jangy

again, not top speed. Top END power.

blackbenzz

He can list his mods better than I can. I know he has headers, exhaust, tune, etc etc

jangy

JIM: That is all I asked for from day 1. I've never seen a 63 documented at over 500rwhp with the modification explanations, so I asked for it and got blasted. I've never doubted it, but why not talk about them?

Vic55

Jangy and Jim, I am thinking of starting a new thread that just you two can be a part of so you don't hijack other threads

Should I make it a sticky- we can all join in and view- you can keep it open as long as you dont go postal on each other?

jangy

Be honest, I think Jim and I may be done. Up to him. I'm down for entertainment purposes only, but my personal is done.

jrcart

Jangy, first of all my car only makes about 90rwhp more than my car did stock 420 stock vs. 511 at my last dyno test and 25 of those HP I can attribute to the Dymag wheels. As soon as I get my new crank pulley installed this week I am going to try to get some more dyno time to see what I gained from pulley and MHP tune.

I don't know why you have such a hard time beliving me, do you really think I have anything to hide? I have published every mod I have done as well as let you all know what is still in the works (heads, cams, pistons, Ram-air hood/intake). All of the times I have "officially" published have been backed up by video, timeslips and MB World members who were present at the track that saw the bottle NOT INSTALLED IN MY CAR.

I don't know what else I can say on this issue

jangy

I know what you intend to do. I just don't know about your current mods. I'm no judge, I just didn't know. I still think it is too bad that the west coast AMGs didn't make it to this meet. I guess January it is.

jrcart

Jangy, You must be the only guy that frequents the AMG sections of this board that does not know about my mods. There is an entire STICKY thread on the build of my car over in the W209 Black Series sub forum. It goes into great details. I will give you a quick list.

Evosport Longtube Headers
Evosport stainless X-pipe
Cat Delete
Kleeman Resonators
Evosport Crank Pulley (not installed yet)
I had a Powerchip 99 octane tune
Now I have the MHP 100 octane tune
MHP TCU
VRP CF High Capacity Airbox
Dymag Wheels 19x9f/19x11r (16 pounds each)
Pirelli Corsa Tires Dot R compound 305/30/19 rears
H&R lowering springs
Corner Balanced
Rotora Stainless Brake Lines front and rear
Evosport Chromoly Roll Cage
Sparco 5-point harnesses
Sparco OEM CF DTM Seats (12.5 pounds each)
Braille Auto CF Battery (15 pounds)
Evosport/Vorsteiner CF Black Series Aero Package Front splitter/rear tall lip spoiler

*NOS 50-150 Dry Shot
*Forgeline 17x10.5" forged aluminum wheels (rear)
*Mickey Thompson Street E/T tires
*MHP ECU/TCU NOS only program tuned for 120 octane fuel.

Now does that sound like a drag racing car or a road racing car?

JamE55

JCart vs Jangy

Who will win?

We need Jakpro's voice on this one. lol

jrcart

It would not even be a race! Jakpro is not going to waste his time.

BTW, speaking of Jakpro voiceovers how long has it been since we have seen any OWNAGE threads on this forum, I think we scared tham all away, it's been at least 2 months since we outed Marty aka AMGAUTOBAHN. I need an ownage fix.

jangy

Nice list. I stay out of stickys unless I get dragged in and I don't go to many other rooms.

gravedgr

Because it gets under your skin. Ignoring him would be simpler.

jangy

Jim does GREAT work!!

jangy

'tis actually true. Or just add me to your sig....

Thericker

Curious what did your stock seats weigh each? any thought or plans on running.....

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I'm certain they'll cost a pretty penny, I wish I could justify buying a set.

LZH

So all this bull***** becasue you "don't go to many other rooms" ????? Sorry, but that's no excuse for speaking out of line. Simply saying your don't look at other threads in other rooms only makes you look stupid considering your previous comments about Jims car and certainly opens you up to considerable ridicule. Guess what ? Perhaps you should have "dragged" yourself into the Black Series forum and looked at the sticky on Jims car before questioning him and his car and putting the rest of us through all this crap.

gravedgr

jrcart

The new CF Sparco seats weigh 15.8 each with aluminum brackets attached. The factory seats weigh 72.1 pounds each with oem brakets/mounting attached. Factory seat are HEAVY!

