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Old 08-28-2008, 09:35 PM
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E55 vs CL600 vs M5 (video)

I own a stock E55 and this past weekend raced with my cousin who recently bought a CL600. We raced from 30 to 115 and we were pretty much even until 80 where the CL pulled at least 2 cars on me. Unfortunately we did not take a video of this, but I'm sure we will race again! After an hour he called to tell me that he had just lost against his friend's M5, who took the races on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmyEQmSgrns . I think he mentioned the M5 has 20hp extra due to intake mods. But I still don't see how an M5 can pull on a v12 600 like that, and does that mean I shouldn't even bother racing his friend's M5 since the CL which beat me lost to it? Time for mods I guess!
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Ive been in touch with the M5 driven on M5board, he wont race my car, then again i dont blame him because it would be shear slaughter, but I have a stock cl65 for him to race that he thinks he can beat, again it will be a slaughter fest and I will be driving the 65. There will be video. He also has added exhaust, weaksauce, stay tuned for a nice M5 kill to come. SamE55 I would like to look at your car since youre local, you shouldnt be getting your butt kicked by these stock cars, possible IC pump issues. email me jason@absolutelydriven.com

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Ive been in touch with the M5 driven on M5board, he wont race my car, then again i dont blame him because it would be shear slaughter, but I have a stock cl65 for him to race that he thinks he can beat, again it will be a slaughtet fest and I will be driving the 65. There will be video. He also has added exhaust, weaksauce, stay tuned for a nice M5 kill to come. SamE55 I would like to look at your car since youre local, you shouldnt be getting your butt kicked by these stock cars, possible IC pump issues. email me jason@absolutelydriven.com
+1 since I dont have any trouble beating an M5 either until 120+
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I'll race that M5. I open a can of whoop *** on my friends M5 all the time and he doesn't pull above 120 at all on me, but i aint stock.
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Whats this??? No love for the normally aspirated

I would not race Jason either but then I am smart. I would take it as a compliment that such torque beasts want to race the M5...
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Whats this??? No love for the normally aspirated

I would not race Jason either but then I am smart. I would take it as a compliment that such torque beasts want to race the M5...
Vic, actually LOTS of love and respect for the V10 motor, its amazing and performs incredibly, and the sound is to die for. BUT, this kid is 19 yrs old, local, and needs a wakeup call. When/if we meet up I will be driving the CL65 "alarm clock"
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Originally Posted by JAYCL600
Vic, actually LOTS of love and respect for the V10 motor, its amazing and performs incredibly, and the sound is to die for. BUT, this kid is 19 yrs old, local, and needs a wakeup call. When/if we meet up I will be driving the CL65 "alarm clock"
Please get said beating on video.... please.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Please get said beating on video.... please.
He is in for a rude awakening....let the alarm clock ring....lol!
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I just watched that video, and the only conclusion I can get to is that something has gotta be wrong with that CL.

There's no way that a 98% stock M5 should be walking a tt600 at all, let alone by the bus-lengths shown in the video. The CL has more horsepower and an extra 200+ lb-ft of torque, and the M5's weight advantage was eaten up by having two passengers vs. one in the CL.

Who's CL is that? I think it needs a trip to the shop, followed by a rematch.
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I just watched that video, and the only conclusion I can get to is that something has gotta be wrong with that CL.

There's no way that a 98% stock M5 should be walking a tt600 at all, let alone by the bus-lengths shown in the video. The CL has more horsepower and an extra 200+ lb-ft of torque, and the M5's weight advantage was eaten up by having two passengers vs. one in the CL.

Who's CL is that? I think it needs a trip to the shop, followed by a rematch.
+1...that has been lingering in my mind for ever. Just does not add up.
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Originally Posted by CWW

Who's CL is that? I think it needs a trip to the shop, followed by a rematch.
I offered to the BMW driver to look over the CL600, got no response.
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Who is the kid with the M5? I'll run him, it's just a clk!
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Bad IC pump on CL.
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"2008 BMW E60 M5 V10 vs a 2005 MB CL600. The super-sedan vs. the super coupe. "

I would like to come down to Maryland and blow his doors off with my "super-sedan".... what a tool.
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Whatever on the mods...

The race from a dead-stop tells a very interesting story.

The CL pulled the M5 by 2-3 lenghths out of the hole and by - my guess - 115 mph (about 12 seconds) - he walked past the 600?????

Let me put this in perspective; I raced Gallardo's, C6 Z06's, and Vipers. If I got that kind of jump on them (which I never did, they were only about 1.5 car lenghts) it took them until 110+ to go around me. My friend with a Gallardo took until 115 to go around me and I only got a car-length out of him out of the hole (different story and debate how I could out-launch a 500 HP AWD 3700 lb car but it is what it is...)

M5's are fast - really fast - when modded. The one that spanked the CL did not have "just" 20 hp.

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I came to my conclusion...this has got to be a 500 posing as a 600...how many times havent we seen this!!!
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I came to my conclusion...this has got to be a 500 posing as a 600...how many times havent we seen this!!!
Nope... that is a real CL600...

Notice the rear big-brake-kit with the 4 piston Brembos:



Also on this CL600 from eBay:
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Nope... that is a real CL600...

Notice the rear big-brake-kit with the 4 piston Brembos:



Also on this CL600 from eBay:
Good point. Ok ...Bad IC pump...lol!
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Who is the kid with the M5? I'll run him, it's just a clk!
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I don't know but after driving a few fast car's I feel like once I hit 4th gear on my e55 that's where the car begin's to slow down. Every car slow's down once it hit's high speed's but that's how I feel about my E55 after driving a 07 M6.
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And his name is...

I get my car back tomorrow if I find a ride up to Philly. I'll run him
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And his name is...
hes some kid and the M5 is his cousins, sn BMWpower06, hes a friend of Paul with the E63
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And his name is...

I get my car back tomorrow if I find a ride up to Philly. I'll run him
he wont run you if he knows that youre car is fast, hes already said he doesnt want to run me. "is yours the one with the Volks, you run 11's right"
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hes some kid and the M5 is his cousins, sn BMWpower06, hes a friend of Paul with the E63
That tool? His name is Matt. He used to run his mouth about his friggin 330i with an intake (which he still has). Don't even bother with him. He poses like its his M5 but like you said, it is his cousins. Everybody clowns him. Those kids parents buy their kids nice things. One of his friends has a 997TT vert, picture 4 dorky guys rollin aroun in a 997TT vert with the top down thinkin they are the **** LOL
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
That tool? His name is Matt. He used to run his mouth about his friggin 330i with an intake (which he still has). Don't even bother with him. He poses like its his M5 but like you said, it is his cousins. Everybody clowns him. Those kids parents buy their kids nice things. One of his friends has a 997TT vert, picture 4 dorky guys rollin aroun in a 997TT vert with the top down thinkin they are the **** LOL
haha, hes dumb enough to accept a run with Toms CL65 with me driving, for some reason hes convinced he can beat a 65. In the earlier runs he had just an intake, now he has eisenmann exhaust as well, should be a GREAT video


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