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Old 01-13-2009, 07:11 PM
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E55 (Stg.1?) Vs CLK63 Black Series

I was coming home from a short day at the office this Sunday and I happen to get a glimpse of a wide body CLK. The car caught my eye as I used to have a CLK55 and noticed that this one had serious work done to it, until I realized that it was the Black Series. After spotting it I noticed that the guy was driving it fairly aggressive, so I figured this is an opportunity I can’t pass up and started to creep up behind him.

While the traffic was somewhat moderate, we did a few runs with one of us behind the other. I noticed that as I accelerated from 60+ when no cars were in front of me, it took him quite sometime to catch up. I also noticed that I usually was able to close the distance with ease while behind him (while still keeping a safe distance).

As my luck would have it, he took the same exit I needed. This smaller stretch of the freeway was less busy so we were able to step our game up to 3 digit speeds. I was in front of him and once accelerated at 70 or so I noticed that he was just not keeping up. The next time he was in front of me (not by choice, but due to the traffic) and once he gunned it I was on his tail from 80+ to well into 130s closing the distance. Once he saw me creep up from behind he immediately slowed down.

He tried a few things here and there, but by then the road got busier and with the trucks around it started to get a bit dangerous. I have my new Zimmerman rotors and ceramic Akebono pads to thank for saving my behind after a truck appeared out of no where!

Anyhow, I guess the moral of the story is that I heard the talk about the E63 being able to walk on E55 at high speeds, even the modded 55s and it does not hold water from my experience. This was a lighter CLK63, and a Black Series to boot, and I was still able to pull on him and pull away from him fairly easy at 3 digit speeds. I do have to say that his exhaust sounded very nice as his engine hit the upper revs.

I currently only have an ASP pulley, Evo tuneo, and K&N filters.

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Old 01-13-2009, 07:19 PM
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great story!!!!!!
let's see what JRCART has got to say about this! lol lol
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
Anyhow, I guess the moral of the story is that I heard the talk about the E63 being able to walk on E55 at high speeds, even the modded 55s and it does not hold water from my experience. This was a lighter CLK63, and a Black Series to boot, and I was still able to pull on him and pull away from him fairly easy at 3 digit speeds.
CLK BS is actually very close in weight to the E. Seems dumb. Only 150-200lbs difference iirc
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You probably got 50 hp on him with your mods. The weight as mentioned above is negligible at speed.

E55's dont really have 469hp as the factory said remember!!!!

Nice runs!!
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No surprise - as Vic stated your's is modded, his was clearly not. Everyone knows the E55 is great for straight line speed...throw some turns in there and the results would have been much different.
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Oh I agree with you. Its just that some members here are stating that 63s hang with stock and modded 55s at high speeds, and that is simply not the case from this scenario.

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You probably got 50 hp on him with your mods. The weight as mentioned above is negligible at speed.

E55's dont really have 469hp as the factory said remember!!!!

Nice runs!!
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I agree. I feel sometimes that my car is going to lose it completely on turns. That is why for turns I am saving up for a 996TT

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No surprise - as Vic stated your's is modded, his was clearly not. Everyone knows the E55 is great for straight line speed...throw some turns in there and the results would have been much different.
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
I agree. I feel sometimes that my car is going to lose it completely on turns. That is why for turns I am saving up for a 996TT
There ya go, lotta value in a clean TT these days. Also remember the unknown in this scenario....you really don't know for sure how hard the other guy was pushing it...
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Nice runs....have you ever dynoed your car?
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
I agree. I feel sometimes that my car is going to lose it completely on turns. That is why for turns I am saving up for a 996TT
What a lot of us were saying was that the E63 pulled "slightly" on the E55 at higher speeds when both were in stock form. This is what we experienced here in California at different drag strips with different E55s, E63, different drivers, etc... We've also posted the data and timeslips. The E55 would take the jump and pull ahead first, then the role is reversed. Once you mod the E55, especially with a pulley (one of the biggest on the market) and a tune, then the E55 is immediately in the 11s and pulls very hard across the power band. I've done some high speed runs with a stock E55 and a modded M6..... I was slightly ahead of the E55 and slightly behind the modded M6 going into the 140s

Anyways, nice kill, your E55 will only get stronger as you go into stage 2 and 3.... The products and mods for the 55k platform keep on coming in at full speed
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Yes, when it was stock:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...base-dyno.html

Might dyno it again... but I had the mods for over a year now so I kinda lost the drive to do it over time.

