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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Ummm.. Twin Turbo 63....

I cannot believe this has not been posted yet!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...mktid=cj260233
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
I cannot believe this has not been posted yet!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...mktid=cj260233

I can't believe Jim hasn't BOUGHT it yet???
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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I can't believe Jim hasn't BOUGHT it yet???
He has!
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Ya, I saw that a while back. Sounds great. I will give them a call to see if it is a prodution kit or just a one run deal. If it's sold as a kit I may have just found my new X-Mas present
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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He has!
You sure he bought it? If so must be a production kit by now. SWEET
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Ya, I saw that a while back. Sounds great. I will give them a call to see if it is a prodution kit or just a one run deal. If it's sold as a kit I may have just found my new X-Mas present
that would be a merry x-mas indeed ...
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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My guess is that it is a one off... Rick bro, why do you need it to be a kit? If they did it once, they can do it again. Call em and spark a deal to showcase it here...What better car to show it on?
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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Ya man...

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Actually, they announced the kit on that ML63 over a year and a half ago. This was a one off special order for somebody in Dubai I believe. I think Kleemann said that the turbos would fit ONLY the ML-Class and would not fit the E/CLS because there is just not enough room under the hood.

It'd would've been great if they offered it as a kit though
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 02:21 AM
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A few things to remember about turbo kits on 6.2s:

1) Remove the engine, swap slugs, rebalance, reinstall engine. Think about inconel exhaust and stainless intake valves. $7-9k

2) Cost of the kit itself would likely range from $15-20k

3) You're also going to need a built 7A to go with it: $10k

Don't get me wrong a turbo 6.2/4v would be the cats ***, 1000rw+ on 93 all day long would be NP, but it won't be cheap.
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Originally Posted by MHP
A few things to remember about turbo kits on 6.2s:

1) Remove the engine, swap slugs, rebalance, reinstall engine. Think about inconel exhaust and stainless intake valves. $7-9k

2) Cost of the kit itself would likely range from $15-20k

3) You're also going to need a built 7A to go with it: $10k

Don't get me wrong a turbo 6.2/4v would be the cats ***, 1000rw+ on 93 all day long would be NP, but it won't be cheap.
Wouldn't you also have to get the engine internals strengthened? I don't think the motor can handle that kind of power without getting built. So that would add another, what, $10k?
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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I can't believe Jim hasn't BOUGHT it yet???
Nope, I don't think I could buy it if I wanted it. I heard about this months ago, what I have also heard is that they are having all kinds of problems with it, I don't think they have ever offered one for sale to public. Like I have said before, I looked into turbos 6 months ago, nobody is doing a reliable one on the 63, at least with any significant amount of boost.
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Nope, I don't think I could buy it if I wanted it. I heard about this months ago, what I have also heard is that they are having all kinds of problems with it, I don't think they have ever offered one for sale to public. Like I have said before, I looked into turbos 6 months ago, nobody is doing a reliable one on the 63, at least with any significant amount of boost.
I think a low boost supercharger would do just fine on your car Haven't read the VRP63 kennebell post lately but I'm sure they will have it running with 0 bugs. Do you really need more than another 100-150whp? I have a feeling alot of the 63's will be blown before they are turbo'd. Really like your dymags BTW.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Wouldn't you also have to get the engine internals strengthened? I don't think the motor can handle that kind of power without getting built. So that would add another, what, $10k?
Crank and rods are fine, as stated above new pistons (also rings) would be necessary along with a rebalance--that's all as far as the bottom end.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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I think a low boost supercharger would do just fine on your car Haven't read the VRP63 kennebell post lately but I'm sure they will have it running with 0 bugs. Do you really need more than another 100-150whp? I have a feeling alot of the 63's will be blown before they are turbo'd. Really like your dymags BTW.
There is absolutely zero point in putting a 2.6 twin screw on a 11.3:1 motor unless the owner wants to run C16 all the time. You can get MAYBE 4-5psi on 93 octane out of one--I'd rather run a shot of spray or just H/C on the stock bottom end N/A. H/C will make more power than 4-5psi (though not as much tq) in a safer manner and not add 70-80lbs (blower/IC/fluids) to the front end of the car either. If 580-600rw with H/C isn't enough, go 7.0L stroker and 700rw on 100 octane.
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Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance
I think a low boost supercharger would do just fine on your car Haven't read the VRP63 kennebell post lately but I'm sure they will have it running with 0 bugs. Do you really need more than another 100-150whp? I have a feeling alot of the 63's will be blown before they are turbo'd. Really like your dymags BTW.
I want to keep the car N/A, I still have a long list of mods that ate going to be installed late Jauary or early February which include a CF true ram-air hood, heads, cams, vlaves and springs. The combo of those three things should bump up my rwhp by at least 65 on the conservative side and as much as 85. That will put my car over 600 rwhp which is astounding for a non forced induction car, and remember I always have the bottle for a additioanal 75-150 mor hp if needed
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There is absolutely zero point in putting a 2.6 twin screw on a 11.3:1 motor unless the owner wants to run C16 all the time. You can get MAYBE 4-5psi on 93 octane out of one--I'd rather run a shot of spray or just H/C on the stock bottom end N/A. H/C will make more power than 4-5psi (though not as much tq) in a safer manner and not add 70-80lbs (blower/IC/fluids) to the front end of the car either. If 580-600rw with H/C isn't enough, go 7.0L stroker and 700rw on 100 octane.
On the website is says that the ml63 biturbo is running 800hp and 753 torque limited!!!

is that good for a low 10 sec run on jims lightweight monster???
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
On the website is says that the ml63 biturbo is running 800hp and 753 torque limited!!!

is that good for a low 10 sec run on jims lightweight monster???
It doesn't look like his car needs turbos to hit 10s But 800 hp would definitely be NICE
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Absolutely hideous.
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Absolutely hideous.
I actually thought that was pretty sick looking... quad exhaust on that thing and it's Vader's ride.
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