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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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So I got called out by a K3 E55...

Well they are pretty much my friends and they recently bought the E55 of one of the Board members here. His car is a K3, has a kleeman tune, along with TB, headers, pulley, Heat Exchanger and a full CPT exhaust with eisenmann and HRE's C21. The car is a beast.

It recently was dyno'ed and put out 558RWHP...some how it is hard to believe since it does not have cams and prolly first generation pulley.

So the other night they were heading to mexico and gave me a ring to see if I wanted to join the Beach party. , unfortunately I couldn't join because I did not have rear brakes and car was getting serviced the following day. Now my car is ready to rumble so was thinking of maybe meeting them this weekend for some fun runs. I know my car is a fat pig, but it has a boat load of torque. If I run him I will either do it from a roll and also try a stand. Either way will let you know of the outcome.

My car is not modded. All it has is a 5 gallon water reservoir in the trunk but it does wonders.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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If his car is dyno'ing 558WHP, only two words can describe the out come for you: EPIC FAIL
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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it shoudl you give you a good run on the 1/4. but from a 60 roll its all u...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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If his car is dyno'ing 558WHP, only two words can describe the out come for you: EPIC FAIL
I wouldn't count it a fail yet....dyno's don't mean jack..it's all a controlled environment, blah, blah, blah...lol! Wait let me take that back...they mean somehting but in this case a dyno could be manipulated to put out a desired number...just tough to believe I guess...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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From a dig he will take you--- do a 30-160 roll...

I dont see an epic fail but I see the Bison breaking a sweat that could cause him to falter.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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From a dig he will take you--- do a 30-160 roll...

I dont see an epic fail but I see the Bison breaking a sweat that could cause him to falter.
LOL...I think so. Have you seen an E55 with similar Mods with that kind of power output? Most I have seen with that set up is 525~530 Whp....we will go to the video tape.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
LOL...I think so. Have you seen an E55 with similar Mods with that kind of power output? Most I have seen with that set up is 525~530 Whp....we will go to the video tape.
My old E55 (when it was a little slower circa 500 rwhp) ran a modded CL 65 (560 rwhp) from a dig and he was 2 cars up at 160. From the dig he was even more ahead and the CL started to reel him in. From a roll at 30-160 the CL would take him by a few lengths.

So these are my experiences with an "on paper" slower E55 and faster CL65 versus what you will encounter. Id be pushing for the roll and some budda...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
LOL...I think so. Have you seen an E55 with similar Mods with that kind of power output? Most I have seen with that set up is 525~530 Whp....we will go to the video tape.
when are you getting a tune?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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when are you getting a tune?
Soon very soon, but would like to run him as is for comparisons. As soon as VRP gets their package out should have it.
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My old E55 (when it was a little slower circa 500 rwhp) ran a modded CL 65 (560 rwhp) from a dig and he was 2 cars up at 160. From the dig he was even more ahead and the CL started to reel him in. From a roll at 30-160 the CL would take him by a few lengths.

So these are my experiences with an "on paper" slower E55 and faster CL65 versus what you will encounter. Id be pushing for the roll and some budda...
Yeah I saw that video...Bluemonster vs your CL....the E's have so much instant power it's hard to play catch up. We will see...
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Originally Posted by Vic55
From a dig he will take you--- do a 30-160 roll...

I dont see an epic fail but I see the Bison breaking a sweat that could cause him to falter.
I just don't see a stock CL65 pulling a 560WHP E55... I remember my E55 and that thing was near-stock, I can only imagine the hell a K3 E55 would unleash; but hey if you say he has a chance...

V12Godspeed, in all seriousness, remove your air filters and juice up on 100 Octane before the race. Removing your exhaust wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust and air filters alone should go you plenty good for this race and if VIc says you have a chance stock, I'm pretty sure with what I've mentioned you just might take the BEAST.

I remember your E55 Vic... no pushover...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Akademiks
I just don't see a stock CL65 pulling a 560WHP E55... I remember my E55 and that thing was near-stock, I can only imagine the hell a K3 E55 would unleash; but hey if you say he has a chance...

V12Godspeed, in all seriousness, remove your air filters and juice up on 100 Octane before the race. Removing your exhaust wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust and air filters alone should go you plenty good for this race and if VIc says you have a chance stock, I'm pretty sure with what I've mentioned you just might take the BEAST.

