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Update: MHP ECU/TCU Tuning (Throttle Blipping, etc, DONE!)

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Old 10-07-2008, 08:21 PM
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Any news on the 65's.....forget about those little V8s'...., Just kidding fellas, relax before I get the book thrown at me....
yep it made 1000rwhp on 91 octane, mhp tune baby!!
Old 10-07-2008, 08:26 PM
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the point is, you lost, the Gallardo isn't trapping 120, and neither are you....

and from a dig? I'm sure you would "instantly" take a Gallardo by two car lengths from a dig like you said..... You would have ZERO chance if the Gallardo really ran you like it could, nice video here:

http://www.dragtimes.com/video-viewer.php?v=RycA3jNFQb8

please, please tell everyone that you would have beat him by 2 car lengths from a real dig.....
That was allanlambos and very much not stock from what I have heard/seen.
Old 10-07-2008, 08:28 PM
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ah, maybe so, but the stock Gallardo has plenty of power to launch as well....


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That was allanlambos and very much not stock from what I have heard/seen.
Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
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That was allanlambos and very much not stock from what I have heard/seen.
ugh hes such a douche
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Originally Posted by MHP
That being said I don't think LZH is saying my car would definitely beat Rock's in the quarter, but I know for a fact it can hang from 50-130 (which in my mind is a pretty good spread) which says a lot for a N/A motor with just filters/tuning. Would you agree to that?
I'll be interested to see what it does to a E63 or CLS63. I suspect that the C63 benefits more since it's detuned from the factory and weighs 243lbs less. The C is rated at 461hp & the E at 516, do you really think there is the same percentage of tuning improvement left on an E or is AMG making different versions of the 6.2?
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ugh hes such a douche
LOL !!!! I was just about to say the same....at least we agree on something. Last time I saw that retard he was wearing chrome hearts jewlery, khakkis and docksiders !!!
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Of course I agree. Rock's absolute best was 124.6 and you haven't gotten the best out of your car yet. I focus more on trap speed as an indicator of power and performance than anything else. That being said, a car that traps 120+ is going to pull away from a car that traps 116.XX. The fact that it didn't happen during your race with Rock doesn't signify anything meaningful in my opinion. How many times have you raced side by side with identical cars and yielded completely different results? Who got the jump, what gear were you in, whose car was a hotter, who spun more..???...way too many variables. 116.XX is a great MPH for a 63 motor with little to no miles on it.
Very well said, to much speculation untill they both run at the track on the same day and have some rolling runs on the way home.
Old 10-07-2008, 11:34 PM
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Albert and guys,

I went to Dragway 42 tonight (about one hour away from Norwalk Raceway). I wanted to see what my car would run since I resolved my CEL issues and installed the VRUS airbox/intake tubes. I was also a little confused as to why I could not pull on Andy.

I was not impressed with my track results. I ran a 12.1 @ 119.67 (similar traps on two runs). Temps were low 60's. I have not trapped this slow since my initial K2 install. Is it possible the airbox could be slowing me down? I know of another 55 member that showed less hp with the airbox installed.

Draw your own conclusions with the new info but there is no need to point out the obvious.........like my lack of driving skills.
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Albert and guys,

I went to Dragway 42 tonight (about one hour away from Norwalk Raceway). I wanted to see what my car would run since I resolved my CEL issues and installed the VRUS airbox/intake tubes. I was also a little confused as to why I could not pull on Andy.

I was not impressed with my track results. I ran a 12.1 @ 119.67 (similar traps on two runs). Temps were low 60's. I have not trapped this slow since my initial K2 install. Is it possible the airbox could be slowing me down? I know of another 55 member that showed less hp with the airbox installed.

Draw your own conclusions with the new info but there is no need to point out the obvious.........like my lack of driving skills.
ouch...what was your 60 and 1/8th trap
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Andy....Where is the 65 DYNO? this has gone way beyond

A normal few days to week??? What about Marko's 65 dyno? hell any dyno from 600/65?????????????
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Originally Posted by Rock
Albert and guys,

I went to Dragway 42 tonight (about one hour away from Norwalk Raceway). I wanted to see what my car would run since I resolved my CEL issues and installed the VRUS airbox/intake tubes. I was also a little confused as to why I could not pull on Andy.

