the years, on my license I claim that im 5'11" to make myself feel better. Youre obviously grasping for straws and its sad at this point.
Again, id like to dumb it down for you but I cannot in good conscience anymore. My buddy Blackbenzz has a T-Shirt it says "Run Your Car Not Your Mouth" 11/15/08 C u there. I will have an agreement drawn up by tuesday.
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Yeah, it it will be a stage 5 in a few weeks. Did I lie? Does it say that is all I plan? You think I'm gonna sit from now until November? You guys are so funny. i have my bro inspecting an air field in Alaska. The moment the DA is 32 I am drop shipping my car onto the track for one run!!!
Funny guy. Thanks for wasting my time. Go read back on your posts, you clearly stated what mods you will have for the race. You claim to have beat modded C6 Z06's as is. You are just trying to weasel your way out of losing money. You have lost any respect I had for you. Come to MIR with whatever you got and I will have a car to rape your POS. I'm done listening to your BS. Let me know when you are ready to run your car and not your mouth

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Originally Posted by E55JAY
Im not that big, Im actually 5'10.5" Im so pissed that im not 6' but i have found a way to get over it thru the years, on my license I claim that im 5'11" to make myself feel better. Youre obviously grasping for straws and its sad at this point.
Again, id like to dumb it down for you but I cannot in good conscience anymore. My buddy Blackbenzz has a T-Shirt it says "Run Your Car Not Your Mouth" 11/15/08 C u there. I will have an agreement drawn up by tuesday.
Haha!! Nice, you wanted to say ET, didn't you? How much dumber can you get than to just say what it takes to win a race? LOL!!! You just want to leave it all open. Read all the posts and it seems that the mouth is on your end.


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