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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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BMW"s new powerplant in X5/X6 M

BMW now has M engine in X5 & X6 all wheel drive SUV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVuh...layer_embedded
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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X6-M should be nice.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Finally they pulled their heads out of their asses and made a competitor for the ML AMG.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Finally they pulled their heads out of their asses and made a competitor for the ML AMG.
BMW had one since 2001. The iS models. 4.6iS was/is far superior in all areas to the ML55. Update to 4.8iS didn't change much. Now, I'll agree it's high time the CayenneTT and ML63 had a c.500bhp rival..
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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I do like the idea of a TTv8 X6M..
but why not just get the base v8TT and chip it..

A SAV is simply just that.. an SAV.. no need to get stiffer suspension on other M gadgets (M drive, M diff)

If you plan to carry family around.. the base TTv8 with a chip will be more than enough..

however.. if the same motor arrives on the M6 and M5.. then its a whole different ball game.

But I would not rule out getting a base 5 TTv8 with a sport package.. the same would apply for a base E550 (if and only the Twin turbos added)
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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To be honest, I want M to continue to stand alone with NA engines. The S54 and S85 are masterpieces. I agree with TG that just make a regular X5/X6 (X6 is an abomination) with the new BMW turbo V8 which iirc is 410bhp. Call it the iS, no need to drag the the M brand into the muddy waters of 5000lb+ SUVs.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Does anyone know the specs on this car? Does it use the same engine that the TTV8 the X6 already has?

I agree with wanting M cars to be NA engines, personally I love the current BMW lineup (especially when the 5 series gets the TTV8... anyone know when?), where they have twin turbo I6 and twin turbo V8's for their normal cars, and very high revving NA engines for their M cars. The M cars appear to have a lack of torque on paper, but personally, whenever I drive one, the high revving nature and acceleration make me never think once about any "lack of torque"
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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I don't know what is uglier to me, the X6 or CTS-V. Can't get beyond looks before getting excited on the engine. I did read today the 2010 7 series gets a TT and bumps output to 400hp and 465lbs tq, not bad.
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
BMW now has M engine in X5 & X6 all wheel drive SUV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVuh...layer_embedded
Nice find!

Are you gonna pick one up...
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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It sounds like a sewing machine. No way that thing produces 500+HP. Plus, it is uglier than sin. I'll stick with my Jeep.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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yea they v8 with twins is going to move. interstingly enough they placed the twins inside the V



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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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I'm surprised the plastic cover doesn't melt.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Nice find!

Are you gonna pick one up...
Nope. Not liking the styling.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I do like the idea of a TTv8 X6M..
but why not just get the base v8TT and chip it..

A SAV is simply just that.. an SAV.. no need to get stiffer suspension on other M gadgets (M drive, M diff)

If you plan to carry family around.. the base TTv8 with a chip will be more than enough..

however.. if the same motor arrives on the M6 and M5.. then its a whole different ball game.

But I would not rule out getting a base 5 TTv8 with a sport package.. the same would apply for a base E550 (if and only the Twin turbos added)
We need to wait and see the specs.

A lot of people said you could chip a 996 turbo and get 996 X50 performance. However, the 996 X50 could also be chipped and tuned to a far higher level.

The M is also about the chassis and balance, which you can't replicate with a chip.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:58 AM
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x6 M is going to look awesome I'm sure , even the X5 m is going to look hot , however the 09 ml's are wayyyy too hot to compete IDK but they're going to drive unbealivable I'm sure
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by liquiddi
It sounds like a sewing machine. No way that thing produces 500+HP. Plus, it is uglier than sin. I'll stick with my Jeep.
Haha, keep your Jeep. Ugly as sin is when comparing the interior of the Jeep to the BMW. That is something everyone can agree on. This thing will be lightyears ahead of the Jeep.

Don't judge an exhaust note based on a pre-production model.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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well at least the turbos are easily accessible when they go ;p

seriously though, M is not for SUVs, 4.8isTT would have been better
not only did new X5 gain about 600lbs over previous model, but now gets M badge? pffft riiiiight an M.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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The X6 is quite ugly. I saw this back a while ago, and most that saw it said PASS.

Performance wise, you I am sure it will go but the looks to me...no. JMO.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sticky2
The M is also about the chassis and balance, which you can't replicate with a chip.
I'm not sure I read the sub right, but I thought the guy said they're using the original chassis from the base model and they haven't done any improvements to it .. he did speak of a RW-bias though


never liked the X6, don't know what they're for, plus too ugly even for a bimmer ... but this one would make more sense.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Haha, keep your Jeep. Ugly as sin is when comparing the interior of the Jeep to the BMW. That is something everyone can agree on. This thing will be lightyears ahead of the Jeep.

Don't judge an exhaust note based on a pre-production model.
Little bitter that my Jeep will smoke your overpriced Porsche? lol
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Little bitter that my Jeep will smoke your overpriced Porsche? lol
Correction, it's really an overpriced VW with Porsche emblems.
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Definitely an interesting design.

Turbo swap will be a breeze
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Definitely an interesting design.

Turbo swap will be a breeze
I see the gears turning already. If they make this the new ///M engine WATCHOUT.
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Originally Posted by liquiddi
Little bitter that my Jeep will smoke your overpriced Porsche? lol
Who cares? I would rather have the Posrche. I don't spend my time racing my SUV when I drive it. However, when I am behind the wheel, I would rather be in the Porsche cabin than the Jeep. I would also rather pull up ANYWHERE in a Porsche than a JEEP.

The X6 M will smoke your Jeep, straightline, on the track, whatever, if you want to play that game.
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I see the gears turning already. If they make this the new ///M engine WATCHOUT.
Anything with twins from the factory can be made into a monster with just tuning however placement in the V seems like it would ultimately limit potential turbo size. Also not sure that's the best place to locate things that get that hot...

Let's just hope MB/AMG brings out the DI 5.5/4v with twins. God help us if they TT the 6.2 like they were supposed to before all the BS hit.
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