I was not impressed with my track results. I ran a 12.1 @ 119.67 (similar traps on two runs). Temps were low 60's. I have not trapped this slow since my initial K2 install. Is it possible the airbox could be slowing me down? I know of another 55 member that showed less hp with the airbox installed.

Draw your own conclusions with the new info but there is no need to point out the obvious.........like my lack of driving skills.
I knew something was up! NO-way should a 116 trapping car hang w/124 trap from 0-whatever mph or 50-130
Old 10-07-2008, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JAYCL600
ouch...what was your 60 and 1/8th trap
2.01 and 89.98 respectively...........................
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Nice to see some of the OG brains come out of the dark. It has definitely gotten boring about the place.....
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2.01 and 89.98 respectively...........................
street tires? I cant imagine the intake slowing you down like that, plus u have good weather, youre making a ton of power on back half of track
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Nice to see some of the OG brains come out of the dark. It has definitely gotten boring about the place.....
Yo Jangster! Are you up for some roll-ons yet?? I may be in Irvine this wknd getting the SL lowered...
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Originally Posted by Thericker
A normal few days to week??? What about Marko's 65 dyno? hell any dyno from 600/65?????????????
MHP didnt tune markos ECU, just the TCU
Old 10-08-2008, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JAYCL600
street tires?
No, DR...... trying to make me feel bad Jason?...........Too late.



Originally Posted by JAYCL600
I cant imagine the intake slowing you down like that, plus u have good weather, youre making a ton of power on back half of track
The only thing I can tell you is that I know of another member that had significantly lower dyno numbers with the airbox installed.....go figure. Something is up with my car. I'm going to pull the airbox and give it another try.
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Hey Rock...last time (before latest engine mods) I had the K2 w/ VRP airbox and my best time was:

60' - 1.876
1/8 - 7.829 trap @ 93.19
1/4 - 12.038 trap @ 116.98

NOTE: My launches were average and I tended to lay off throttle at the end...newbie move...so I think I would definitely have had sub 12s at a little higher trap given more practice.

The #'s above seem comparable to what you got in this latest run...
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Yo Jangster! Are you up for some roll-ons yet?? I may be in Irvine this wknd getting the SL lowered...
Hey brother. The car will be done tomorrow so i hope to have it for the weekend. Irvine would be sweet!! I'm hoping for some stronger top end with the cooling so we'll see.
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No, DR...... trying to make me feel bad Jason?...........Too late.

No DRs? I'll leave it to you to decide if you gave your car the best chance? Out here DRs make 3/10ths difference. I dunno if that is track, car, or whatever but it does make a huge difference in the 60 foots.


The only thing I can tell you is that I know of another member that had significantly lower dyno numbers with the airbox installed.....go figure. Something is up with my car. I'm going to pull the airbox and give it another try.
I've seen a number of cars run lower dyno numbers with the CF Air Boxes. Some ran better on the track and some worse. I don't think a dyno is the best way to track intake mods. Have you tracked your IATs at all? If they are jumping with the box, then it would explain pulled timing and lower traps. I have also noticed first hand the difference a good connection of the air tubes makes in the IATs. Check your tubes to make sure they are feeding cool air to the box.
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Originally Posted by Rock
2.01 and 89.98 respectively...........................
yikes ..


that 1/8th mile split shows some issues. Your carshould be doing 93-94 mph 1/8th mile splits, 120 mph is average for your mod level but that 89 is alarming
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that's what I was going to say, the 1/8 mile trap is off..... you should be at 94 MPH, even with 2.0 60's.....


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yikes ..


that 1/8th mile split shows some issues. Your carshould be doing 93-94 mph 1/8th mile splits, 120 mph is average for your mod level but that 89 is alarming
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Originally Posted by jangy
Nice to see some of the OG brains come out of the dark. It has definitely gotten boring about the place.....
Jangy, Are you considering attending the MIR event? I think we own the fans a race to settle our dispute of a month ago. I'm even up for racing for ****s and giggles. What do you think? I'm being sincere and not trying to be a wise azz.
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LOL... reading through this thread cracks me up.

Seems some guys don't realize the difference between NA curves and FI curves... and or the vehicles and their weights at a track.
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Originally Posted by Thericker
A normal few days to week??? What about Marko's 65 dyno? hell any dyno from 600/65?????????????
I never dyno'd my car and am not in a hurry to. I have an idea of the power it makes.


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