I remember your E55 Vic... no pushover...
Will do, thanks! I will try to record and show the outcome either way.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Akademiks
I just don't see a stock CL65 pulling a 560WHP E55... I remember my E55 and that thing was near-stock, I can only imagine the hell a K3 E55 would unleash; but hey if you say he has a chance...

V12Godspeed, in all seriousness, remove your air filters and juice up on 100 Octane before the race. Removing your exhaust wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust and air filters alone should go you plenty good for this race and if VIc says you have a chance stock, I'm pretty sure with what I've mentioned you just might take the BEAST.

I remember your E55 Vic... no pushover...
Oh Jody will lose (CL65) I just dont think it will be epic--- it will be car lengths though. Now just remember one thing- peak hp is exactly that, at the peak and who knows where the E55 was dyno'd or the conditions. Im not saying its not true but 558 rwhp is not a stage III car or at least one that I have seen. 558 rwhp is usually associated with stage V and beyond monsters. But if the power curve of that E55 is light, watch the 65 make a move. This is all speculation- so just race already!!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Oh Jody will lose (CL65) I just dont think it will be epic--- it will be car lengths though. Now just remember one thing- peak hp is exactly that, at the peak and who knows where the E55 was dyno'd or the conditions. Im not saying its not true but 558 rwhp is not a stage III car or at least one that I have seen. 558 rwhp is usually associated with stage V and beyond monsters. But if the power curve of that E55 is light, watch the 65 make a move. This is all speculation- so just race already!!!!
That is exactly my point...For you to have 558 RWHP you must have a 180mm pulley or larger, cams, massive cooling, etc...hell I've seen some of VRP's top cars and most don't come close to this...even with the massive stage 2 cam that victor brought out. Unless I may be missing something...this only leads me to speculate that dyno is not accurate, conditions must have been ideal for that to happen.

But we will only know after the race,... there is nothing I am looking more forward to doing than to put this to the test.
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Jody your car goes 11.50s all day.... which should be rather similar to that e55. street is not the track so .....you never know. go from a 50 roll
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Please for the love of god, get this on a CAM.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Wow! 550 rwhp is a fricken monster. I didn't realize K3's ran these numbers without a cam. My car is somewhere in the high 400's and my 1/4 mile times with VR600 on street tires is 11.5's @ 124. I could only imagine what a 550 rwhp car would do...if it got traction. Either way it should be a blast and be safe...
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Jody your car goes 11.50s all day.... which should be rather similar to that e55. street is not the track so .....you never know. go from a 50 roll
I know..lol! I didn't run her on cool weather like now. Hopefully a bit faster I hope..thx.
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
I know..lol! I didn't run her on cool weather like now. Hopefully a bit faster I hope..thx.
Fill up with 100 octane (if you can find some) and reset your ECU & TCU.
it should be all you need to by the E.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
It recently was dyno'ed and put out 558RWHP...some how it is hard to believe since it does not have cams and prolly first generation pulley.
Are these #'s from Kleeman's dyno?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Akademiks

V12Godspeed, in all seriousness, remove your air filters and juice up on 100 Octane before the race. Removing your exhaust wouldn't hurt either. The exhaust and air filters alone should go you plenty good for this race and if VIc says you have a chance stock, I'm pretty sure with what I've mentioned you just might take the BEAST.
Exactly.. It's nice to see fellow enthusiasts thinking alike.

BTW get this on video.
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Ohh trust me I have all the mentioned above:

Camera- check
100 Octane- Check
Air filter removal- check
Reset ECU/TCU- check

I will have to bring my brother to record though...even more weight- check...
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Ohh trust me I have all the mentioned above:

Camera- check
100 Octane- Check
Air filter removal- check
Reset ECU/TCU- check

I will have to bring my brother to record though...even more weight- check...
Bah, the extra weight will kill you.

Hold the Camera with one hand or just get someone to record it.
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Ohh trust me I have all the mentioned above:

Camera- check
100 Octane- Check
Air filter removal- check
Reset ECU/TCU- check

I will have to bring my brother to record though...even more weight- check...
Yo bro when is this going down? I have a HDV Sony Pro HD movie camera that I am using for the TT C6 build we are starting this week. You gotta check this thing out!

Tell me or Oxygen when you"re rolling and we'll roll some film SON!
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