W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

FASTER - SL55 OR E55 ??

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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FASTER - SL55 OR E55 ??

Can some one please enlighten me on the differences in quickness,power and the faster car ?

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ESIX3POWER
Can some one please enlighten me on the differences in quickness,power and the faster car ?

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I guess I will start by saying if you take the driver out of the scenerio, the E55 has the same power as the SL55 but it is 400-500lbs lighter (depending on options to either car) go to dragtimes.com and do a comparision between the two cars and you will get a general idea.


I will say IMO that the SL sounds better.

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I guess I will start by saying if you take the driver out of the scenerio, the E55 has the same power as the SL55 but it is 400-500lbs lighter (depending on options to either car) go to dragtimes.com and do a comparision between the two cars and you will get a general idea.


I will say IMO that the SL sounds better.
its not the same power....

sl55- 493hp
e55- 469hp

but the e55 stock vs sl55 stock, the e55 will take it every time...
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
its not the same power....

sl55- 493hp
e55- 469hp

but the e55 stock vs sl55 stock, the e55 will take it every time...
If you compare dyno's, the cars put down the same power. The rating of 469 hp for the E is for marketing purposes. If they are going to charge $40k more for an SL, they want it to look like the SL is stronger.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by enzom
If you compare dyno's, the cars put down the same power. The rating of 469 hp for the E is for marketing purposes. If they are going to charge $40k more for an SL, they want it to look like the SL is stronger.
Same goes for the CL600. It's underrated.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
its not the same power....

sl55- 493hp
e55- 469hp

but the e55 stock vs sl55 stock, the e55 will take it every time...
If you look at the dyno sheets of MANY W211 55's you'll notice they average anywhere from 410hp-430hp @ the wheels...If you do the math that comes out to 493hp-518hp @ the crank...( I'm obviously talking about stock W211's )

My car is of many that can prove this. I dyno'ed on a dynojet about a month ago and got 415hp and 470 torque @ the wheels...

That translates to 500hp and 566 torque @ the crank...and yes I am stock also
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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I've gotten to drive the crap out of both at the AMG challenges and the E is definitely more "balanced" and lighter on its sausage toes. The SL is not far behind and adds the "feel" of being in a cockpit. Straightline, I'd say it is a driver's list with the E taking slight edge. The SL may have better launches, since it has more weight in the rear? The E may have better launches because it has a longer wheelbase? Does it even?
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
its not the same power....

sl55- 493hp
e55- 469hp

but the e55 stock vs sl55 stock, the e55 will take it every time...
Check yourself! Please educate yourself on the 55K motors and the power that they make before you make comment like that

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You must not know who your talking to Please educate yourself on the 55K motors and the power that they make before you make comment like that
oh ok sorry....i was just going on mercedes numbers.....which are apparently wrong....
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Definitely the E55, which is significantly lighter than the SL55.

Unless, I suppose, both cars are required to run top-down. ;-)
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
oh ok sorry....i was just going on mercedes numbers.....which are apparently wrong....
All 55k kompressors make around 500 hp, but as others have mentioned, for marketing reasons, Mercedes changed the numbers around slightly. If you search this site, you'll see many dynos of E55s, SL55s, S55s, and even CL55s that are putting down almost the exact same numbers.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
oh ok sorry....i was just going on mercedes numbers.....which are apparently wrong....
That's OK. Just giving you a friendly ribbing. That's all.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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I recall reading in a mag something to the effect that, although the engines were the same in both the E and the SL, the power difference was attributable to the E having a longer, and thus more restrictive, exhaust system.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Weight is a factor and as mentioned- the hp difference is negligent at best. Apples to apples conditions, the E pulls on the SL but not by much of course.

ABC is the better suspension in IMO but the chassis feel of the E is better.


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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EZE55
I recall reading in a mag something to the effect that, although the engines were the same in both the E and the SL, the power difference was attributable to the E having a longer, and thus more restrictive, exhaust system.

You did read that. That was MB's official explanation of the hp discrepancy between the E and SL. And I can't say that the exhausts are the same or different. But even if they are different, it isn't affecting power.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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i ran a sl63, i was in front of him half a car length for about 6 lights...he never could pull even with me

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is it the same when you go stage 1? everyone keeps saying stock vs. stock
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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is it the same when you go stage 1? everyone keeps saying stock vs. stock
Yes, the E55 is faster than the SL55 for any given level of tune: stage 1 to stage 1, stage 2 to stage 2, etc.

I've run my SL55 at the same track on the same day that JokerzWld ran his stage 1 E55 and he was consistently several tenths faster than me.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
its not the same power....

sl55- 493hp
e55- 469hp

but the e55 stock vs sl55 stock, the e55 will take it every time...
its the same power.... thats just marketing in full force
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I guess I will start by saying if you take the driver out of the scenerio, the E55 has the same power as the SL55 but it is 400-500lbs lighter (depending on options to either car) go to dragtimes.com and do a comparision between the two cars and you will get a general idea.


I will say IMO that the SL sounds better.
SL is far heavier than the E.

The SL has a 2.82 vs the E's 2.65 to try and make up the difference (or the E is being slowed down because with a 2.82 it kills the more costly SL55).

I had both and did many "runs" with the two cars. E pulls every time.

The SL is a high high 12 sec car stock in the 1/4 and the E is mid 12's easy.

When you get on the gas in the E it just pushes you back in your seat a whole lot more than the SL. At times the SL feels just a bit slow.

As for how the cars drive the SL is far better IMHO. My 2004 E55 had the worlds heaviest steering and it was to the point where 5 minutes of hard driving left you with a sweaty forehead (and im in pretty decent shape!). They fixed that for later years but the ABC and suspension geometry of the SL made it the winner. Both are "boats" once the road turns however.
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Same goes for the CL600. It's underrated.
so wait, what do the 600's put down?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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2007+ SL55's received larger throttle body and a slightly smaller pulley from the factory stock, but prior to this their was no discernible difference between any of the 55k motors.
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Even with the new 07-08 SL55 being rated at higher HP/Torque,, the E is still way lighter ..

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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
Even with the new 07-08 SL55 being rated at higher HP/Torque,, the E is still way lighter ..

+1 for the E
I'm not saying the updated SL55 was faster, I never tried to say that. I just wanted to point that out. BTW, I love E55's, had one for over a year and put 25,000 miles on it, so I agree that stock for stock a E55 should beat any stock SL55; provided the drivers are equal.

I actually just took my dads 07 SL55 to the track, best time was 12.6XX @ 114.5 w/ 2.2 second 60 ft times. (all times are in this thread- https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-sl63-amg-sl65-amg-r230/257551-took-sl55-drag-strip.html ) The car has Michelin Pilot A/S tires though, and my launch technique could use some improvement. I'm thinking with some stickier tires and a better launch I could maybe get it into the 12.4's?? What do you guys think I could run in it with 60ft times below 2 seconds?

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