*** VRP's newest 55K Pulley ***

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Jun 19, 2008 | 12:30 AM
  #1  
We have been working on a new pulley design for a while now. We wanted something priced a little closer to the ASP unit..

This pulley, just like our other 2piece design is made from the ground up exclusively for VRP. We do not start off with a factory damper.

The manufacturer just finished the first prototype unit which we will be evaluating and making sure fits our requirements.

The tuned frequency on the stock damper was measured on the manufacturer's equipment to ensure their test equipment is not different from MB's manufacturer of the stock crank pulley.. Once ours was built it was measured and tuned to be identical to the stock damper.

I havent weighed it yet, but I suspect it will offer some weight savings over the stock setup also.

Originally we were going to make it a solid 1 piece design to help bring the cost down. We received it back as a 2piece design and are just ironing out the price point now. If I can make it happen this will be priced at $999!!!

This pulley has the following characteristics:
  • SFI Certified
  • Interchangeable outer ring to alter the boost up or down
  • None of the belt tracks are driven off of an inertia ring

Here are a few preview pics.. The prototype is being shown in raw material form. The production pieces will be hard anodized in BLACK (and of course I will make some RED ones also)..





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Jun 19, 2008 | 12:45 AM
  #2  
What size?

Is an overdrive supercharger pulley different than the crankshaft pulley?
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Jun 19, 2008 | 09:53 AM
  #3  
Whats the diffrence between the old pulley and this new one?
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Jun 19, 2008 | 10:33 AM
  #4  
Quote: Whats the diffrence between the old pulley and this new one?

+12 WTF??
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Jun 19, 2008 | 11:24 AM
  #5  
You can change the outer piece to alter boost.
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Jun 19, 2008 | 11:41 AM
  #6  
Lets me try the new pulley when it's out.
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Jun 19, 2008 | 12:03 PM
  #7  
OoOooooooooooooo... Me likey!!
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Jun 19, 2008 | 12:39 PM
  #8  
Every time i check my MBworld and there it is ***VRP new product***. You guys are on a role, keep them coming.
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Jun 19, 2008 | 02:04 PM
  #9  
Just want to clarifly.. Our existing 2piece crank pulley that sells for $1499 is still our "top of the line" model. Ever since that was developed, I was looking for an "Entry level" pulley which still had the best quality possible, but at a much lower price point in order to have something that is competitively priced to the ASP unit.

The difference in price point is due to the location of the manufacturer (North America vs Overseas), the dampening technology used, and the construction of the pulley. All of these factors affect our landed cost and therefore we are able to offer them at a lower price.

I will firm up the pricing in the next day or two.

EDIT: Its a 175mm just like the other one.

More data to follow...
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Jun 19, 2008 | 03:03 PM
  #10  
Please also let us know the package price: Pulley + ECU tune + installation !! I am local and hope to see you guys soon !! Thanks
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Jun 19, 2008 | 07:25 PM
  #11  
Quote: Just want to clarifly.. Our existing 2piece crank pulley that sells for $1499 is still our "top of the line" model. Ever since that was developed, I was looking for an "Entry level" pulley which still had the best quality possible, but at a much lower price point in order to have something that is competitively priced to the ASP unit.

The difference in price point is due to the location of the manufacturer (North America vs Overseas), the dampening technology used, and the construction of the pulley. All of these factors affect our landed cost and therefore we are able to offer them at a lower price.

I will firm up the pricing in the next day or two.

EDIT: Its a 175mm just like the other one.

More data to follow...
If the size is identical and I would assume you would get identical results from a tune, etc., how can this one be considered an "entry level" product as far as price? I guess the build quality? Seems to me you would be undercutting your "top of the line" product.
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Jun 20, 2008 | 01:09 AM
  #12  
Quote: If the size is identical and I would assume you would get identical results from a tune, etc., how can this one be considered an "entry level" product as far as price? I guess the build quality? Seems to me you would be undercutting your "top of the line" product.
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Jun 20, 2008 | 02:37 AM
  #13  
Quote: Please also let us know the package price: Pulley + ECU tune + installation !! I am local and hope to see you guys soon !! Thanks
i'm in if it's a good price
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Jun 20, 2008 | 10:47 AM
  #14  
Quote: If the size is identical and I would assume you would get identical results from a tune, etc., how can this one be considered an "entry level" product as far as price? I guess the build quality? Seems to me you would be undercutting your "top of the line" product.
+1 and I'm confused.