Sparco CF 15.8lbs x 2 = 31.6lbs

Factory Seats 72.1lbs x 2 = 144.2

144.2 - 31.6 = 112.6 pounds of weight savings

I might be interested in those brakes, PM me some more info. I need to change the brakes (again) anyway. I have heard lots of horror stories about CC brake rotors, not sure if they are really the best solution for a street/track car. Anyone have any feedback for me?

jangy

No, all of this BS because I got jumped for asking to "see" the 511rwhp, which the current posted list won't do. If it does, then we have at least two CLS63s that have more or similar mods and they are nowhere near putting 511 to the floor. Given that, why would Jcart's car be so much faster than stock if it were not modded. SO, I asked. It just so happenned that when I asked was when Andy came along with his "thou shalt not question us" attitude AND Jim had just been hanging out with the LET lovers that had chosen me to jump. His initial reply to me is why we are here. If you really think I'm a nuub enough NOT to know what a CLK BS can do, then I have you rattled, too.

jangy

LOL!! Man, you have been slinging it from the bottom of the barrel for almost a month now. If anything my involvement should just entertain you. You sold out, boy. How's that feel? Especially, since you didn't even jump on a popular wagon. Enjoy your ride.....

jrcart

Jangy, those are the only mods I have done to my car, why can't you believe me?. If you want to buy a plane ticket to Chicago, I will pick you up from the airport and we can drive directly to 2 shops of your choice in the Chicagoland area (you do the research) with DynoJet dyno's. If my car does not make at least 510 rwhp +/- 2.5% I will give you $5000.00 and refund your plane ticket. After that we can take the car to an MB dealership or anywhere you want and you can tear the car apart looking for any other mods I might have not disclosed, you can even pull the heads off (at your expense). If you find ANY additional mods I will refund the labor cost AND GIVE YOU MY CAR!
This is a serious offer, with thousands of witnesses, so PM me your flight info. I will be out of town this Thursday through Monday morning, I'll be at the NASCAR race in Dallas, but any other dates (except MIR weekend) will work for me.

jangy

Jim, I do believe you. I just don't understand it. Proving it to me won't change anything. Yes, before I was playing with you but now I am being serious. I have seen similar mods be good for less, so i am simply curious. It does not mean I do not believe. It means your car is actually interesting to me.

Look at any of the 55k mods. EVERYONE here knows about them because we get into the nuances, etc. Everything with the 63 mods has been "majik" or something. One tuner does it and gets X numbers and another tuner does it and loses power. Go figure. It would just be nice to talk more about the mods and their actual impact than just assuming that a modded CLK BS is awesome. Thats all.

jrcart

I can't explain the outcome we are seeing, I don't have that kind of knowledge, my technical knowledge of automobiles verges on minimal...or just enough to be dangerous, on the other hand I can drive/ride the hell out of anything with an engine. AS for variances between 63's, I'mnot quite sure what you are reffering to. Most of the mumbers I have seen have been in line. Even the Renntech tuned Black Series is in line with Evosport tuned Black Series with similar mods (shorties w/cats still on car)....remember I have one of the only Black Series or any 63 for that matter that is running a longtube header/cat delete, X-pipe set-up, plus I am the only one to be running around with the 99 octane tune, all of the other cars I have heard of are tunned for 91 or 93.

Maybe these 63 engines respond better to my mods than a 55 with similar mods, I can't expalin it. All I can tell you is that I have had my car on 3 different dynos at 3 different shops and had very consistant numbers. That tells me the number must be somewhat accurate. Furthermore, my 1/4 mile motor only e/t's and trap speeds pretty much back up the dyno figures. I don't know what more I can say or show you on this subject. I have been forthcoming, open and honest about EVERY mod as well as provided timeslips, video prof as well as MB World witnesses to my passes.

rarfinancial

I ran a 100 octane tune for two months without ever doing a dyno. I can tell you one thing for sure, you WILL make more power and you will run faster. The 100 octane tunes must not be compared to 91 or 93 octane tunes. even from the same tunner. Tunner X races his tune 91 and 100 side by side. who wins? just saying when one dyno is 100 octane and the other is 91 octane that does not mean that tuner X is better tuner Y.

c32used

I found this to be uncalled for..........its obvious you are into VRP but has anyone called you a VRP lover? I like LET cause I have met the personel and they have been more then helpful to me as I am sure VRP would be if I lived closed to them...LET isn't buying my love they treat me as a valued customer thus I appreciate and promote them if I can...as I would do for VRP if the situation was reversed. Please keep your comments to yourself or JRCart and leave all those LET lovers out of something they are not saying anything of. Also if you recall no where in JRCarts' mod list does it say LET. So why bother to mention LET in this?