Fr33kn63

+1
I dont mind being a guinea pig either as long as i acheive more power and am (hopefully) on the cutting edge of doing things not many others have attempted on our setups. Something break....oh well....money usually fixes that.

Gotta pay to play with any car....give me more HP and TQ(without spraying)!!!

indyjoe

I'm certainly aware of the possible risks involved with modding, however, the point I was making is that no one really has any idea how an aggressive ECU/TCU will affect various components. Some people have 100k miles on pulley's, but others have pulley's that have been destroyed in 20k miles. Some take the risk with NOS, others won't touch it.

I've been burned by buying a hot new product that was touted as the next big thing, and it's cost me money. I take a wait and see approach now. If you want to experiment, and replace a broken axle, damaged transmission, or possibly an engine then that's your choice.

blackbenzz

Every part has a limit. Once you make a certain amount of power you exceed that limit and stuff breaks. You just upgrade. Its part of the process. Otherwise you are limited to your weakest link. Doesnt matter if you can make 1000wtq if your axles can only take 500wtq etc etc

Andy0331

This is true, but it certainly isn't a case of all mods having the potential to do equal damage. The guy who throws headers on his car or an upgraded cooling system isn't putting equal strain as the guy who adds more boost, or changes the ECU.

You like to push the limits of your car.. great! Not everyone wants to push the envelope all the way. What MHP doesn't seem to put out there in his posts (although I'm sure he understands it) is that there are many versions of "best". What is best for you (max performance) might not be the same as best for a daily driver (increased performance, with more reliability or safety built in).

If all Andy is currently dealing with (at least as advertised in these forums) is ECU & TCU software. There is certainly a limit on what you can do with software and the closer to the edge you get, the higher the risk of damage to your car. Damage can be instant or it can just be a reduced lifespan of the engine.

Me personally, I enjoy "mild". I'd rather do several "small" mods, than one extreme one. Reliablilty is a factor, the higher the performance, the lower the reliabilty... I'm not saying that MHP is blowing engines, I'm saying that they are wearing them faster, or running closer to the edge than many prefer. When people question anything about his stuff, he blows up into a huge internet douche & just has to keep putting his 0.02 in. Every thread that mentions MHP is suddenly "his" thread. Guess what, the beginning of this thread had just as much to do with VRP as it did MHP. Andy is just a tad obsessive/possessive of his status as "tuning god" and thinks that being a sponsor gives rights to do as he pleases.

I'm not blaming him for the downfall of this forum, but he is a contributer with his generally hostile attitude.

indyjoe

That's my point. Some people push the edge, and if something breaks then they replace it. Others wait to see how the product holds up over time. I'm part of the wait and see crowd, but I appreciate and applaud those that experiment and push the envelope.

blackbenzz

I'm sure Andy would be happy to take your car and detune it and have it last even longer! Andy I just thought of a new branch of MHP!!! You can decrease hp/tq and increase mpg and longevity!!! You can call it MHP GREEN!!! I want 60% of profits

jrcart

Just remeber, it can always be fixed or replaced when it breaks, just make sure you replace it with a better and stronger part. I am not one to sit by and let the world pass me by. If it where not for risk takers like me and Andy none of you would have any aftermarket parts available for their cars, no matter how subtle or extreme. Remember, Andy was the first one to put one of his tunes on his BRAND NEW 2009 C63, that should tell you somthing about his confidnece in reliability. Believe me, I have made mistakes on mods in the past, countless blown rear ends, blown engines, holed pistons, blown turbos, blown transmissions, I have done it all. I've just been lucky so far on this one. My only complaint with this car is I keep going through tires

indyjoe

I know you're trying to be funny (and failing), but that's at least one good thing about the tune is (my understanding) that he can custom tune to be more or less aggressive. Plus, the factory tune is very conservative (in the C), so there's room to play.

blackbenzz

No I really want 60%

JAYCL600

haha, classic

chiromikey

do you guys have a statue I can pay homage to or is there a towel you might have used on the treadmill at the gym that anyone is selling on ebay that you would sign for me...

Gondon

Sounds like a tune for Liberals.

TMC M5

How about the Shroud of Naperville....with his sweaty image in the towel?

Tom

ROCKETW19

right anwser wrong spelling "Recombinant" is the correct spelling
I just looked at it on my box of rDNA thats the only way I would know how to spell it.

Hotrod-Realtor

Actually I laughed and thought it was a good one.

sack5000

Amazing that you posted a spelling correction, simply amazing coming from someone that has absolutely hacked the English language for the last several years since I have been reading posts here. Hey, I'm only kidding you 'bro.

LZH

Guess it's just a sign of the times - all things change and/or evolve/devolve - nothing remains static forever. If you don't like it then perhaps you should go somewhere else or start your own forum and limit free speech.

Rock

Haha...........Ahmad, funniest post I've ever seen from you.

Wow, a scientist with a sense of humor. Go figure.

sack5000

Are you another "affiliate" of MHP?

LZH

Not affiliated with MHP in any way, shape or form. I just believe they have a great product and only time will tell just how good it really is. Sure, Andy can be a bit brash...but not any more so than any of the other guys on here and he gets his point across without using vulgarities like I have seen from some of the same members who are complaining about him. I think the problem is simply the fact that Andy has inundated the board with posts in his short time here. He is free to do whatever he likes. Personally, I find it quite entertaining.

supre55

I feel like I was the only member with more than 6 posts to put my 2 cents in so.....

Fr33kn63

+1 I was thinking the same thing when i read his posts...
LoL with Ahmad, not at.

MHP

Picked up my new (~8 YO really) pup today. Just got back about an hour ago.

MHP

Very aggressive? First and foremost all our tunes are safe. The quickest/easiest way to put ourselves out of business is by losing a motor, as such we never risk durability/longevity for a couple extra horses.

Several other companies offer an ECU tune, but none like us. No one else in the world does TCUs for 7As either. Frankly I'd love to see a comparison of our TCUs vs anyone else that does them for the WA5As. Maybe one day...

MHP

I've been lurking for years.