Why is a new pulley (of same exact size, etc. at a "slightly" lower price point) being introduced for the 55k at around the SAME TIME that issues are creeping up with the previous "top of the line" product????

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/249200-check-your-vrp-pulleys-please.html

Is the "top of the line" product being discontinued, recalled, modified, etc.? What EXACTLY was done differently with this lower price model? It just seems too close in price to the other pulley for it to be considered a lower price version of the same thing. $500 is not going to change most people's minds on such an essential part of the upgrade process, IMO. Especially if both pulleys are supposed to produce the same results with similar tunes. This would be analogous to a car manufacturer creating a less expensive car that performs the same as a "more pricey" model. And, as we all know, this is automotive suicide.

Why would anyone buy the more expensive pulley now?????
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Jun 20, 2008 | 11:13 AM
  #15  
This pulley has been in the works for 3+months. These things dont magically get made in days or weeks.

The first 2piece pulley was made by a manufacturer overseas. The quality is the best I have seen and I don't think there is a better pulley available on the market today (that's my opinion).

I am always looking to make things better and/or more affordable. When I make something I dont stop just because I have a product; we are continually reviewing and researching to see how to make everything better.

That's why you see us going through 4 different versions of headers, 3 different exhaust combinations, 2 pulley designs, etc,etc.

Because of the popularity of the ASP pulley and the fact that they are the only ones priced in the sub-$1000 category, I set out to get something made that would better the ASP in quality but still maintain a closer price-point.

When I tell people our VRP 2piece crank pulley is $1499 the question I always get asked is why is it so much more than the ASP one and why is it different.

So, rather than make another batch of the original 2piece pulley, I went down the road of getting something made in North America which still maintains the utmost quality but has a lower price point so I can provide customers with VR550 kits for $2000 instead of $2500.

It's all about saving the customer money and giving him the best-bang-for-the-buck. That's what I've always been about and that's what I always continue to try and do.


Quote: +1 and I'm confused.

Why is a new pulley (of same exact size, etc. at a "slightly" lower price point) being introduced for the 55k at around the SAME TIME that issues are creeping up with the previous "top of the line" product????

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=249200

Is the "top of the line" product being discontinued, recalled, modified, etc.? What EXACTLY was done differently with this lower price model? It just seems too close in price to the other pulley for it to be considered a lower price version of the same thing. $500 is not going to change most people's minds on such an essential part of the upgrade process, IMO. Especially if both pulleys are supposed to produce the same results with similar tunes. This would be analogous to a car manufacturer creating a less expensive car that performs the same as a "more pricey" model. And, as we all know, this is automotive suicide.

Why would anyone buy the more expensive pulley now?????
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Jun 20, 2008 | 01:19 PM
  #16  
So what does the VRP 550 consist of?
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Jun 23, 2008 | 02:05 AM
  #17  
i'll definately be getting one of these... in red, of course
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Jun 23, 2008 | 02:48 AM
  #18  
vrus i like how you think better quality at a lower price is just what i need as i am going to get a cl or E 55 in the next few weeks
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Jun 23, 2008 | 03:46 AM
  #19  
What is the damping method used here? Is it also a rubber elastomer like the OEM version?

How does unit go on - can an OEM pulley tool be used to install?

Is it alluminum or alloy?

Vic if its ally should be no problem but I suggest you epoxy coat this so that it is more resilient to corrosion than the ASP. ASP's biggest issue are the crappy welds and corrodes badly.... for the same money it would be a no brainer then.