Originally Posted by MPRESIV
Nice runs....have you ever dynoed your car?
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the E55 AMG is just a BEAST
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great story!!!!!!
let's see what JRCART has got to say about this! lol lol
I talked w/Jim on Fri he was in Vegas ALL wknd & planned to hit OC early tue-wed I believe, mighta been him Doubt it though his CLK is Faaasssstt

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Yes, when it was stock:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...base-dyno.html

Might dyno it again... but I had the mods for over a year now so I kinda lost the drive to do it over time.
Healthy beast!

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Yeah thanks ... that's the same car you insisted that I didn't have. Or have you forgotten?

Here, I'll remind you:

https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg...r-fenders.html

I'm not trying to start anything here because I know you just wont shut up until you have the last word... I'd just thought I'd remind you. Now leave my post alone.

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Old 01-14-2009, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
Yeah thanks ... that's the same car you insisted that I didn't have. Or have you forgotten?

Here, I'll remind you:

https://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg...r-fenders.html

I'm not trying to start anything here because I know you just wont shut up until you have the last word... I'd just thought I'd remind you. Now leave my post alone.
Are you kidding me? I know who you are Talk about holding a lame grudge Peace out....

Ohhhh sweet Jesus!! that was a great thread!!! thanks for the linkage Boooyy

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I raced jrcart in his modded bs when i only had a pulley and tune, off the line, e55 is faster because of jrcart's huge power spinning the wheels, but after 80 he walked by...

here is the thread with a vid

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ck-series.html
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
I raced jrcart in his modded bs when i only had a pulley and tune, off the line, e55 is faster because of jrcart's huge power spinning the wheels, but after 80 he walked by...

here is the thread with a vid

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ck-series.html
I remember that....Nice
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No grudges, it is just one of many opportunities many of us have to show others what a piece of work you are. You have disgraced yourself many times over in other threads as well, but those weren’t in my court so I never bothered responding. It seems almost seems as if you’re proud of it. Keep it up then I guess.

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Are you kidding me? I know who you are Talk about holding a lame grudge Peace out....

Ohhhh sweet Jesus!! that was a great thread!!! thanks for the linkage Boooyy
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The price is good on them these days, unless things change I'd like to pick one up for track events. I believe there are ways to hook those things up to a laptop and have a readout on exactly how it was treated. Over revs and things of that nature. Ideally I'll run into a garage queen that is being unloaded.

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There ya go, lotta value in a clean TT these days. Also remember the unknown in this scenario....you really don't know for sure how hard the other guy was pushing it...
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The one I played with was black.

Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
I raced jrcart in his modded bs when i only had a pulley and tune, off the line, e55 is faster because of jrcart's huge power spinning the wheels, but after 80 he walked by...

here is the thread with a vid

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ck-series.html
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Originally Posted by DirtyVegasMB
No grudges, it is just one of many opportunities many of us have to show others what a piece of work you are. You have disgraced yourself many times over in other threads as well, but those weren’t in my court so I never bothered responding. It seems almost seems as if you’re proud of it. Keep it up then I guess.
I think you need to re-read that old link buddy, you were the 1 talking down to multiple members about not being able to afford Lorinser fenders You need to look @ yourself when making these types of posts...

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plenty of 55 vs 63 matchups Saturday @ Famoso,

I believe your E55 would have done exactly the same thing to a stock E55. A pullied 55 has a big advantage , especially your car which seems to be quite healthy
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He said this, no he said that, drop the pissing contest and move on.

BTW: Great story on the BS vs. 55k

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Here is a you tube video i found of an e55 vs a clk black and the e55 wins take a look

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0r86mxapKaI
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Here is a you tube video i found of an e55 vs a clk black and the e55 wins take a look

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0r86mxapKaI
Theres an entire thread aboutthat video LOL

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ck-series.html


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