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Old 08-28-2008, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
Take a look at the EVOsport pump. Does it look familiar? No?

By the way, just in case you were being real about wondering if I am getting cooling slide by VRP and see fo yo slf.
whats wrong with the evo pump?
I do not need to see, ill just wait for u to tell me
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whats wrong with the evo pump?
I do not need to see, ill just wait for u to tell me
Haha, nothing is wrong with it. i am saying look at the one in the pics above. You will see the new pump...
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Haha, nothing is wrong with it. i am saying look at the one in the pics above. You will see the new pump...
Yes i know i have it , i was just wondering what was the issue with the pump, also its not a cm30 or any from that range

i feel you are hiding something spill dem beans boy am reaching my modding climax and summer is nearing its end
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Yes i know i have it , i was just wondering what was the issue with the pump, also its not a cm30 or any from that range

i feel you are hiding something spill dem beans boy am reaching my modding climax and summer is nearing its end
I'm not hiding anything. If you have that pump, then you already know it is a 110.
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That guys a dick..

...Everyone was shocked by the performance of the 335i with just a JB3 and intakes. I think this weekend is going to be a rematch but maybe I will use 100 octane just to make the Benz guys feel worse.
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Do you know the difference between a Porcupine and a BMW?
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Do you know the difference between a Porcupine and a BMW?
The porcupine has the prics on the outside (Its funny but not true of all BMW owners)
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The porcupine has the prics on the outside (Its funny but not true of all BMW owners)
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Do you know the difference between a Porcupine and a BMW?
Do you know the difference between a real estate agent and a pigeon?

A pigeon can still make a deposit on a BMW.
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Originally Posted by jangy
I'm also doing cooling right now, but SPLIT THE SYSTEMS!!!! I can not believe that ANY tuner would sell you a larger HE and higher capacity pump and say it will do much. If you do not separate, all you do is buy time. Maybe your car will make a single blast without pulling as much timing, but the datalogged IATs I've seen are dramatic between the separated systems and the ones that just have larger HEs. Also, keep in mind that separating means you add HE capacity as well.
I run a larger LET HE, stock system intact. (NO SEPARATION)

My datalogs show over 20 - degree drop in IATs.

The fastest street-tire pass on record shows the rest.
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Hold on a second, bro. i'm not here to badmouth ANY other setups. I agree with you that cooling is critical for our cars. I am in no way saying your setup is crap. Also, this is simply my uneducated opinion........
Yet you proceed to try and pick apart his setup below.

Originally Posted by jangy
CM30: I've said this a bunch of times and not many like to hear it, but the flow capacity of the CM30 is the same (almost) as the OEM one.
Incorrect. The CM30 flows better, and at a higher pressure capacity than OEM. It's not 200% more, but the additional flow is measurable and beneficial.

Originally Posted by jangy
... I have never been one to believe that the fluid is cooled significantly in a single pass. To me, more passes are better. Given that, I am not even happy with the CM90.
If you want cooling, the CM030 is fine, if you want to be happy, find something else.

Originally Posted by jangy
Last thing, the Marine pumps are made to withstand aqueous solutions and salts, NOT detergents, coolants, etc. Going with an automotive pump allows me to play with fluids more.
In my experience, Marine pumps are more overbuilt than Automotive.

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PTE Thermostat: Again, if all you were doing is taking a stock car and dong some road runs, then this would be great. But, lowering the engine temp even slightly can have an effect on the performance and reliability of the motor AND doesn't help your IATs as significantly as straight up removing that heating source from your setup. It is a great bandaid, but not a performance mod.
Yet another piece of misinformation. If you have ever reviewed datalogs, you would see multiple steps (3) of timing retard, based on WATER TEMPS alone. To say that keeping this retardation at bay, and the subsequent retention of HP is not a performance mod, is incorrect. The retardation happens on a STOCK CAR as well as a modded one.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
I run a larger LET HE, stock system intact. (NO SEPARATION)

My datalogs show over 20 - degree drop in IATs.
right...
and evosport drops 70+ degrees in ACT (what's the difference between IAT and ACT?)
i'll review them all go with the best that fits my budget...
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Originally Posted by MJ50
right...
and evosport drops 70+ degrees in ACT (what's the difference between IAT and ACT?)
i'll review them all go with the best that fits my budget...

I think if everyone would use IAT degrees over ambient, then we would all be speaking the same language. 20 deg. drop to 70 drop is way to ambiguous.. Advertised numbers are _____ -up as we know.
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right...
and evosport drops 70+ degrees in ACT (what's the difference between IAT and ACT?)
Actual Coolant Temperature?
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Actual Coolant Temperature?
no, Air Charge Temperature as stated in evosport site...
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Originally Posted by MJ50
no, Air Charge Temperature as stated in evosport site...
I would love to see a 70+ degree drop...that means it would be well below ambient temperature in my case, or well above 100% efficiency.

I've only seen that kind of performance out of an ice-packed secondary reservoir setup.

Where my IATs would hit ~165 on the dyno at the top of the pull pre-HE, they go to about 135-140 during a pull now. This is read from the car's OBDII port.

Probe in the intake tube reads from 95-115F pre-Kompressor.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
I run a larger LET HE, stock system intact. (NO SEPARATION)

My datalogs show over 20 - degree drop in IATs.

The fastest street-tire pass on record shows the rest.
OK, and?
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
yack yack yack.
Dude, give it up already. So, the whole point of your post, other than to bash me is that the Let setup is "good enough" and that I'm mean because i want something more? Grow up.
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no, Air Charge Temperature as stated in evosport site...
No, means you was wrong, chicachica!!

LOL!!! Bro ignore that thing. he just hates me and all the ones that want the truth. Do your homework, bro and lets see what you get.
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...i floored it but the car just didn't have good acceleration...
i was in S mode and D gear....
I just read through the thread again. I think another problem was the kick-down hesitation when you floored it.
The proper way for a rolling start is... S mode, manually downshift to the right gear(most likely its going to be 2nd), then just let her rip(DO NOT manually upshift, let the computer upshift for you).

Don't lose this time.

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I just read through the thread again. I think another problem was the kick-down hesitation when you floored it.
The proper way for a rolling start is... S mode, manually downshift to the right gear(most likely its going to be 2nd), then just let her rip(DO NOT manually upshift, let the computer upshift for you).

Don't lose this time.


Exactly! If the 335 is in the optimum gear and you guys go for it, while your car is kicking down to a lower gear he is already gone. And your playing catch up. I did notice that 60mph is not that great in 2nd gear (rpms too low). From my testing I have found that 40mph roll in 1st is good. and 75-80mph in 2nd is a killer! I like the keep the rpms up on a rolling start. Let the tranny do the shifting.

Either that or just go from a dig and mutilate him!
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
I would love to see a 70+ degree drop...that means it would be well below ambient temperature in my case, or well above 100% efficiency.

I've only seen that kind of performance out of an ice-packed secondary reservoir setup.

Where my IATs would hit ~165 on the dyno at the top of the pull pre-HE, they go to about 135-140 during a pull now. This is read from the car's OBDII port.

Probe in the intake tube reads from 95-115F pre-Kompressor.
Bro, it was on evosport's website it must be true.

The funny thing is that some people here actually believe those results.
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....or just go from a dig and mutilate him!
If you guys decides to do so, please DO NOT turnoff your traction control!!

Just a heads-up.



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