Looks like a nice piece of kit... but I could not jump to this if I did not understand what the position was on the issues being experienced with the "state of the art" pulleys.
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Jun 23, 2008 | 03:49 AM
  #20  
Quote: None of the belt tracks are driven off of an inertia ring
What does this mean?
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Jun 23, 2008 | 11:52 AM
  #21  
Put me down for a Red one. Let us know when they are going to be available. Also on the VR550 "kit" do you have to have my car to tune or can I just swap out the computer? I live in Missouri so it will be a pain trying to get you my car.
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Jun 23, 2008 | 11:56 AM
  #22  
Another fantastic part from VRP!!!
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Jun 26, 2008 | 11:14 PM
  #23  
Pulley + ECU

Quote: So what does the VRP 550 consist of?
The first batch is all black right now.. I'll be doing a run in red, but the black ones are the most popular because they are more stealthy and not as noticeable to the MB service guys.

Quote: i'll definately be getting one of these... in red, of course

Whenever you are ready, you know where to find me.

Quote: vrus i like how you think better quality at a lower price is just what i need as i am going to get a cl or E 55 in the next few weeks

I will get some technical data on the pulley and post it for you.

The production pullies will be installed using the stock MB pulley tool.

The outer ring is aluminum. The inner piece which attaches to the crank is steel.

With respect to the "issue" with the other pulley.. Right now, I dont know if there is an issue with those 2 specific pullies or not.. None of the other 18 pullies had a problem and since Nov 2007 there have been no mishaps or failures.

Once I have a chance to check over those 2 pullies I will know more and will post whatever info I have..

Quote: What is the damping method used here? Is it also a rubber elastomer like the OEM version?

How does unit go on - can an OEM pulley tool be used to install?

Is it alluminum or alloy?

Vic if its ally should be no problem but I suggest you epoxy coat this so that it is more resilient to corrosion than the ASP. ASP's biggest issue are the crappy welds and corrodes badly.... for the same money it would be a no brainer then.

Looks like a nice piece of kit... but I could not jump to this if I did not understand what the position was on the issues being experienced with the "state of the art" pulleys.
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Jun 26, 2008 | 11:20 PM
  #24  
The ECU can be shipped to California, flashed and shipped back.. no need to have your car for that level of tune. We've done so many of them that the power is pretty consistent across the cars so far.

Quote: Put me down for a Red one. Let us know when they are going to be available. Also on the VR550 "kit" do you have to have my car to tune or can I just swap out the computer? I live in Missouri so it will be a pain trying to get you my car.
Thanks bud!

The pulley has been working great. I think its an awesome product for the price point. The company that makes them only does dampers and has been doing it for more than 30yrs so they know what they are doing.

Quote: Another fantastic part from VRP!!!
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Sep 8, 2008 | 12:56 AM
  #25  
*** PULLIES ARE DONE!!! ***

Our latest pulley is done and has begun shipping.. There are 15 pieces coming in the first shipment so these will not sit around very long.

These are first come first serve so please place your order below if you would like to get in on this deal.

The finish I chose for this first batch is a hard black anodizing on the outer aluminum ring and a black plating on the inner steel damper. This leaves a nice stealthy look and doesn't attract any attention.

I am still pondering doing a few in "arrest-me-VRP-red".. lol..

The VRP Pulley kit comes with:
  • VRP 2piece crank pulley in hard anodized black finish
  • VRP water pump pulley
  • MB Crankshaft bolt
  • New Gates Belt

My original goal was to make these a sub-$1000 product but I just couldn't make it happen.

We are still able to provide a great value for money on the following 2 packages.

This kit is being offered at $1,199!!!.. You can purchase by clicking here: http://vrptuning.com/cart/index.php?...products_id=31

If you are interested in doing a Pulley Kit + Software upgrade, we can now offer this to you for $2,199!!!!. You can purchase by clicking here: http://vrptuning.com/cart/index.php?...products_id=41


NOTE: To get the special pricing, please use coupon code 100off when submitting your order.

Here are some pics of the finished product:







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